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Boundless Kin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.08.19 07:13:00 - [1] - Quote And not like Dust 514 where people jumped from Corp to Corp playing elite fotm wars? Honestly no war in Dust was noteworthy except Caldari Prime where a Titan fell into a planet but that was scripted
Marston VC Sver true blood RUST415 1891	Posted - 2016.08.19 08:57:00 - [2] - Quote Boundless Kin wrote: And not like Dust 514 where people jumped from Corp to Corp playing elite fotm wars? Honestly no war in Dust was noteworthy except Caldari Prime where a Titan fell into a planet but that was scripted They should eventually be almost equally as important if nova follows the same development path as eve and the two games are eventually fully integrated. Eventually there should be a time where nova battles will have large impacts on the outcome of eve battles. If your talking about massive 3000 man battles then probably not. But if your talking about thousands of dollars being lost then yeah I could see it happening if nova has a linked market to eve Marston VC, STB Director
Boundless Kin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.08.19 11:25:00 - [3] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Boundless Kin wrote: And not like Dust 514 where people jumped from Corp to Corp playing elite fotm wars? Honestly no war in Dust was noteworthy except Caldari Prime where a Titan fell into a planet but that was scripted They should eventually be almost equally as important if nova follows the same development path as eve and the two games are eventually fully integrated. Eventually there should be a time where nova battles will have large impacts on the outcome of eve battles. If your talking about massive 3000 man battles then probably not. But if your talking about thousands of dollars being lost then yeah I could see it happening if nova has a linked market to eve Please don't say thousands of dollars lost when we are talking about EVE it makes me cringe but yes in talking about fights where billions of isk are on the line Saddly though I doubt CCP will give us Shiny new Isk sinks in Nova
DUST Fiend 18526	Posted - 2016.08.19 13:06:00 - [4] - Quote It's 16 vs 16 close quarters infantry combat, so no, I doubt the "war" will seem more "war-y" Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Boundless Kin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.08.19 15:40:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: It's 16 vs 16 close quarters infantry combat, so no, I doubt the "war" will seem more "war-y" I don't think you understand me my friend
DUST Fiend 18529	Posted - 2016.08.19 15:44:00 - [6] - Quote Boundless Kin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: It's 16 vs 16 close quarters infantry combat, so no, I doubt the "war" will seem more "war-y" I don't think you understand me my friend That is tremendously probable. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8404	Posted - 2016.08.19 16:48:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Boundless Kin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: It's 16 vs 16 close quarters infantry combat, so no, I doubt the "war" will seem more "war-y" I don't think you understand me my friend That is tremendously probable. I'm think he means more in the sense of territorial disputes and the politics/backstabbing that comes with it. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
Nomed Deeps The Exemplars 522	Posted - 2016.08.19 17:05:00 - [8] - Quote I remember when a bunch of corps gathered together to try to take on EON. That was probably the most interesting Planetary Conquest got as a whole within DUST and even that did not last through an entire weekend if I remember correctly. From what I read, it will be quite a while before Project Nova will be even close to competing with DUST's Planetary Conquest. I'd still play Project Nova though if was able. I cannot be bought, but I can be leased.
DUST Fiend 18529	Posted - 2016.08.19 17:07:00 - [9] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Boundless Kin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: It's 16 vs 16 close quarters infantry combat, so no, I doubt the "war" will seem more "war-y" I don't think you understand me my friend That is tremendously probable. I'm think he means more in the sense of territorial disputes and the politics/backstabbing that comes with it. Who knows. I'm still inclined to say no considering we won't be connected to EVE in any meaningful way, at least for the first year or so. Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Boundless Kin Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.08.19 18:04:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Boundless Kin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: It's 16 vs 16 close quarters infantry combat, so no, I doubt the "war" will seem more "war-y" I don't think you understand me my friend That is tremendously probable. I'm think he means more in the sense of territorial disputes and the politics/backstabbing that comes with it. ^ This

