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Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 702	Posted - 2016.07.13 17:54:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBM03F22Dvg Sorry for neglecting ze forums, But I have been continually uploading vids since dust died, so feel free to take a minute to glance over the channel. All of your feedback is welcome. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 10378	Posted - 2016.07.13 18:45:00 - [2] - Quote No. No, they don't. They need to do that when it is actually greenlit, otherwise it'd be pretty bad. *Scouts United* Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1194	Posted - 2016.07.13 20:09:00 - [3] - Quote Joel II X wrote: No. No, they don't. They need to do that when it is actually greenlit, otherwise it'd be pretty bad. User interest being shown would be the quickest path to a green light. Which came first the chicken or the egg? FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4899	Posted - 2016.07.13 20:22:00 - [4] - Quote It shouldn't and it won't happen. You see what happened to Legion? CCP said it was only a project, and there is even a chance it might not be completed. They don't want Legion all over again where everyone was hyped and excited only for it to be abandoned. CCP won't do that again. (Hopefully). Once they actually have a semi final product to launch with updates, they may start to hype it. But for now, it's best to leave them alone, let them work on it, and hope for the best. Also Quafe. CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 14076	Posted - 2016.07.13 20:28:00 - [5] - Quote I must agree with the above posters. Hype is not a good thing right now. We don't even have a vaguely certain alpha start date yet. Maybe once the alpha has been launched they can begin to do interviews with gaming press, but until then it's best to just keep their heads down and work. The last thing we want is undue hype built up then the game not even make it to alpha. My advice to you, playa.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15918	Posted - 2016.07.13 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote I wouldn't mind if they showed us how they are baking the bread, so to speak, like rough map sketches, clips of discussions of EWAR or progression etc. It would be a good way to keep in touch with us on occasion without creating unreasonable expectations. Where they got in trouble was talking about making bread they never got to, or making artist renderings of the bread they wanted to make. The difference is like when I try and bake something from an internet recipe, it never turns out like it looks in the picture. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8365	Posted - 2016.07.13 23:47:00 - [7] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I must agree with the above posters. Hype is not a good thing right now. We don't even have a vaguely certain alpha start date yet. Maybe once the alpha has been launched they can begin to do interviews with gaming press, but until then it's best to just keep their heads down and work. The last thing we want is undue hype built up then the game not even make it to alpha. The Dust Community. Where people complain that developers don't advertise a game that isn't even officially exist. Like, why are they not hyping World of Darkness more? Like...cmon guys. EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15918	Posted - 2016.07.13 23:48:00 - [8] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: I must agree with the above posters. Hype is not a good thing right now. We don't even have a vaguely certain alpha start date yet. Maybe once the alpha has been launched they can begin to do interviews with gaming press, but until then it's best to just keep their heads down and work. The last thing we want is undue hype built up then the game not even make it to alpha. The Dust Community. Where people complain that developers don't advertise a game that doesn't even officially exist. Like, why are they not hyping World of Darkness more? Like...cmon guys. Just being a smart ass... Because they sold WoD and that is someone else's responsibility now. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 703	Posted - 2016.07.14 00:07:00 - [9] - Quote Raise your hand if you actually watched the video. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13591	Posted - 2016.07.14 00:25:00 - [10] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Joel II X wrote: No. No, they don't. They need to do that when it is actually greenlit, otherwise it'd be pretty bad. User interest being shown would be the quickest path to a green light. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Only to have the hopes of those showing interest get dashed? No thanks. