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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.10.02 04:20:00 -
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Look what is happening...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIzeTIgs9h0
I cant believe i am playing Battlefront over Dust / Nova
This downtime really really blows cold wind in all the wrong places.
If i gotta play Battlefront another month i just might cry.
Any updates at all? Devs?
Why are you leaving us all in the dark?
Thx...
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.10.02 04:30:00 -
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I actually kind of wish I had bought that game, the combat was pretty tight even in the beta.
Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire.
AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.02 07:50:00 -
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Screw that noise, Battlefront is life. Greedo is sexy AF boi
Dust 514 is built like Legos, but Battlefront is some KNEX.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.10.02 21:44:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Screw that noise, Battlefront is life. Greedo is sexy AF boi
Dust 514 is built like Legos, but Battlefront is some KNEX.
Battlefront blows chunks compared to dust, it has NOOOOOO in depth anything.
Dust was the king.
Example i am max everything battlefront only played umm what 6 months.
Dust 514 i had over 120 mil SP and still did not have everything unlocked over 2 years on just 1 character never mind my ALTS.
Huge difference. Battlefront just dont even remotely compare to how good dust 514 was.
I am bored of Battlefront there is nothing left to do but slay noobs. Nothing to unlock nothing to draw me into playing the game as a player.
Dust 514 had all of that plus way more!
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.03 01:31:00 -
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jett it wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Screw that noise, Battlefront is life. Greedo is sexy AF boi
Dust 514 is built like Legos, but Battlefront is some KNEX. Battlefront blows chunks compared to dust, it has NOOOOOO in depth anything. Dust was the king. Example i am max everything battlefront only played umm what 6 months. Dust 514 i had over 120 mil SP and still did not have everything unlocked over 2 years on just 1 character never mind my ALTS. Huge difference. Battlefront just dont even remotely compare to how good dust 514 was. I am bored of Battlefront there is nothing left to do but slay noobs. Nothing to unlock nothing to draw me into playing the game as a player. Dust 514 had all of that plus way more! Dust 514's gameplay mechanics sucked worse than an offbrand portable vacuum. The balance was fundamentally broken in every manner possible. Gameplay was strapped together with more bandages than an Amarr ship stolen by Brutor pirates.
Dust 514 pulled no chicks and it felt like every gunfight was won or lost based on BS. It was way easier to stomp in Dust 514, I'm talking built like Timberlands. Star Wars Battlefront has DLC content, but it's not necessarily better than the standard equipment- just different. Because sometimes Coca Cola don't top it. Let's go sin with a Pepsi: we failed the D.A.R.E. program because we ain't saints. Sorry Nancy, but "just say[ing] no" is for suckers.
Battlefront has a better connection, better graphics, better shooting mechanics, much better maps and better game modes. The Austria to your Germany. Adolf sucked.
I don't really care about progression. That thing makes balanced gunfights basically impossible. Though just a hint of it allows the game to last a bit longer since you don't use everything at once.
Battlefront gives me very difficult matches and very easy matches, but most matches were fairly balanced and tend to come down to the milliseconds. On Dust 514 it felt like every single match was always either impossible to lose or impossible to ever win. I was either stomping or getting stomped.
Progression means way less than mechanics. Dust lacked on the latter severely and that's why it never got its wings off the ground. Like Nikola Tesla's career. And why the hell is Britney Spears still around, but not Prince? Screw genetic degradation, some jive turkey.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.10.03 02:03:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:jett it wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Screw that noise, Battlefront is life. Greedo is sexy AF boi
Dust 514 is built like Legos, but Battlefront is some KNEX. Battlefront blows chunks compared to dust, it has NOOOOOO in depth anything. Dust was the king. Example i am max everything battlefront only played umm what 6 months. Dust 514 i had over 120 mil SP and still did not have everything unlocked over 2 years on just 1 character never mind my ALTS. Huge difference. Battlefront just dont even remotely compare to how good dust 514 was. I am bored of Battlefront there is nothing left to do but slay noobs. Nothing to unlock nothing to draw me into playing the game as a player. Dust 514 had all of that plus way more! Dust 514's gameplay mechanics sucked worse than an offbrand portable vacuum. The balance was fundamentally broken in every manner possible. Gameplay was strapped together with more bandages than an Amarr ship stolen by Brutor pirates. Dust 514 pulled no chicks and it felt like every gunfight was won or lost based on BS. It was way easier to stomp in Dust 514, I'm talking built like Timberlands. Star Wars Battlefront has DLC content, but it's not necessarily better than the standard equipment- just different. Because sometimes Coca Cola don't top it. Let's go sin with a Pepsi: we failed the D.A.R.E. program because we ain't saints. Sorry Nancy, but "just say[ing] no" is for suckers. Battlefront has a better connection, better graphics, better shooting mechanics, much better maps and better game modes. The Austria to your Germany. Adolf sucked. I don't really care about progression. That thing makes balanced gunfights basically impossible. Though just a hint of it allows the game to last a bit longer since you don't use everything at once. Battlefront gives me very difficult matches and very easy matches, but most matches were fairly balanced and tend to come down to the milliseconds. On Dust 514 it felt like every single match was always either impossible to lose or impossible to ever win. I was either stomping or getting stomped. Progression means way less than mechanics. Dust lacked on the latter severely and that's why it never got its wings off the ground. Like Nikola Tesla's career. And why the hell is Britney Spears still around, but not Prince? Screw genetic degradation, some jive turkey.
