DUST Search - If Nova Becomes an Actual Game

Forever ETC wrote:

jett it wrote:

Alena Asakura wrote:

Petrified Ancient Tree wrote:

lol.... I used a Mouse and Keyboard when playing DUST 514. Never have liked controllers compared to them.

There is no doubt that they'd be more accurate. Once you were used to the digital nature of the movement controls so that didn't detract, the point-and-click use of a mouse for aiming must be better.

I have to strongly disagree even tho i like your prior posts. My reason is simple, lets say jonny spawns on a CRU with a crowd of 5 enemies camping that CRU well with a mouse you gotta point and click each target well with a controller its just open fire spray each and every one of them type thing.

Maybe a mouse for Sniping yes i would agree but poor old jonny was using a mouse point and click with his hmg and was only able to damage one at a time...

As many say it all depends on your playing style vehicles, sniping, CQC or just whatever.

I find the controller works great across all aspects where as mice, keyboards/keypads and joysticks can and often times leave you very vulnerable across different aspects of playing styles.

No.... you'd still be able to it all enemies with a mouse. You just make cicrular motions with your wrist.

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jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 668	Posted - 2016.09.04 20:51:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys n gals, If and when Nova actually becomes a playable game on the PC I recommend the use of this NIFTY software... http://ds4windows.com Get that PS4 Bluetooth Controller maped to your PC. Easy and free, If you have advanced knowledge you can even mess around with the source code of the software to make things better then how you want them. With that being said source code that is not familiar to you should never be touched one wrong input will cause a crash or error if the value is not correct. So i only recommend this to experienced coders such as myself. If you dont know what source code is then dont bother trying to edit it. Just use the base software its still great stuff. Hope it helps a few of you out, Keyboards and joysticks just aint nearly as accurate or consistent as controllers. After all we all hate having to look down at the keyboard, or pressing the wrong damn button because your using your brains key touch ability by memory. Stuff always goes wrong with keyboards. Anyways, look forward to seeing you all within the Project. Once i get a crack on the codes and values of profiles i will show a select few how to become beast mode without ever being tracked AKA Kaizuka Sniper. PS4 would have protected Nova from this, but PC just leaves it wide open just as ps3 did. Enjoy and o7 mercs! http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1754	Posted - 2016.09.04 22:55:00 - [2] - Quote Why not just use mouse and keyboard? No need to disadvantage yourself... AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 5017	Posted - 2016.09.04 23:14:00 - [3] - Quote Or... EVERYONE!!!! download Enjoyable- a free mapper for Mac (different one for Windows) Just connect controller via Bluetooth, usb, and map every button you want. Map any button- letters, mouse movement, scroll, mouse speed etc. you name it. https://yukkurigames.com/enjoyable/ CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1539	Posted - 2016.09.04 23:43:00 - [4] - Quote jett it wrote: After all we all hate having to look down at the keyboard, or pressing the wrong damn button because your using your brains key touch ability by memory. Stuff always goes wrong with keyboards. I'm not a huge fan of mouse and keyboard... But the problem you mention here is not down to the input device... Also I've seen people have the same issue with gamepads. If I'm feeling nice I'd say more practice is needed with the input device. But I'm not so I just say too stupid.
