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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
3113
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Posted - 2016.06.27 14:56:00 -
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Been a hella long road I wanna give a shoutout to all you peeps for the great battles, responsibility of owning corporations, and serving under some AMAZING CEOS. I'll be lurkin around that Alpha test 07
PSN: saphireblue-7
Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
Nope^
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7863
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Posted - 2016.06.27 15:06:00 -
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Look both ways before crossing the street.
Current state of the forums
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byte modal
854
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Posted - 2016.06.27 15:37:00 -
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hm. grats!
Don't get her pregnant before you have a job with insurance? Try to pay attention in college. Don't put sh!t on credit! Jelly will actually keep outside of the fridge way longer than you would think. Same for salsa. If your dog continually gets UTIs and your vet dismisses it, find another vet. It's probably bladder cancer. Don't sleep on the couch on a regular basis. Your back will punish you years later. You're young. Start a retirement fund now. The older you get, the faster time seems to pass. I am NOT exaggerating. Keep up with the good friends. Screw the rest. Relationships are based on compromise, else it's just a one-way street. Be humble? lol. Sooner or later you will get old and the younger generation will begin to **** you off the way you are probably pissing off my generation now. Lion King stuff, that. Circle of life and all. Look up Lion King. Left lane is for passing. Especially if you're asian. Blinker first. Then brakes. Especially if you're asian. uuh...
If you have a dream, make time for it. Otherwise, the day-to-day routine will take over and before you realize, a decade or more has passed and you're stuck in debt, 2 divorced angry wives are leaving cryptic death-threats on your mobile, kids that you've forgotten exist are asking for money, and a cat that keeps vomiting meow-mix into the carpet for all to see. Then you have a stroke and have to pee through a tube till even the Hospice forgets about you. hm.
yeah.
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8314
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Posted - 2016.06.27 15:38:00 -
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Clench. Clench Hard.
High School was the easy part, College/Adult Life is just waiting to **** you.
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FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
391
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Posted - 2016.06.27 15:44:00 -
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Responses 1, 2 and 3:
Read them carefully, memorize them all. Good tips, every single one of them.
CEO of G.R.A.V.E
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1715
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Posted - 2016.06.27 16:29:00 -
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Here's one:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHL0y6xvLE
CCP logic GÇô NOVA isn't an actual product. It is only a project. We might not do it at all.
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FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
392
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Posted - 2016.06.27 16:31:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:
Always wise advice !
CEO of G.R.A.V.E
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Thumb Green
Elephant Riders
2830
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Posted - 2016.06.27 17:24:00 -
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byte modal wrote:Don't put sh!t on credit! Don't put sh!t you can't afford on credit (or rather don't get it at all), if you can afford it put it on credit and immediately pay it off. It'll make things that require good credit, like a home loan, easier to get.
It was both infuriating and fun while it lasted.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
963
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Posted - 2016.06.27 17:51:00 -
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Put on the latex or she'll get your paycheck
Dustkillz and chill
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Forever ETC
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1723
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Posted - 2016.06.27 17:56:00 -
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Congratulations, you've completed the minimum educational requirement. I've still got a year left and if all goes well I should be able to join the Marines after my immigration paperwork is sorted.
Advice:
College, don't skip it! More and more jobs are requiring it, and it's a greater loss to not go to college than to pay for it.(2 years community, 2 years University) Take a Financial Course, know to budget, invest and save. Get good credit and connections with banks. Don't make your hobby your job, make your job your hobby! First few years don't live alone, find roommates or live with parents. Invest! Make your money grow. Have good connections with local community, neighbors, cashiers, officers etc. Careful what you intake and the crowds you're with. Don't be an assh*le!
AmarrFTW
"The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... "
Not For Sale- Sanders 2016
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8318
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Posted - 2016.06.27 18:09:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:byte modal wrote:Don't put sh!t on credit! Don't put sh!t you can't afford on credit (or rather don't get it at all), if you can afford it put it on credit and immediately pay it off. It'll make things that require good credit, like a home loan, easier to get.
True story. I use my credit card for EVERYTHING but I never put more on it than I have in my checking account.