You see thats where you and many other players are wrong dust had it all even great mechanics, they had progression they had awesome maps often bringing in new ones taking out old ones.
The only problem they had was hardware/software and compatibility issues with PSN and the ps3 in general. Made for what we all thought was just a bad game but in reality the ps3 was simply not capable of what dust was meant to be.
For that reason alone yes dust was a far superior game and beat battlefront on every aspect EVEN though it was not even on the new and improved ps4 like battlefront is.
If nova comes out its gonna be dope to see CCP perform with their native languge (pc).
Also those compatibility issues will be taken care of which tie in with the bad mechanics you spoke of.
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.03 03:34:00 -
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jett it wrote:
You see thats where you and many other players are wrong dust had it all even great mechanics, they had progression they had awesome maps often bringing in new ones taking out old ones.
The only problem they had was hardware/software and compatibility issues with PSN and the ps3 in general. Made for what we all thought was just a bad game but in reality the ps3 was simply not capable of what dust was meant to be.
For that reason alone yes dust was a far superior game and beat battlefront on every aspect EVEN though it was not even on the new and improved ps4 like battlefront is.
If nova comes out its gonna be dope to see CCP perform with their native languge (pc).
Also those compatibility issues will be taken care of which tie in with the bad mechanics you spoke of.
I don't know what this has to do with the Cola Wars or the price of machetes in Rwanda, but all I'll say is that the balance was terrible. Anytime it got close to good (first week of Uprising) someone arbitrarily screwed it up. And that's not Metallica because Kid Rock is terrible.
I guess we both have different opinions on what constitutes good gameplay. And that's fine because they shot East Asians out of trees on Okinawa so we could have the right to play Mario and Sonic. The U.N. Blue helmets suck. Bespin Guards did it first.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
673
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Posted - 2016.10.03 04:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:jett it wrote:
You see thats where you and many other players are wrong dust had it all even great mechanics, they had progression they had awesome maps often bringing in new ones taking out old ones.
The only problem they had was hardware/software and compatibility issues with PSN and the ps3 in general. Made for what we all thought was just a bad game but in reality the ps3 was simply not capable of what dust was meant to be.
For that reason alone yes dust was a far superior game and beat battlefront on every aspect EVEN though it was not even on the new and improved ps4 like battlefront is.
If nova comes out its gonna be dope to see CCP perform with their native languge (pc).
Also those compatibility issues will be taken care of which tie in with the bad mechanics you spoke of.
I don't know what this has to do with the Cola Wars or the price of machetes in Rwanda, but all I'll say is that the balance was terrible. Anytime it got close to good (first week of Uprising) someone arbitrarily screwed it up. And that's not Metallica because Kid Rock is terrible. I guess we both have different opinions on what constitutes good gameplay. And that's fine because they shot East Asians out of trees on Okinawa so we could have the right to play Mario and Sonic. The U.N. Blue helmets suck. Bespin Guards did it first.
Actually bespin and death star have kept me playing lately so i wont talk bad about battlefront as much lol.
I agree with some of your points, just giving ya a hard time.
I only wish i got to see Dust 514 on the PS4. It might have had issues but damn i woulda payed for it thats how bad i wanted it on the ps4.
But PC is another story and knowing CCP is already deep into PC stuff with eve i am thinking the idea to change platforms was for the best.
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10539
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Posted - 2016.10.03 05:33:00 -
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The Age of Fire was long gone. We are now in the Age of Dark.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.03 06:36:00 -
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jett it wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:jett it wrote:
You see thats where you and many other players are wrong dust had it all even great mechanics, they had progression they had awesome maps often bringing in new ones taking out old ones.
The only problem they had was hardware/software and compatibility issues with PSN and the ps3 in general. Made for what we all thought was just a bad game but in reality the ps3 was simply not capable of what dust was meant to be.
For that reason alone yes dust was a far superior game and beat battlefront on every aspect EVEN though it was not even on the new and improved ps4 like battlefront is.