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1195	Posted - 2016.07.14 01:30:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Joel II X wrote: No. No, they don't. They need to do that when it is actually greenlit, otherwise it'd be pretty bad. User interest being shown would be the quickest path to a green light. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Only to have the hopes of those showing interest get dashed? No thanks. If the game were not happening why would the hopes of those people matter? It is all risk versus reward. A hype train growing all the way up to the launch equals more money if the launch happens (reward) and equals a few people getting butt hurt and moving on if its does not (risk). Call it heartless if you like but it is what it is. FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations 8365	Posted - 2016.07.14 02:43:00 - [12] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: I must agree with the above posters. Hype is not a good thing right now. We don't even have a vaguely certain alpha start date yet. Maybe once the alpha has been launched they can begin to do interviews with gaming press, but until then it's best to just keep their heads down and work. The last thing we want is undue hype built up then the game not even make it to alpha. The Dust Community. Where people complain that developers don't advertise a game that doesn't even officially exist. Like, why are they not hyping World of Darkness more? Like...cmon guys. Just being a smart ass... Because they sold WoD and that is someone else's responsibility now. Pffffttt excuses! Typical CCP! EVE: Phoenix - 'Rise Again' Trailer
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD RUST415 196	Posted - 2016.07.14 06:54:00 - [13] - Quote I can tell by your post , that you are still young and un-sure about your existence . Relax , go out side and chase Pok+¬mons with the rest of world. Let CCP work and do their thing . No hype needed for a game that wasn't even expected to be this successful . They know they have a cash cow in the barn . ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
james selim brownstein NECROM0NGERS 533	Posted - 2016.07.14 07:10:00 - [14] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Joel II X wrote: No. No, they don't. They need to do that when it is actually greenlit, otherwise it'd be pretty bad. User interest being shown would be the quickest path to a green light. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Who came first, males or females? n++Gòª¦¦¦¦-ç¦+¦+¦+¦+ WAITING FOR PROJECT NOVAGòñGöÇGöÇGöÇ Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1196	Posted - 2016.07.14 07:45:00 - [15] - Quote james selim brownstein wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Joel II X wrote: No. No, they don't. They need to do that when it is actually greenlit, otherwise it'd be pretty bad. User interest being shown would be the quickest path to a green light. Which came first the chicken or the egg? Who came first, males or females? Usually the male................ FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 703	Posted - 2016.07.14 18:11:00 - [16] - Quote It looks like pretty much everybody here failed to actually clicky clicky the video, and are therefore trying to forum warrior me based on a faulty assumption of what I consider "building hype" be. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4900	Posted - 2016.07.14 18:13:00 - [17] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: It looks like pretty much everybody here failed to actually clicky clicky the video, and are therefore trying to forum warrior me based on a faulty assumption of what I consider "building hype" be. Quafe CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 703	Posted - 2016.07.14 18:58:00 - [18] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: It looks like pretty much everybody here failed to actually clicky clicky the video, and are therefore trying to forum warrior me based on a faulty assumption of what I consider "building hype" be. Quafe My god the obsession never ends with you. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4900	Posted - 2016.07.14 19:05:00 - [19] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: It looks like pretty much everybody here failed to actually clicky clicky the video, and are therefore trying to forum warrior me based on a faulty assumption of what I consider "building hype" be. Quafe My god the obsession never ends with you. CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15929	Posted - 2016.07.14 20:00:00 - [20] - Quote Heracles Porsche wrote: It looks like pretty much everybody here failed to actually clicky clicky the video, and are therefore trying to forum warrior me based on a faulty assumption of what I consider "building hype" to be. In our defense, it could be a Rick Roll. That is just not a risk I am willing to take. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