Hell I have mine set to automatically pay 100% of the balance at the end of the month, so as long as I never exceed what I have in my account, I can treat it like my debit card but it builds my credit (and get 1.5% back on everything I buy)
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byte modal
858
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Posted - 2016.06.27 18:56:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:
pure genius. hm. why do i always try to type that with an "o"?
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4880
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Posted - 2016.06.27 19:46:00 -
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byte modal wrote:hm. grats! Don't get her pregnant before you have a job with insurance? Try to pay attention in college. Don't put sh!t on credit! Jelly will actually keep outside of the fridge way longer than you would think. Same for salsa. If your dog continually gets UTIs and your vet dismisses it, find another vet. It's probably bladder cancer. Don't sleep on the couch on a regular basis. Your back will punish you years later. You're young. Start a retirement fund now. The older you get, the faster time seems to pass. I am NOT exaggerating.Keep up with the good friends. Screw the rest. Relationships are based on compromise, else it's just a one-way street. Be humble? lol. Sooner or later you will get old and the younger generation will begin to **** you off the way you are probably pissing off my generation now. Lion King stuff, that. Circle of life and all. Look up Lion King. Left lane is for passing. Especially if you're asian. Blinker first. Then brakes. Especially if you're asian. uuh... If you have a dream, make time for it. Otherwise, the day-to-day routine will take over and before you realize, a decade or more has passed and you're stuck in debt, 2 divorced angry wives are leaving cryptic death-threats on your mobile, kids that you've forgotten exist are asking for money, and a cat that keeps vomiting meow-mix into the carpet for all to see. Then you have a stroke and have to pee through a tube till even the Hospice forgets about you. hm. yeah. grats?
He's not lying. I just entered 11th grade but even still, my life is goIng hella fast. Be punctual. Don't procrastinate. Get stuff done on time. JUST DO IT.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 71m SP
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8321
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Posted - 2016.06.27 20:07:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:byte modal wrote:hm. grats! Don't get her pregnant before you have a job with insurance? Try to pay attention in college. Don't put sh!t on credit! Jelly will actually keep outside of the fridge way longer than you would think. Same for salsa. If your dog continually gets UTIs and your vet dismisses it, find another vet. It's probably bladder cancer. Don't sleep on the couch on a regular basis. Your back will punish you years later. You're young. Start a retirement fund now. The older you get, the faster time seems to pass. I am NOT exaggerating.Keep up with the good friends. Screw the rest. Relationships are based on compromise, else it's just a one-way street. Be humble? lol. Sooner or later you will get old and the younger generation will begin to **** you off the way you are probably pissing off my generation now. Lion King stuff, that. Circle of life and all. Look up Lion King. Left lane is for passing. Especially if you're asian. Blinker first. Then brakes. Especially if you're asian. uuh... If you have a dream, make time for it. Otherwise, the day-to-day routine will take over and before you realize, a decade or more has passed and you're stuck in debt, 2 divorced angry wives are leaving cryptic death-threats on your mobile, kids that you've forgotten exist are asking for money, and a cat that keeps vomiting meow-mix into the carpet for all to see. Then you have a stroke and have to pee through a tube till even the Hospice forgets about you. hm. yeah. grats? He's not lying. I just entered 11th grade but even still, my life is goIng hella fast. Be punctual. Don't procrastinate. Get stuff done on time. JUST DO IT.
Stop making me feel old.
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Dust User
Opus Arcana
3744
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Posted - 2016.06.27 20:19:00 -
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Knock some sense into that creepy brother of yours.
Dust User for CPM 3.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10340
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Posted - 2016.06.27 20:54:00 -
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If you have a stable job, and are already paying stuff with a debit card/cash, pay with credit instead (if you can afford it). Most cards come with 0% APR for the first year, so try using that to your advantage. Pay it off quickly once it kicks in, though.
Stay in school. Among with your work place, it's perhaps one of the only few locations you'll have legit human interaction, relationships, and most importantly, investment for your future.
Steal candy from babies. It's easy, and you can resell it for profit.
Resist temptations to buy into the latest trends. How you spend your money is important now.
Party hard, work even harder.