If nova comes out its gonna be dope to see CCP perform with their native languge (pc).
Also those compatibility issues will be taken care of which tie in with the bad mechanics you spoke of.
I don't know what this has to do with the Cola Wars or the price of machetes in Rwanda, but all I'll say is that the balance was terrible. Anytime it got close to good (first week of Uprising) someone arbitrarily screwed it up. And that's not Metallica because Kid Rock is terrible. I guess we both have different opinions on what constitutes good gameplay. And that's fine because they shot East Asians out of trees on Okinawa so we could have the right to play Mario and Sonic. The U.N. Blue helmets suck. Bespin Guards did it first. Actually bespin and death star have kept me playing lately so i wont talk bad about battlefront as much lol. I agree with some of your points, just giving ya a hard time. I only wish i got to see Dust 514 on the PS4. It might have had issues but damn i woulda payed for it thats how bad i wanted it on the ps4. But PC is another story and knowing CCP is already deep into PC stuff with eve i am thinking the idea to change platforms was for the best. The graphics in battlefront are some of the most sexy graphics i have seen in any game. But whats not to say dust 514 couldn't of had better graphics if they ported to ps4? I would have been awwed most likely. Yeah, graphics don't make a game and neither do aesthetics, but I think everyone is confusing what Dust 514 was versus what it promised to be. Any game can promise to be something, but it actually has to achieve it before it can claim it. Poland isn't Germany until 1949, so take that Pavlov. I'll inject Kinetic Catalyzers when I want!
Right now everyone is waiting on the successor of Dust. Everything is just talk so far. No one's doing anything. Gridlock is crap, we have to do away with the two party system; for the children! Unless you're one of those post-modernists. In which case, Warhol was your only claim to fame. Take those chicken noodle flavored dice and cook em. Can't stand the heat, then go build a bridge. The War in Iraq is crap. Darth Vader is daddy.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2016.10.03 16:40:00 -
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I've become a degenerate. Playing Madden Franchise mode just to get a taste of actual skill progression. Eve failed in that department because everything takes time. You can pile up as much ISK as you want but true earned SP does not exist in that IP. Other shooters paled in comparison to Dust 514. Dust 514 actually rewarded you for YOUR accomplishments and that is what we want. We took the beatings of our predecessors and grew to hunger for more through our ordeals. Nothing will make us as salty as Dust514. Or feel as rewarded.
Dustkillz and chill
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.10.03 20:09:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:jett it wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:jett it wrote:
You see thats where you and many other players are wrong dust had it all even great mechanics, they had progression they had awesome maps often bringing in new ones taking out old ones.
The only problem they had was hardware/software and compatibility issues with PSN and the ps3 in general. Made for what we all thought was just a bad game but in reality the ps3 was simply not capable of what dust was meant to be.
For that reason alone yes dust was a far superior game and beat battlefront on every aspect EVEN though it was not even on the new and improved ps4 like battlefront is.
If nova comes out its gonna be dope to see CCP perform with their native languge (pc).
Also those compatibility issues will be taken care of which tie in with the bad mechanics you spoke of.
I don't know what this has to do with the Cola Wars or the price of machetes in Rwanda, but all I'll say is that the balance was terrible. Anytime it got close to good (first week of Uprising) someone arbitrarily screwed it up. And that's not Metallica because Kid Rock is terrible. I guess we both have different opinions on what constitutes good gameplay. And that's fine because they shot East Asians out of trees on Okinawa so we could have the right to play Mario and Sonic. The U.N. Blue helmets suck. Bespin Guards did it first. Actually bespin and death star have kept me playing lately so i wont talk bad about battlefront as much lol. I agree with some of your points, just giving ya a hard time. I only wish i got to see Dust 514 on the PS4. It might have had issues but damn i woulda payed for it thats how bad i wanted it on the ps4. But PC is another story and knowing CCP is already deep into PC stuff with eve i am thinking the idea to change platforms was for the best. The graphics in battlefront are some of the most sexy graphics i have seen in any game. But whats not to say dust 514 couldn't of had better graphics if they ported to ps4? I would have been awwed most likely. Yeah, graphics don't make a game and neither do aesthetics, but I think everyone is confusing what Dust 514 was versus what it promised to be. Any game can promise to be something, but it actually has to achieve it before it can claim it. Poland isn't Germany until 1949, so take that Pavlov. I'll inject Kinetic Catalyzers when I want! Right now everyone is waiting on the successor of Dust. Everything is just talk so far. No one's doing anything. Gridlock is crap, we have to do away with the two party system; for the children! Unless you're one of those post-modernists. In which case, Warhol was your only claim to fame. Take those chicken noodle flavored dice and cook em. Can't stand the heat, then go build a bridge. The War in Iraq is crap. Darth Vader is daddy.