Nomed Deeps The Exemplars 510	Posted - 2016.07.14 20:38:00 - [21] - Quote Speaking of hype, anyone remember this hype (/lie) where PVE drones were shown in DUST 514? Gathering Forces Yep, that never happened outside that trailer. I am guessing PVE never happened because CCP were wanting to perfect their AI. With the crap AI Defiance and Destiny (at least early) had, if it moved decently and shot at you, it would have been just fine. Hell, the targeting AI for the big ground turrets in DUST 514 were sometimes too good if you accidently hit them. I cannot be bought, but I can be leased.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 1199	Posted - 2016.07.14 22:02:00 - [22] - Quote Nomed Deeps wrote: Speaking of hype, anyone remember this hype (/lie) where PVE drones were shown in DUST 514? Gathering Forces Yep, that never happened outside that trailer. I am guessing PVE never happened because CCP were wanting to perfect their AI. With the crap AI Defiance and Destiny (at least early) had, if it moved decently and shot at you, it would have been just fine. Hell, the targeting AI for the big ground turrets in DUST 514 were sometimes too good if you accidently hit them. I would argue that PVE turned into a serious catch 22. With the average amount of players online at any given time dividing the player base up and possibly allowing some form of farming would have put even more stress on match making. The issue is that it was that lack of PVE that really hindered the ability to retain more players and grow the player base. At that point you end up with PVE needing an entire team to itself to both make it worth while and keep it from having harmful effects on the rest of the game. In a lot of beta and alpha games you see PVE added first followed by a simple form of PVP and then they focus on expanding both sides through shared resources and balancing information. This allows the player base to have a certain growth factor that is not negatively impacted as badly by a lack of balance (cough protostomping) and allows players to create their own sort of learning curve. FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
Heracles Porsche Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 703	Posted - 2016.07.14 23:33:00 - [23] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: It looks like pretty much everybody here failed to actually clicky clicky the video, and are therefore trying to forum warrior me based on a faulty assumption of what I consider "building hype" to be. In our defense, it could be a Rick Roll. That is just not a risk I am willing to take. Why would you want to pass up another opporunity to hear the stunning baritone of the great Rick Astley? Your idea of risk is my idea of reward. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/c/HeraclesPorsche
AERYN SUIN warravens Imperium Eden 7	Posted - 2016.07.15 00:42:00 - [24] - Quote It would be great if they at least released a weekly video update on the development of NOVA till we had a announcement of when the release date would be. Plus a inside look at what they are doing with it in Iceland and Shanghai, China would be great to get to know all the people behind it. It is a opportunity for them to show us they are not absolute traitors and do give a **** about all of us that have been left behind.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13592	Posted - 2016.07.15 00:58:00 - [25] - Quote AERYN SUIN wrote: It would be great if they at least released a weekly video update on the development of NOVA till we had a announcement of when the release date would be. Plus a inside look at what they are doing with it in Iceland and Shanghai, China would be great to get to know all the people behind it. It is a opportunity for them to show us they are not absolute traitors and do give a **** about all of us that have been left behind. That would be ok for me. I would actually like to get to know the staff as well. So far we only know a few of them. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
knobley Eternal Beings SpaceMonkey's Alliance 53	Posted - 2016.07.15 12:15:00 - [26] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I wouldn't mind if they showed us how they are baking the bread, so to speak, like rough map sketches, clips of discussions of EWAR or progression etc. It would be a good way to keep in touch with us on occasion without creating unreasonable expectations. Where they got in trouble was talking about making bread they never got to, or making artist renderings of the bread they wanted to make. The difference is like when I try and bake something from an internet recipe, it never turns out like it looks in the picture. Perhaps just a small invitation or link to current progress made available to those who did the whole 514 newsletter thing. I don't think that would be hype, just appreciation/respect shown to those who supported CCP for over 3 years. Where the $@#% is my scout launcher?