Riding your own vehicle is more convenient than taking public transportation.
Staying with your parents for a bit longer helps you save money, though you'll have to move out eventually, ya damn hippie!
Keeping your virginity until you're 30 makes you a wizard, Harry.
No one cares about anybody in community college, but in a 4 year institution, most people that care are just pretending.
Getting a motorcycle is cheaper than a car.
Don't fuck the police.
Be kind to your neighbors, and any technician coming over to your house. You may see them often, and might prove useful in some way or another.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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NextDark Knight
Hellstorm LLC
962
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Posted - 2016.06.27 21:32:00 -
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Find successful people and hang out with them. Success rubs off..
Caldari Suit Videos Love Caldari - Since 6/29/2012
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4880
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Posted - 2016.06.27 23:29:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:byte modal wrote:hm. grats! Don't get her pregnant before you have a job with insurance? Try to pay attention in college. Don't put sh!t on credit! Jelly will actually keep outside of the fridge way longer than you would think. Same for salsa. If your dog continually gets UTIs and your vet dismisses it, find another vet. It's probably bladder cancer. Don't sleep on the couch on a regular basis. Your back will punish you years later. You're young. Start a retirement fund now. The older you get, the faster time seems to pass. I am NOT exaggerating.Keep up with the good friends. Screw the rest. Relationships are based on compromise, else it's just a one-way street. Be humble? lol. Sooner or later you will get old and the younger generation will begin to **** you off the way you are probably pissing off my generation now. Lion King stuff, that. Circle of life and all. Look up Lion King. Left lane is for passing. Especially if you're asian. Blinker first. Then brakes. Especially if you're asian. uuh... If you have a dream, make time for it. Otherwise, the day-to-day routine will take over and before you realize, a decade or more has passed and you're stuck in debt, 2 divorced angry wives are leaving cryptic death-threats on your mobile, kids that you've forgotten exist are asking for money, and a cat that keeps vomiting meow-mix into the carpet for all to see. Then you have a stroke and have to pee through a tube till even the Hospice forgets about you. hm. yeah. grats? He's not lying. I just entered 11th grade but even still, my life is goIng hella fast. Be punctual. Don't procrastinate. Get stuff done on time. JUST DO IT. Stop making me feel old.
Making you feel old?
Ive met people that have told me I look like I'm 24+. I'm only 16.
I have a decent beard. (Haven't shaved in a month, usually shave every Wednesday). I have hair EVERYWHERE. I am a dam.n super aging gorilla. I am seen as a very mature and serious person irl, which emhances my "oldness" to other people.
5 minutes feels like 1 minute to me. Time is going by too fast. I'm also obsessed with soccer and news
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 71m SP
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1947
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Posted - 2016.06.27 23:32:00 -
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Take drugs, kill a Bear.
Rudimentary Mercs of scrubs and incompetence. You touch my mind, fumbling in Ignorance, incapable of understanding.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
8325
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Posted - 2016.06.27 23:57:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Making you feel old?
Ive met people that have told me I look like I'm 24+. I'm only 16.
I have a decent beard. (Haven't shaved in a month, usually shave every Wednesday). I have hair EVERYWHERE. I am a dam.n super aging gorilla. I am seen as a very mature and serious person irl, which emhances my "oldness" to other people.
5 minutes feels like 1 minute to me. Time is going by too fast. I'm also obsessed with soccer and news
I'm 28 and people typically peg me to be around 18-20, so I have the opposite problem it seems.
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emm kay
Direct Action Resources
426
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Posted - 2016.06.28 00:42:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Been a hella long road I wanna give a shoutout to all you peeps for the great battles, responsibility of owning corporations, and serving under some AMAZING CEOS. I'll be lurkin around that Alpha test 07 same here.
Working my ass off currently. and btw you led really well. use that.
There is a reason you never see me in battle.
it's because I see you first.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
13571
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Posted - 2016.06.28 01:39:00 -
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I'll give you one advise. Don't ever go for a liberal arts degree.
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2862
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Posted - 2016.06.28 03:34:00 -
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Remember that suicide in public areas is strictly prohibited.