LOL the more i read your posts the more i keep laughing, the examples you are stating really make me laugh :) thx.
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
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Posted - 2016.10.03 20:10:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:I've become a degenerate. Playing Madden Franchise mode just to get a taste of actual skill progression. Eve failed in that department because everything takes time. You can pile up as much ISK as you want but true earned SP does not exist in that IP. Other shooters paled in comparison to Dust 514. Dust 514 actually rewarded you for YOUR accomplishments and that is what we want. We took the beatings of our predecessors and grew to hunger for more through our ordeals. Nothing will make us as salty as Dust514. Or feel as rewarded.
Well said.
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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xavier zor
Heiroglyphic
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Posted - 2016.10.03 20:22:00 -
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Meanwhile I'm going insane as well withdrawing to lobby shooters such as Call of Duty which is actually pretty fun when everyone has access to the same guns and stuff. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.10.03 21:44:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:I've become a degenerate. Playing Madden Franchise mode just to get a taste of actual skill progression. Eve failed in that department because everything takes time. You can pile up as much ISK as you want but true earned SP does not exist in that IP. Other shooters paled in comparison to Dust 514. Dust 514 actually rewarded you for YOUR accomplishments and that is what we want. We took the beatings of our predecessors and grew to hunger for more through our ordeals. Nothing will make us as salty as Dust514. Or feel as rewarded. That's an interesting discussion point, and I know it's come up before.
Many have talked about the pros and cons of time-based skill learning vs. experiential advancement. In EvE, the concept is that ALL learning is done through a sort of direct neural injection of skills which takes time dependent on your own personal receptivity to the attributes of that form of training, being memory, intelligence, willpower or perception, all of which can be changed periodically to allow faster learning of certain types of skills.
What has always been lacking in EvE is the concept that the more you do something the faster you learn it - experience based learning. I guess it worked for EvE where it was tied in with the account management that allowed (usually) only one character at a time to experience skills training. But in Dust it failed to provide the sort of fast track you expect from doing an awful lot of any one thing at a time
I have suggested in the past, for instance, that as well as pure time-based skill training, which is still a reasonable concept even in Dust, that there be an experience-based component which increases the user's skill level with appropriate weapons and devices with familiarisation through use, and conversely deteriorates that skill with lack of use, just like you would expect from any sort of experience-based skill, which tends to be enhanced by habitual use and deteriorates if you don't use it for a while.
So far I haven't heard any sort of positive response to this idea. I guess it's possible it's just too hard for CCP, or perhaps they're too set in their ways with their skill training. It's possible they can't actually implement this feature without a lot of recoding. Either way, it hasn't seen the light of day, but I'm still hopeful... |
DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2016.10.03 21:46:00 -
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LOL KILLZ wrote:I've become a degenerate. Playing Madden Franchise mode just to get a taste of actual skill progression. You said piece of Snickers. Eat yourself because you ain't you when you're hungry.
LOL KILLZ wrote: Eve failed in that department because everything takes time. You can pile up as much ISK as you want but true earned SP does not exist in that IP. Other shooters paled in comparison to Dust 514. Dust 514 actually rewarded you for YOUR accomplishments and that is what we want. We took the beatings of our predecessors and grew to hunger for more through our ordeals. Nothing will make us as salty as Dust514. Or feel as rewarded.
Young Metro don't trust a non-Dust shooter. You are right about the salt. Nothing will ever get me that many electrolytes without the calories. Diet Gatorade should be outlawed. Artificial sugars are bad for your liver; lookin' at you aspartame! And I agree with the bit about reward. This game was my Pavlov. Beating up people on the streets for betting money just isn't the same.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
1177
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Posted - 2016.10.03 23:17:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:I've become a degenerate. Playing Madden Franchise mode just to get a taste of actual skill progression. You said piece of Snickers. Eat yourself because you ain't you when you're hungry. LOL KILLZ wrote: Eve failed in that department because everything takes time. You can pile up as much ISK as you want but true earned SP does not exist in that IP. Other shooters paled in comparison to Dust 514. Dust 514 actually rewarded you for YOUR accomplishments and that is what we want. We took the beatings of our predecessors and grew to hunger for more through our ordeals. Nothing will make us as salty as Dust514. Or feel as rewarded.
Young Metro don't trust a non-Dust shooter. You are right about the salt. Nothing will ever get me that many electrolytes without the calories. Diet Gatorade should be outlawed. Artificial sugars are bad for your liver; lookin' at you aspartame! And I agree with the bit about reward. This game was my Pavlov. Beating up people on the streets for betting money just isn't the same. Those sweet red berry tears
Dustkillz and chill
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