Dragonmeballs Better Hide R Die 329	Posted - 2016.07.16 18:06:00 - [27] - Quote knobley wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I wouldn't mind if they showed us how they are baking the bread, so to speak, like rough map sketches, clips of discussions of EWAR or progression etc. It would be a good way to keep in touch with us on occasion without creating unreasonable expectations. Where they got in trouble was talking about making bread they never got to, or making artist renderings of the bread they wanted to make. The difference is like when I try and bake something from an internet recipe, it never turns out like it looks in the picture. Perhaps just a small invitation or link to current progress made available to those who did the whole 514 newsletter thing. I don't think that would be hype, just appreciation/respect shown to those who supported CCP for over 3 years. I suspect this is exactly the kind of thing Herc is talking about. Since CCP is still sorting through the viability of Nova and whether it will ever it become something more than a glorified thought experiment it up to the fans and former customers of Dust 514 to keep the dream alive and convince the powers that be Nova should move to a product development stage before the end of 2016. All we can do is politely remind CCP management the marketplace has room for a FPS with depth and sophistication as was demonstrated by the years so many of us played Dust Caldari in the streets, Amarr between the sheets
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13593	Posted - 2016.07.17 04:01:00 - [28] - Quote Dragonmeballs wrote: knobley wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I wouldn't mind if they showed us how they are baking the bread, so to speak, like rough map sketches, clips of discussions of EWAR or progression etc. It would be a good way to keep in touch with us on occasion without creating unreasonable expectations. Where they got in trouble was talking about making bread they never got to, or making artist renderings of the bread they wanted to make. The difference is like when I try and bake something from an internet recipe, it never turns out like it looks in the picture. Perhaps just a small invitation or link to current progress made available to those who did the whole 514 newsletter thing. I don't think that would be hype, just appreciation/respect shown to those who supported CCP for over 3 years. I suspect this is exactly the kind of thing Herc is talking about. Since CCP is still sorting through the viability of Nova and whether it will ever it become something more than a glorified thought experiment it up to the fans and former customers of Dust 514 to keep the dream alive and convince the powers that be Nova should move to a product development stage before the end of 2016. All we can do is politely remind CCP management the marketplace has room for a FPS with depth and sophistication as was demonstrated by the years so many of us played Dust And even if CCP were to give us any hint of their progress we must all assume that any such details (however small they may be) will figuratively have a disclaimer in which such details are just a "WORK IN PROGRESS." And if CCP has to literally slap on the "WORK IN PROGRESS" label on any blogs or videos they post to drive home that point then so be it. And we all must already know and understand what "WORK IN PROGRESS" means. It means that whatever they show us is NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT AND IS SUBJECT TO BEING CHANGED LATER ON WITHOUT NOTICE. My point here is that we as a community are still responsible for managing our own expectations here. Sure, CCP didn't do well at all with managing expectations on Dust 514 in addition to how we amplified any unrealistic expectation we created as a community but that game is dead now and that dead game was developed by old leadership that didn't know what they were doing. Project Nova is under better leadership with CCP Rattati and now has CCP LogicLoop back in the team leading the level designing. This means we shouldn't be expecting any new hype in the foreseeable future unless CCP actually feels that Nova is ready for it. In the meantime we have to temper our own expectations and not let ourselves fall again into that trap of amplifying any unrealistic expectations we create. In fact, we all have to stop creating unrealistic expectations because otherwise we will be right back into square one like we did with Dust. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Dragonmeballs Better Hide R Die 331	Posted - 2016.07.17 14:20:00 - [29] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Dragonmeballs wrote: knobley wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I wouldn't mind if they showed us how they are baking the bread, so to speak, like rough map sketches, clips of discussions of EWAR or progression etc. It would be a good way to keep in touch with us on occasion without creating unreasonable expectations. Where they got in trouble was talking about making bread they never got to, or making artist renderings of the bread they wanted to make. The difference is like when I try and bake something from an internet recipe, it never turns out like it looks in the picture. Perhaps just a small invitation or link to current progress made available to those who did the whole 514 newsletter thing. I don't think that would be hype, just appreciation/respect shown