Am ded.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1163
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Posted - 2016.06.28 21:36:00 -
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byte modal wrote:Don't put sh!t on credit!
You should definitely use credit but absolutely without compromise do not spend more than you can pay off at the end of the month and DO pay it off at the end of every month.
I tell most people to only put food and gas on credit as those get some decent rewards depending on your card and you know you are not going to eat or drive yourself into a giant debt hole. As tempting as it will be when you want a new PC or console or whatever do not buy it until you have the money to pay for it when the bill comes due. Once they get you into the interest spiral you will lose a lot getting back out of it.
The sooner you start building history the better off you will be when it comes time for big purchases like houses and cars.
I thought since I could just buy what I wanted with cash I should stay away from credit completely but that seriously bit me in the ass when it was time to get credit. I even had an apartment refuse me when I offered to pay 6 months of the lease on the spot because I was 25 years old and had a blank credit history.
FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4880
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:18:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:byte modal wrote:Don't put sh!t on credit! You should definitely use credit but absolutely without compromise do not spend more than you can pay off at the end of the month and DO pay it off at the end of every month. I tell most people to only put food and gas on credit as those get some decent rewards depending on your card and you know you are not going to eat or drive yourself into a giant debt hole. As tempting as it will be when you want a new PC or console or whatever do not buy it until you have the money to pay for it when the bill comes due. Once they get you into the interest spiral you will lose a lot getting back out of it. The sooner you start building history the better off you will be when it comes time for big purchases like houses and cars. I thought since I could just buy what I wanted with cash I should stay away from credit completely but that seriously bit me in the ass when it was time to get credit. I even had an apartment refuse me when I offered to pay 6 months of the lease on the spot because I was 25 years old and had a blank credit history.
Whaaaaaat? Damn. I mean, credit or not, that's half a year of prepaid living, more than enough time to et ready to move out of you can't pay or anything, but yeah, OP manage credit wisely. As my AP NSL teacher has told me (and he does), use it for necessities and needs (like food and gas, make a budget plan). Don't use it for expensive wants.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 71m SP
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1164
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Posted - 2016.06.28 22:36:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:byte modal wrote:Don't put sh!t on credit! You should definitely use credit but absolutely without compromise do not spend more than you can pay off at the end of the month and DO pay it off at the end of every month. I tell most people to only put food and gas on credit as those get some decent rewards depending on your card and you know you are not going to eat or drive yourself into a giant debt hole. As tempting as it will be when you want a new PC or console or whatever do not buy it until you have the money to pay for it when the bill comes due. Once they get you into the interest spiral you will lose a lot getting back out of it. The sooner you start building history the better off you will be when it comes time for big purchases like houses and cars. I thought since I could just buy what I wanted with cash I should stay away from credit completely but that seriously bit me in the ass when it was time to get credit. I even had an apartment refuse me when I offered to pay 6 months of the lease on the spot because I was 25 years old and had a blank credit history. Whaaaaaat? Damn. I mean, credit or not, that's half a year of prepaid living, more than enough time to et ready to move out of you can't pay or anything, but yeah, OP manage credit wisely. As my AP NSL teacher has told me (and he does), use it for necessities and needs (like food and gas, make a budget plan). Don't use it for expensive wants.
Yea it was a tough lesson on what I guess you could call over managing credit. A few weeks after that I got a Capital One secured card and worked my way up there adding a few credit cards and spending and paying off each month to now where I just got approved for a 55k car loan at 2.5% interest.
That's the biggest lesson I would pass on to anyone is that when you have a good cash flow going use it to build up credit because you never know when you will need it. As the old saying goes, "It's better to have and not need than need and not have."
FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
13060
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Posted - 2016.06.29 00:27:00 -
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There are four absulute necessities in life needed to succeed and not get stuck in a sh*t job for eternity:
1: water 2: soap 3: shampoo 4: deodorant
Apply liberally, daily.
Special note: axe deodorants
Every woman I have ever met despises the stench of that sh*t.
Spray-on deodorant is bad, mmm'kay?
Yes, I am a Goon. No, I don't care about your spacepolitik.