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 265	Posted - 2016.09.04 23:45:00 - [5] - Quote . If you're going to use a gamepad/joystick , i suggest you don't use a ps4 controller. Best option would be Xbox1 ( already p.c compatible & responsive to all p.c mappings ) , Logitech F310 ( feels like ps3 six axis analog sticks , bad part : have to re configure every time you restart the computer up ) .... or if you balling ( keyboard/mouse ) logitech G13 ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1170	Posted - 2016.09.05 00:08:00 - [6] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Why not just use mouse and keyboard? No need to disadvantage yourself... People who like kbm will never understand why people who like controllers don't like kbm and vice versa. I think it's to do with the way their minds work or something. I myself can see how kbm is the best for use with games like EvE Online that are somewhat abstracted by the presence of a computer interface interpreting everything for you and performing all the flight controls as if you had a crew and all you were doing was issuing orders. But put me in the position of actually controlling something, as in direct input, and I will go for a controller every time. The analog sensitivity with a controller is just superior. The only thing kbm has over a controller is that the mouse is much more accurate for aiming. If there was some facility to aim using some form of positional control (like a mouse) with a controller, even this drawback would be eliminated.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16023	Posted - 2016.09.05 00:14:00 - [7] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Forever ETC wrote: Why not just use mouse and keyboard? No need to disadvantage yourself... People who like kbm will never understand why people who like controllers don't like kbm and vice versa. I think it's to do with the way their minds work or something. I myself can see how kbm is the best for use with games like EvE Online that are somewhat abstracted by the presence of a computer interface interpreting everything for you and performing all the flight controls as if you had a crew and all you were doing was issuing orders. But put me in the position of actually controlling something, as in direct input, and I will go for a controller every time. The analog sensitivity with a controller is just superior. The only thing kbm has over a controller is that the mouse is much more accurate for aiming. If there was some facility to aim using some form of positional control (like a mouse) with a controller, even this drawback would be eliminated. Aiming accuracy differences have huge effects on games. I do prefer controllers for immersion and feel, however, my feeling is that when it comes to PC, its "When in Rome..." It would be nice if there could be a way to even the playing field, but I don't think that is realistic at this point. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 13192	Posted - 2016.09.05 00:21:00 - [8] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: People who like kbm will never understand why people who like controllers don't like kbm and vice versa. Familiarity. I used to play FPS with a joystick back in 97-01. Hated the mouse and keyboard, but I had to adapt because of the fact that my preferred method of control was too expensive to buy at the time. So I learned how to KBM on the original counterstrike. After a few months I forgot why I cared in the first place. Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 461	Posted - 2016.09.05 02:25:00 - [9] - Quote I'm in this boat right now, I suck with the keyboard. It also hurts my wrist after a while. I'm just worried that in a sea of kb-m players I would get smoked by them if I tried to use a controller. When in doubt pull the forge out!! But we are all dead so who cares!
Jammeh McJam XxAMBUSH FTWxX 483	Posted - 2016.09.05 10:17:00 - [10] - Quote lamo guys wrote: I'm in this boat right now, I suck with the keyboard. It also hurts my wrist after a while. I'm just worried that in a sea of kb-m players I would get smoked by them if I tried to use a controller. Well if it helps, yes, you would get smoked by kbm players if you try to use a controller. Word of advice to anyone planning to use a controller for nova... Don't Steam name - Jammeh McJam PC master race

DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 4420	Posted - 2016.09.05 13:25:00 - [11] - Quote Hey jett, I, like that you're spreading good info to the forums, as using a game padder to run a controller on a PC game is a plus if we'll try to convince future players that came from console gaming to play this game. However, be careful as the controller might not be as good you think it is in a game where it's use is not primarily targeted, just saying. Being Romanian is a state of mind.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1540	Posted - 2016.09.05 15:15:00 - [12] - Quote This is assuming they include controller support... And if they do... I might like the challenge. The best idea would be to make analog movement more useful, so it offsets movement against aim... Never have liked digital movement.
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 669	Posted - 2016.09.07 11:08:00 - [13] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Hey jett, I, like that you're spreading good info to the forums, as using a game padder to run a controller on a PC game is a plus if we'll try to convince future players that came from console gaming to play this game. However, be careful as the controller might not be as good you think it is in a game where it's use is not primarily targeted, just saying. Thanks beast, I know what ya mean, but no way to tell really until nova drops. I have had nothing but 100% positive feedback using the PS4 controller mapped to my pc. Used on many FPS pc games and its as if i am playing on the ps4. Cant say that for nova yet but i am fairly certain it will perform well on xbox1 or ps4 controllers that have been mapped properly. What made dust, dust was the community and hopefully with neat software like this we can salvage a few good players. Really look forward to seeing ya'll in nova if it ever comes out. http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 669	Posted - 2016.09.07 11:15:00 - [14] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Why not just use mouse and keyboard? No need to disadvantage yourself... MY FINGERS ARE TOO FAT lolol, no just kidding but honestly i find controllers more chilled out, recline in my lazyboy etc etc... http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
Petrified Ancient Tree The Iberian Norsemen 80	Posted - 2016.09.07 13:12:00 - [15] - Quote lol.... I used a Mouse and Keyboard when playing DUST 514. Never have liked controllers compared to them. Nothing cures bad aim like a mass driver...
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 412	Posted - 2016.09.07 13:20:00 - [16] - Quote Kinda hoping that controller support will be there. Dust was quite probably the only game that I used all 3 input devices routinely: keyboard for movement mouse for gun aim controller stick for gun installations ( try rotating 360 with a mouse - not ! ) CEO of G.R.A.V.E
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 669	Posted - 2016.09.07 21:34:00 - [17] - Quote I found this new software, it allows you to speak a players name in voice input and your player will then track and gun them down without even moving the analog once lol... Take that keypad users lol But i do realize a lot of you like keypads / keyboards I mainly posted this one for those that really liked the controller aspect of dust. Dont get me wrong i used my keyboard to play dust a lot but never found it as effective. Thats just me guys obviously a lot of you are like keypad or nothing but i personally know many players that wanted to quit just because they think they have to play on the keyboard. well thats not the case. PC to ps3/ps4/xbox360/xbox1 controller software is free and easily available for you guys :) http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1172	Posted - 2016.09.07 23:14:00 - [18] - Quote Jammeh McJam wrote: lamo guys wrote: I'm in this boat right now, I suck with the keyboard. It also hurts my wrist after a while. I'm just worried that in a sea of kb-m players I would get smoked by them if I tried to use a controller. Well if it helps, yes, you would get smoked by kbm players if you try to use a controller. Word of advice to anyone planning to use a controller for nova... Don't In the old days, I used to play Doom on PC and would use a kbm setup for that. I remember it worked fairly well, and the best part about it was the mouse for aiming. The worst part about it was the digital nature of the movement control - it was go or stop, nothing in between. I guess if you are used to just running or sprinting everywhere, then that's going to be the same with a controller anyway, but if you want fine control over such things, a controller will still be better. The main issue would be how do you use a controller AND a mouse at the same time? I would think you could only use the left side of the controller (like the PS Move Navigator) and use the mouse for everything the right side of the controller did. It was obvious some people in Dust were using kbm - their accuracy was just freaky. I could easily see how a mouse would make things so much better than a joystick for aiming. You could get close to that sort of accuracy with a joystick but it's never going to be the point-and-click accuracy of a mouse.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1172	Posted - 2016.09.07 23:17:00 - [19] - Quote Petrified Ancient Tree wrote: lol.... I used a Mouse and Keyboard when playing DUST 514. Never have liked controllers compared to them. There is no doubt that they'd be more accurate. Once you were used to the digital nature of the movement controls so that didn't detract, the point-and-click use of a mouse for aiming must be better.
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 670	Posted - 2016.09.10 01:42:00 - [20] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Petrified Ancient Tree wrote: lol.... I used a Mouse and Keyboard when playing DUST 514. Never have liked controllers compared to them. There is no doubt that they'd be more accurate. Once you were used to the digital nature of the movement controls so that didn't detract, the point-and-click use of a mouse for aiming must be better. I have to strongly disagree even tho i like your prior posts. My reason is simple, lets say jonny spawns on a CRU with a crowd of 5 enemies camping that CRU well with a mouse you gotta point and click each target well with a controller its just open fire spray each and every one of them type thing. Maybe a mouse for Sniping yes i would agree but poor old jonny was using a mouse point and click with his hmg and was only able to damage one at a time... As many say it all depends on your playing style vehicles, sniping, CQC or just whatever. I find the controller works great across all aspects where as mice, keyboards/keypads and joysticks can and often times leave you very vulnerable across different aspects of playing styles. http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming

Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1759	Posted - 2016.09.10 01:55:00 - [21] - Quote jett it wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Petrified Ancient Tree wrote: lol.... I used a Mouse and Keyboard when playing DUST 514. Never have liked controllers compared to them. There is no doubt that they'd be more accurate. Once you were used to the digital nature of the movement controls so that didn't detract, the point-and-click use of a mouse for aiming must be better. I have to strongly disagree even tho i like your prior posts. My reason is simple, lets say jonny spawns on a CRU with a crowd of 5 enemies camping that CRU well with a mouse you gotta point and click each target well with a controller its just open fire spray each and every one of them type thing. Maybe a mouse for Sniping yes i would agree but poor old jonny was using a mouse point and click with his hmg and was only able to damage one at a time... As many say it all depends on your playing style vehicles, sniping, CQC or just whatever. I find the controller works great across all aspects where as mice, keyboards/keypads and joysticks can and often times leave you very vulnerable across different aspects of playing styles. No.... you'd still be able to it all enemies with a mouse. You just make cicrular motions with your wrist. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 670	Posted - 2016.09.11 02:36:00 - [22] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: jett it wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Petrified Ancient Tree wrote: lol.... I used a Mouse and Keyboard when playing DUST 514. Never have liked controllers compared to them. There is no doubt that they'd be more accurate. Once you were used to the digital nature of the movement controls so that didn't detract, the point-and-click use of a mouse for aiming must be better. I have to strongly disagree even tho i like your prior posts. My reason is simple, lets say jonny spawns on a CRU with a crowd of 5 enemies camping that CRU well with a mouse you gotta point and click each target well with a controller its just open fire spray each and every one of them type thing. Maybe a mouse for Sniping yes i would agree but poor old jonny was using a mouse point and click with his hmg and was only able to damage one at a time... As many say it all depends on your playing style vehicles, sniping, CQC or just whatever. I find the controller works great across all aspects where as mice, keyboards/keypads and joysticks can and often times leave you very vulnerable across different aspects of playing styles. No.... you'd still be able to it all enemies with a mouse. You just make cicrular motions with your wrist. I know i have done it many times with a mouse, the circular motion that is, not near as effective as a controller analog for spraying a crowd. A controller is far superior when dealing with all aspects of the game. where as mice and keypads/joysticks are only good for certain things not saying they cant do everything just saying they always flaw on certain aspects of different playing styles. Anyways. I like em all. http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
Petrified Ancient Tree The Iberian Norsemen 81	Posted - 2016.10.13 03:47:00 - [23] - Quote FraggerMike wrote: ( try rotating 360 with a mouse - not ! ) I use a trackball. Much easier than a regular mouse or controller. Nothing cures bad aim like a mass driver...
FraggerMike G.R.A.V.E 426	Posted - 2016.10.13 13:32:00 - [24] - Quote Petrified Ancient Tree wrote: FraggerMike wrote: ( try rotating 360 with a mouse - not ! ) I use a trackball. Much easier than a regular mouse or controller. I agree, but I'll probably never train myself on a trackball, although... I do have one, maybe in this growing vast interim I'll work on my ball'n skills CEO of G.R.A.V.E
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13648	Posted - 2016.10.14 23:33:00 - [25] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Why not just use mouse and keyboard? No need to disadvantage yourself... As others have already pointed out, it has far more to do with familiarity (muscle memory) than advantages. Some players are just way better at playing a FPS with a controller instead of a mouse & keyboard and vise versa because of this. Now let's look at something else here. Imagine a combat simulator like War Thunder where a joystick is be highly recommends yet there are people who can handle a plane with a mouse & keyboard instead. What about VR equipment? In a combat simulator like War Thunder, most players are content with using just a combination of a monitor and a directional switch on a HOTAS joystick. They seem to be doing just fine with that. However, as one player in the X-Plane 10 community said: "Once you go VR you never go flat." This is because of the depth perception and the freedom of camera movement with just your head instead of taking your hands off the normal controls. You can maneuver better while still training your eyes on the target, account for your own aircraft's structure blocking your view of a target as you chase them, and catch anyone trying to sneak up on you while still maintaining a sufficient frame of reference. Takeoff and landing in VR is even better because you can judge speed and distance more effectively (although that's what the instruments are for). It's almost tempting to wonder why some combat simulator players are not using VR until you recall how much that HTC Vive cost ($900 with shipping & tax). Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Draxus Prime Nos Nothi 4966	Posted - 2016.10.15 00:05:00 - [26] - Quote plot twist, Steam just announced DS4 native support https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/13/steam-dualshock-playstation-support/ "Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime Closed Beta Vet Scout
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10570	Posted - 2016.10.16 21:38:00 - [27] - Quote XB1 controller. Why would you go through extra steps just to use a simple controller. I think XB1 controllers feel better in your hands, anyways. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 323	Posted - 2016.10.18 09:19:00 - [28] - Quote . At the end of the day , you'll need a ( OrbWeaver Gamepad ) 30-50$ used. It's a real convenience for all FPS needs. Got mines a few weeks ago and I'm not sure if I was this good and beast all along! Or if D514 had some of the best FPS players in the world or if everybody elsewhere just sucks lol it's one of those things that you could jump into any online FPS server and go ham using the ( OrbWeaver Gamepad ) . I'm sure many will convert to it once they've seen what it can do . . ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
jett it S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D 700	Posted - 2016.10.30 22:34:00 - [29] - Quote deadpool lifetone wrote: . At the end of the day , you'll need a ( OrbWeaver Gamepad ) 30-50$ used. It's a real convenience for all FPS needs. Got mines a few weeks ago and I'm not sure if I was this good and beast all along! Or if D514 had some of the best FPS players in the world or if everybody elsewhere just sucks lol it's one of those things that you could jump into any online FPS server and go ham using the ( OrbWeaver Gamepad ) . I'm sure many will convert to it once they've seen what it can do . . Sounds cool ill check it out thanks. http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming


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