to those who supported CCP for over 3 years. I suspect this is exactly the kind of thing Herc is talking about. Since CCP is still sorting through the viability of Nova and whether it will ever it become something more than a glorified thought experiment it up to the fans and former customers of Dust 514 to keep the dream alive and convince the powers that be Nova should move to a product development stage before the end of 2016. All we can do is politely remind CCP management the marketplace has room for a FPS with depth and sophistication as was demonstrated by the years so many of us played Dust And even if CCP were to give us any hint of their progress we must all assume that any such details (however small they may be) will figuratively have a disclaimer in which such details are just a "WORK IN PROGRESS." And if CCP has to literally slap on the "WORK IN PROGRESS" label on any blogs or videos they post to drive home that point then so be it. And we all must already know and understand what "WORK IN PROGRESS" means. It means that whatever they show us is NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT AND IS SUBJECT TO BEING CHANGED LATER ON WITHOUT NOTICE. My point here is that we as a community are still responsible for managing our own expectations here. Sure, CCP didn't do well at all with managing expectations on Dust 514 in addition to how we amplified any unrealistic expectation we created as a community but that game is dead now and that dead game was developed by old leadership that didn't know what they were doing. Project Nova is under better leadership with CCP Rattati and now has CCP LogicLoop back in the team leading the level designing. This means we shouldn't be expecting any new hype in the foreseeable future unless CCP actually feels that Nova is ready for it. In the meantime we have to temper our own expectations and not let ourselves fall again into that trap of amplifying any unrealistic expectations we create. In fact, we all have to stop creating unrealistic expectations because otherwise we will be right back into square one like we did with Dust. I couldn't agree more Maken Caldari in the streets, Amarr between the sheets
AERYN SUIN WarRavens Imperium Eden 8	Posted - 2016.07.17 15:04:00 - [30] - Quote Dragonmeballs wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Dragonmeballs wrote: knobley wrote: One Eyed King wrote: I wouldn't mind if they showed us how they are baking the bread, so to speak, like rough map sketches, clips of discussions of EWAR or progression etc. It would be a good way to keep in touch with us on occasion without creating unreasonable expectations. Where they got in trouble was talking about making bread they never got to, or making artist renderings of the bread they wanted to make. The difference is like when I try and bake something from an internet recipe, it never turns out like it looks in the picture. Perhaps just a small invitation or link to current progress made available to those who did the whole 514 newsletter thing. I don't think that would be hype, just appreciation/respect shown to those who supported CCP for over 3 years. I suspect this is exactly the kind of thing Herc is talking about. Since CCP is still sorting through the viability of Nova and whether it will ever it become something more than a glorified thought experiment it up to the fans and former customers of Dust 514 to keep the dream alive and convince the powers that be Nova should move to a product development stage before the end of 2016. All we can do is politely remind CCP management the marketplace has room for a FPS with depth and sophistication as was demonstrated by the years so many of us played Dust And even if CCP were to give us any hint of their progress we must all assume that any such details (however small they may be) will figuratively have a disclaimer in which such details are just a "WORK IN PROGRESS." And if CCP has to literally slap on the "WORK IN PROGRESS" label on any blogs or videos they post to drive home that point then so be it. And we all must already know and understand what "WORK IN PROGRESS" means. It means that whatever they show us is NOT THE FINAL PRODUCT AND IS SUBJECT TO BEING CHANGED LATER ON WITHOUT NOTICE. My point here is that we as a community are still responsible for managing our own expectations here. Sure, CCP didn't do well at all with managing expectations on Dust 514 in addition to how we amplified any unrealistic expectation we created as a community but that game is dead now and that dead game was developed by old leadership that didn't know what they were doing. Project Nova is under better leadership with CCP Rattati and now has CCP LogicLoop back in the team leading the level designing. This means we shouldn't be expecting any new hype in the foreseeable future unless CCP actually feels that Nova is ready for it. In the meantime we have to temper our own expectations and not let ourselves fall again into that trap of amplifying any unrealistic expectations we create. In fact, we all have to stop creating unrealistic expectations because otherwise we will be right back into square one like we did with Dust. I couldn't agree more Maken I thought I was over Dust, but I am not and it is pretty damn sad/depressing.....good points guys, at least i got some games coming in the mail. ps3 id : DannyDistorted26 o7 https://www.facebook.com/dannyr26.88



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