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byte modal
863
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Posted - 2016.06.29 03:38:00 -
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lol. i guess i should have typed, "Don't put sh!t on credit!"
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood
1014
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Posted - 2016.06.29 21:59:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Been a hella long road I wanna give a shoutout to all you peeps for the great battles, responsibility of owning corporations, and serving under some AMAZING CEOS. I'll be lurkin around that Alpha test 07
You too!? EYYYYY! CONGRATS
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1164
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Posted - 2016.06.29 22:40:00 -
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byte modal wrote:lol. i guess i should have typed, "Don't put sh!t on credit!"
That's the problem with profanities. They are so broad and interchangeable that it becomes difficult to get your point across.
Am I right that what you are trying to say is, "don't put unnecessary junk on credit" or am I still misinterpreting your statement?
FAREWELL 514 /// FAREWELL CCP UNTIL WE HAVE NOVA OR FOREVER WHICH EVER ONE COMES FIRST
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byte modal
865
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Posted - 2016.06.30 00:52:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:byte modal wrote:lol. i guess i should have typed, "Don't put sh!t on credit!" That's the problem with profanities. They are so broad and interchangeable that it becomes difficult to get your point across. Am I right that what you are trying to say is, "don't put unnecessary junk on credit" or am I still misinterpreting your statement?
lol. Yeah. My reply wasn't to you specifically. I just found it funny that three or four others singled out that one comment among a list of several tongue-in-cheek situations to get real on. Honestly, you offered great advice. As did the others. I just got a kick out of some of the replies and had to point it out and laugh.
Yes. As others have noted, use credit wisely and don't put petty wants on it to pay over time what you can't afford to do otherwise. That's all i meant.
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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501st Headstrong
0uter.Heaven
3116
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Posted - 2016.07.01 14:02:00 -
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Thank you everyone!!
And congrats to all my other graduates and shout out to you Delt:) I played with you only once but you were chill AF
And Dust User....I'll try
PSN: saphireblue-7
Dusty5678 stole this account. <<<<--------------------------------This is now rectified lol
Nope^
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byte modal
875
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Posted - 2016.07.01 16:44:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I'll give you one advise. Don't ever go for a liberal arts degree.
I beg to differ! I got arguably one of the most liberal of liberal arts degrees! Fine Art - Studio Painting! Well, maybe behind theater and russian literature. =\ Yeah. we were inundated with drop-outs from every other major thinking they could get a degree in finger painting, but still! I'm working in Gov't Contracting as a result of screwing around with design, flash, and 3dmax! Well. Intermixed with oil painting and sculpture =\
Maybe i'm of the minority. derno. I'm just rambling before getting back to work and this seemed as good a topic to reply to as any. Point: fill in the gaps with usable classes, regardless of your path. I guess.
YMMV. (topic-wise)
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4887
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Posted - 2016.07.01 17:05:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Thank you everyone!!
And congrats to all my other graduates and shout out to you Delt:) I played with you only once but you were chill AF
And Dust User....I'll try
Yeah, I remember that time. You were knifing.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1180
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Posted - 2016.07.02 00:15:00 -
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byte modal wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll give you one advise. Don't ever go for a liberal arts degree. I beg to differ! I got arguably one of the most liberal of liberal arts degrees! Fine Art - Studio Painting! Well, maybe behind theater and russian literature. =\ Yeah. we were inundated with drop-outs from every other major thinking they could get a degree in finger painting, but still! I'm working in Gov't Contracting as a result of screwing around with design, flash, and 3dmax! Well. Intermixed with oil painting and sculpture =\ Maybe i'm of the minority. derno. I'm just rambling before getting back to work and this seemed as good a topic to reply to as any. Point: fill in the gaps with usable classes, regardless of your path. I guess. YMMV. (topic-wise)
Just out of curiosity do you get the job because of your degree or because you acquired shills in design in flash doing that on the side?
