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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2016.09.02 01:49:00 -
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John Psi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:
If you're holding out for EVE connection with Nova you should probably take a walk to your nearest Biomass facility.
John Psi wrote:
2. Shooter without integration is absolutely uninteresting.
We have thousands of varieties of this stuff. If there is no integration - another variety no one would notice.
Except Dust had integration that was so poorly done only 1% used it (I think it was even lower than that, but can't remember the exact number).
People will play a good shooter, and EVE players will keep Nova afloat so long as it is not crap, until such time as new things like integration can be added.
Doing things the right way is more important at this point than doing any old thing. That is what Dust did, and we are lucky it lasted as long as it did.
In some ways Fanfest 14 and Legion were a blessing in disguise because the previous team on Dust was awful, and the Legion disaster forced their ouster to get someone like Rattati on board to point things in the right direction.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2016.09.02 04:42:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:One Eyed King wrote:In some ways Fanfest 14 and Legion were a blessing in disguise because the previous team on Dust was awful, and the Legion disaster forced their ouster to get someone like Rattati on board to point things in the right direction. That's still kind of subjective though. I mean yes Rattati put in a good effort but it didn't change that CCP essentially abandoned the IP. I've been doing a good job of keeping my trap shut about Nova until it's actually on my PC for me to properly test, but lately I can't help but feel that Nova will end up being another Legion and WoD. I feel like they took their focus off of this IP a long time ago, and Nova is just a way to keep us hooked in the same way that Legion was. I'll likely be proven wrong, but them WoD feels tho
They may have abandoned the IP specifically, but not its notion (unless they cancelled and haven't told us otherwise).
Rattati took a dumpster fire, made it as cohesive as possible with few resources, and made it profitable. If it weren't for that CCP likely would have ditched the idea of an EVE FPS indefinitely.
And Nova already had a playable demo, which was waaaay more than Legion ever had. Not to mention the Legion was based on the same broken code that Dust had, so it was doomed to fail anyways.
Aside from wishing that CCP had hired the right people for the Dust project to begin with, Nova really is the best we can hope for at this point.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2016.09.03 04:11:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:
100% This. Everyone crying "Without EVE Integration, it wont be a good as Dust!"
What freaking EVE integration? Was it the orbitals that were barely used and ultimately made nearly obsolete due to the WP barge strikes? Or was it the FacWar that was only a 1 way integration where the only effect was on EVE and did nothing to alter the gameplay in Dust?
To be fair a lot of people came for the supposed / potential integration and stayed because they figured it was going to be a persistent experience and it would be built upon. Later on when it was obvious that was never going to come, you also saw a general bleeding of new players. People could see that the game was poorly coded and with no higher purpose to the game, they just left. Many vets just stayed because they got used to it and grew to like the gameplay despite the total lack of connection.
I disagree.
I saw many reasons for people leaving over the years (it seems like every single one left a "I am out of here!" thread...), but not once do I remember anyone saying lack of integration was high on the list.
In fact, it was that attempt at integration in the first place that took away resources that could have been used to make the gameplay actually fun. In essence, an argument can be made (and I do) that the poor attempt at integration and its consequences are a much more significant reason Dust failed.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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