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15996	Posted - 2016.08.19 23:21:00 - [11] - Quote Not at first. It will take a few years for Nova to find its own voice and ability to create that kind of environment, if at all. It will need to move past lobby shooter stage to something more sandboxy, which will take resources and time. If Nova 1.0 is interesting enough to earn money, and enough of that money is reinvested in the game, it has a shot. But that is a lot of ifs, and it will have a lot of competition. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7933	Posted - 2016.08.20 20:16:00 - [12] - Quote Nova's progression definitely needs to be slower than Dust's, and CCP needs to stop handing out respecs every goddamn build. Tired of FotM chasers; force people to have one specialization and stick with it, or stay as a jack-of-all-trades. No more of somebody having a completely different specialization every build. Current state of the forums
Mobius Wyvern Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8348	Posted - 2016.08.23 02:12:00 - [13] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Nova's progression definitely needs to be slower than Dust's, and CCP needs to stop handing out respecs every goddamn build because players are crying that they got nerfed. Tired of FotM chasers; force people to have one specialization and stick with it, or stay as a jack-of-all-trades. No more of somebody having a completely different specialization every build. Or just have a slow progression with no respecs so you can slowly max yourself out in every role you want but you can't bail out of a role. Throw in some kind of VR mode where you can try out gear to see if you like it, and we'll be golden. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 16000	Posted - 2016.08.23 02:47:00 - [14] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Nova's progression definitely needs to be slower than Dust's, and CCP needs to stop handing out respecs every goddamn build because players are crying that they got nerfed. Tired of FotM chasers; force people to have one specialization and stick with it, or stay as a jack-of-all-trades. No more of somebody having a completely different specialization every build. I think they made a mistake when they drastically increased the weekly SP cap. It seems like things opened up a lot in terms of people just playing whatever, and saving up tons of SP to switch to the FotM the next change etc. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
DUST Fiend 18537	Posted - 2016.08.23 23:48:00 - [15] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Nova's progression definitely needs to be slower than Dust's, and CCP needs to stop handing out respecs every goddamn build because players are crying that they got nerfed. Tired of FotM chasers; force people to have one specialization and stick with it, or stay as a jack-of-all-trades. No more of somebody having a completely different specialization every build. Respecs literally never did anything but upset people who didn't need them. If the game isn't broken, then neither are respecs. Considering the small info we have on Nova shows a push towards the casual side, I doubt punishing people for their lack of balance will be a top priority. Plus lets face it, CCP wants cash from this title, so why limit potential transactions? Lord of all things salty, purveyor of gloomish doom and naysayer extraordinaire. AV Incubus Specialist, Ex Prometheus
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7826	Posted - 2016.08.24 12:57:00 - [16] - Quote Boundless Kin wrote: And not like Dust 514 where people jumped from Corp to Corp playing elite fotm wars? Honestly no war in Dust was noteworthy except Caldari Prime where a Titan fell into a planet but that was scripted If they do a better job with Planetary Conquest this time around, then the wars in Nova will at least be better than in DUST. I would like to see the location of a district and the planet it is on have varying strategic importance. I would like to see the economic importance of each district vary to make some districts more valuable than others. I want to see out of the way or isolated districts/planets that a smaller Corp can defend easier. I want to see less valuable districts that a small Corp can hold because they are not worth the larger Corp's efforts. And of course I want to see those Economic hubs that the big boys fight over. I want to see profit from a district require effort from the Corp members (scavenging, or resource extraction activities) so that holding more districts than your Corp can make use of is not profitable. This would encourage some elite corps to accept non elite members and provide ways for non elite corp members to provide a valuable contribution to the Corp. (Worker bees.) This would encourage other elite corps that want to remain small and elite to stick to only holding a small number of Districts. With Corps holding less districts, you would have more Corps active in PC, which would make more dynamic wars. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7826	Posted - 2016.08.24 13:03:00 - [17] - Quote Boundless Kin wrote: Marston VC wrote: Boundless Kin wrote: And not like Dust 514 where people jumped from Corp to Corp playing elite fotm wars? Honestly no war in Dust was noteworthy except Caldari Prime where a Titan fell into a planet but that was scripted They should eventually be almost equally as important if nova follows the same development path as eve and the two games are eventually fully integrated. Eventually there should be a time where nova battles will have large impacts on the outcome of eve battles. If your talking about massive 3000 man battles then probably not. But if your talking about thousands of dollars being lost then yeah I could see it happening if nova has a linked market to eve Please don't say thousands of dollars lost when we are talking about EVE it makes me cringe but yes in talking about fights where billions of isk are on the line Saddly though I doubt CCP will give us Shiny new Isk sinks in Nova Back in 2012 I calculated that raising enough ISK to buy a Titan by selling PLEX would have cost twice what I paid for my first car. I am not sure of the market value of PLEX and Titans currently, but I suspect they are still worth a few thousand dollars (US). Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 7826	Posted - 2016.08.24 13:12:00 - [18] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Nova's progression definitely needs to be slower than Dust's, and CCP needs to stop handing out respecs every goddamn build because players are crying that they got nerfed. Tired of FotM chasers; force people to have one specialization and stick with it, or stay as a jack-of-all-trades. No more of somebody having a completely different specialization every build. Or just have a slow progression with no respecs so you can slowly max yourself out in every role you want but you can't bail out of a role. Throw in some kind of VR mode where you can try out gear to see if you like it, and we'll be golden. I liked the idea someone had of a mechanic to siphon skill points out of one skill and into another over time for a respec, so that a respec would take a few weeks rather than being instant. Maybe tie rate of skill point transfer on the respec to your rate of skill point gain. So for every skill point you gain, 3 skill points of your skill transfer go through. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
lamo guys Corrosive Synergy 460	Posted - 2016.08.24 14:01:00 - [19] - Quote I was never a big PC player in dust, but I would rather see open planet maps and vehicle's before the whole PC was brought back if ever. I would rather see faction war return. When in doubt pull the forge out!! But we are all dead so who cares!
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 1083	Posted - 2016.08.24 14:51:00 - [20] - Quote The wars will eventually turn to the same as Dust. ISK farming at its finest. The only difference will be that we will have a larger player count of "Vets" at the beginning of the game so it won't be as easy. Dustkillz and chill

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1207	Posted - 2016.08.30 03:20:00 - [21] - Quote Nova "most likely" 16 people on each team Only 2 teams Matches courtesy of some Scotty like system Eve Unlimited number of teams can show up Unlimited number of people per team All before we get into fitting options and possible team building composition of Eve and the unknown number of combinations in "Nova". FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
Mobius Wyvern Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8352	Posted - 2016.08.30 03:34:00 - [22] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Nova "most likely" 16 people on each team Only 2 teams Matches courtesy of some Scotty like system Eve Unlimited number of teams can show up Unlimited number of people per team All before we get into fitting options and possible team building composition of Eve and the unknown number of combinations in "Nova". I still can't wait to see how wars are about to change when the new Command Burst mechanic to replace Warfare Links deploys. The funny part was it really got me thinking about AoE buff modules for Command Suits or something in Project Nova. I really hope we'll get assets like that! Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector


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