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4888
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Posted - 2016.07.02 01:02:00 -
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ANOTHER ONE- don't spend money on expensive razors (Gillette, schick, etc). They are overpriced. But a safety razor and blades. Much much MUCH cheaper and you can get a good clean shave.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
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byte modal
876
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Posted - 2016.07.02 06:42:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:byte modal wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll give you one advise. Don't ever go for a liberal arts degree. I beg to differ! I got arguably one of the most liberal of liberal arts degrees! Fine Art - Studio Painting! Well, maybe behind theater and russian literature. =\ Yeah. we were inundated with drop-outs from every other major thinking they could get a degree in finger painting, but still! I'm working in Gov't Contracting as a result of screwing around with design, flash, and 3dmax! Well. Intermixed with oil painting and sculpture =\ Maybe i'm of the minority. derno. I'm just rambling before getting back to work and this seemed as good a topic to reply to as any. Point: fill in the gaps with usable classes, regardless of your path. I guess. YMMV. (topic-wise) Just out of curiosity do you get the job because of your degree or because you acquired shills in design in flash doing that on the side?
First, the irony of me replying with a specific counter to Maken's generalized statement as compared to my earlier just as general comment on using credit is not lost on me!
Second, that is a tough question to answer. While I earned a foot in the door due to knowing a bit about 3dsmax, flash, photoshop, etc., I do not believe I would have ever ventured into those applications had it not been for the curriculum of my degree, nor would I have had the curiosity and understanding to dig into something so foreign to me at the time (I can only speak for myself).
As a fine art student we shared the same two-year fundamental courses as students in graphic design, illustration, and to a lesser degree architecture. That's six quarters of color theory, 2d/3d drawing, perspective drawing, figure drawing, 2d-design, histories, and related electives that all laid a foundation of design principles that really apply to most anything. For me, learning to observe something, recognize my assumptions of that observed something, then work to change my perspective of that something to see things differently to hopefully find a better way of seeing/doing a new something was a game changer for me. Granted personality plays a role, but they both feed each other.
Those fundamental courses opened doors to software applications I never knew existed. No, they did not teach these applications, but we did use Photoshop. Quark, PageMill (lol?) and FreeHand. I'm talking Photoshop 4: Big Electric Cat days, and that was enough to get the ball rolling. The perspective that my fine art courses taught me helped to really dig into new things to learn new ways of learning. So I taught myself various multimedia programs along the way mostly because I had never seen anything like it before. This was literally my first experience with the internet back in the late 90s. There were no online videos to learn from. It was all just trial and error really. That and books. Anyway, my point is that while my software skills got me in, it was my ability to change my perspective on matters that really helped me troubleshoot problems well before they became problems. That's a universal application if done right. I'm not sure I would have had that without the degree. Not to that level at least.
We have programmers that come and go. They are excellent technically, but lack any sort of empathy towards the end user to really consider what might be most efficient or aesthetically pleasing when developing some online app or whatever. I believe that's a result of their chosen curriculum and attitudes fostered there. Maybe that's a regional thing, but it's what I've noticed. They have the "degree" in a field that should be good choice relative to say mine. They come and go. The guy that was working here when I started could write code and played with Flash Actionscript (as1) and 3dmax. The problem was he never saw the projects as anything but something to get done. Appearance, efficiency, and design were never really part of the effort for him. It was all very sterile and by the numbers. When I came on board I started making things he either couldn't do or wouldn't. This is anecdotal and I'm rambling.
I've been here going on my 16th year. I no longer use Flash or 3dsmax (unfortunately), but I've outlasted literally every other employee except the owner. I can't help but think that the skills learned in my degree program had a strong influence in my survival. It's not for everyone, of course. I think students need to be really smart with how they handle electives regardless of their chosen degree.
Generally, Maken is probably right about his statement and I can reluctantly agree with that. But then we should be considerate to what actually defines success and happiness for the individual. That's not really the point of all this so I'll just shup' here!
It's 2:30am and I've been on the road for about 6 hours. I hope my typing is at least partially on point to what you asked. g'nite!
