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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.31 00:41:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:I just thought the idea of a forum community that does not realize that their reason for existing no longer exists to be kind of funny in a dark and twisted way. "I see dead communities... They post on forums like regular communities... They don't see the truth... They only see what they want to see... They don't know they are dead." Living Rock 523 wrote:My guess is that Nova hasn't been given the green light yet. That is a possibility. It would allow development to continue is a kind of ****** limbo state for a long time without actually requiring CCP to commit to anything. That doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings about Nova's future... but it's something!
All I can say is this whole episode has had a very negative impact on CCP in my life. I used to be a fairly avid EvE player. I tried Dust and got hooked and now they've cancelled Dust and I no longer can go back to EvE because, well, hooked on Dust. I still have active accounts on EvE but if they don't bring out Nova and nothing else happens to change this turn of events for me, I'll be cancelling my EvE accounts as well.
I once had visions of living in both worlds, with interaction between them, but since CCP dropped the ball on that idea it's all just gone downhill from there. Now I feel like I don't really have much interest in anything that CCP is doing. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1168
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Posted - 2016.08.31 00:46:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:Ok I've got a rough conspiracy theory-
Rather than create a brand new-ish shooter to hopefully one day tie into EVE, a very old game at this point, CCP has decided to create a brand new EVE. Since Nova is moving to PC, and both games take place in the same universe, CCP will simply create 1 game.
Not likely. The EvE community would be in an uproar. They live, breathe, exist in that world. They wouldn't be interested in switching across to a new game, even if it could be done, which I seriously doubt.
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Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1168
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Posted - 2016.08.31 01:13:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:CCP did get torn to pieces post-legion announcement, that much is true. But, again, even the way they made the legion announcement was an example of exactly how not to do PR/marketing. Let's not forget the herculean effort to push boosters, aurum and packs on us for months, close to half a year, just before FF14. As well as the 10 year road map, and claims of exciting news about Dust before FF14. In my opinion this goes well beyond bad PR/Marketing. That's just plain mean spirited, and I don't feel anyone is ever justified in saying "oh well look how everyone acted when FF14 hit" to defend CCPs lack of communication (not saying you did Ripley). I'm fine with the silence at this point, I just really hope they would tell us if Nova had indeed been canceled or green lit. And if it's neither tell us "we want to do Nova, but there is currently an obstacle preventing it. We will know more in the next X to X months".
Why not say it just like it is?
They lied to their player base. Simple. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1170
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Posted - 2016.08.31 12:19:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:In all reality though I'm certainly not expecting Nova to ever be tied to EVE, for a lot of reasons, but mainly due to EVEs age. If my research was accurate EVE just turned 13 in May and you figure the absolute best case scenario for Nova would be a full release in 2 years (Pokeys boundless optimism is starting to rub off on me). That leaves you with a game released in 2003 and a game released in 2018 that you now must tie together. Not factoring in the time it would take to iron out Nova enough to begin combining the 2 games.
It just seems far easier to let EVE putter out, even if it takes another 5-10 years, then create a completely new game containing both concepts. I'm no game designer but I would imagine this would be far easier than 2 separate games.
I'm also not knocking EVE. What CCP has done over there is amazing, and without EVE there never would have been a Dust. Good show CCP.
Edit: CCP may also see some new hardware or something on the horizon. Possibly after jumping onto the PS3 instead of waiting for the PS4 (I know, should have been PC from the beginning, just work with me) they've become a bit more careful/hesitant? I know they are sticking with the PC, and I hope the whole VR thing doesn't come into play, but maybe there's some new PC hardware/software coming in the next few years to justify waiting? I would imagine someone here can answer that particular question.
Frankly, anyone waiting for EvE to peter out of its own accord is probably going to be waiting for a very long time. I don't believe trying to build a shooter separately and then melding it into EvE is the right approach were they to do that. As such I agree with you. If they really wanted to integrate EvE and a shooter, they should build it within EvE. If that's not possible, just forget the whole thing. Waiting for EvE to die is futile. |
Alena Asakura
Rogue Clones
Yulai Federation
1170
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Posted - 2016.08.31 12:23:00 -
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Living Rock 523 wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:The EvE community would be in an uproar Exactly, they are trying to figure out the best way to drop the bomb. I realize Nova will be focusing on the basics, but if they were to get a wild hair again and want to take another shot at the combined universe thing I don't think EVE is the game to do it with anymore. It simply can't last forever.
Afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. EvE isn't just another game. It actually can last forever (at least in terms of lifespan of MMORPGs). The only thing that would kill it would be collapse of CCP, and even then, someone will likely buy it (or perhaps the player base itself) and continue its operation for the totality of the foreseeable future. |
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