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1182
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:22:00 -
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byte modal wrote:First, the irony of me replying with a specific counter to Maken's generalized statement as compared to my earlier just as general comment on using credit is not lost on me! Second, that is a tough question to answer. While I earned a foot in the door due to knowing a bit about 3dsmax, flash, photoshop, etc., I do not believe I would have ever ventured into those applications had it not been for the curriculum of my degree, nor would I have had the curiosity and understanding to dig into something so foreign to me at the time (I can only speak for myself). As a fine art student we shared the same two-year fundamental courses as students in graphic design, illustration, and to a lesser degree architecture. That's six quarters of color theory, 2d/3d drawing, perspective drawing, figure drawing, 2d-design, histories, and related electives that all laid a foundation of design principles that really apply to most anything. For me, learning to observe something, recognize my assumptions of that observed something, then work to change my perspective of that something to see things differently to hopefully find a better way of seeing/doing a new something was a game changer for me. Granted personality plays a role, but they both feed each other. Those fundamental courses opened doors to software applications I never knew existed. No, they did not teach these applications, but we did use Photoshop. Quark, PageMill (lol?) and FreeHand. I'm talking Photoshop 4: Big Electric Cat days, and that was enough to get the ball rolling. The perspective that my fine art courses taught me helped to really dig into new things to learn new ways of learning. So I taught myself various multimedia programs along the way mostly because I had never seen anything like it before. This was literally my first experience with the internet back in the late 90s. There were no online videos to learn from. It was all just trial and error really. That and books. Anyway, my point is that while my software skills got me in, it was my ability to change my perspective on matters that really helped me troubleshoot problems well before they became problems. That's a universal application if done right. I'm not sure I would have had that without the degree. Not to that level at least. We have programmers that come and go. They are excellent technically, but lack any sort of empathy towards the end user to really consider what might be most efficient or aesthetically pleasing when developing some online app or whatever. I believe that's a result of their chosen curriculum and attitudes fostered there. Maybe that's a regional thing, but it's what I've noticed. They have the "degree" in a field that should be good choice relative to say mine. They come and go. The guy that was working here when I started could write code and played with Flash Actionscript (as1) and 3dmax. The problem was he never saw the projects as anything but something to get done. Appearance, efficiency, and design were never really part of the effort for him. It was all very sterile and by the numbers. When I came on board I started making things he either couldn't do or wouldn't. This is anecdotal and I'm rambling. I've been here going on my 16th year. I no longer use Flash or 3dsmax (unfortunately), but I've outlasted literally every other employee except the owner. I can't help but think that the skills learned in my degree program had a strong influence in my survival. It's not for everyone, of course. I think students need to be really smart with how they handle electives regardless of their chosen degree. Generally, Maken is probably right about his statement and I can reluctantly agree with that. But then we should be considerate to what actually defines success and happiness for the individual. That's not really the point of all this so I'll just shup' here! It's 2:30am and I've been on the road for about 6 hours. I hope my typing is at least partially on point to what you asked. g'nite!
I had actually totally overlooked that but you make a hilarious point.
I only ask because I never went through any formal education but worked my way up to a great spot through experience. I now do a lot of hiring and management and see some amazing variations in peoples backgrounds and how they grow and develop as they go along. I deal with mostly people that are new to bigger scale programming and design so I am always curious on that. I really wish I could figure out the formula on hiring there I suppose.
It is funny that you bring up the whole programmers and designers cooperation as all in all I find that to be the hardest thing ever. The two groups just seem to think SOOOOO differently that matching up the two sides is always interesting.
I would actually like to talk a little more on the subject. Do you have an Eve character or a friend on Eve I can send my skype to to try to get some more chat going?
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1182
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:24:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:ANOTHER ONE- don't spend money on expensive razors (Gillette, schick, etc). They are overpriced. But a safety razor and blades. Much much MUCH cheaper and you can get a good clean shave.
Dollar shave club for the win.
While I prefer an over priced electric razor DSC is actually not a bad setup.
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axis alpha
ScReWeD uP InC
1161
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Posted - 2016.07.02 07:40:00 -
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Cg bro. My advice is don't **** up. Whether it be your credit your criminal background or whatever. Don't **** up. See you on the other side bruh
Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu.
Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo
Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
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Cresta2000ESP
Dead Man's Game
23
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Posted - 2016.07.02 08:26:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:ANOTHER ONE- don't spend money on expensive razors (Gillette, schick, etc). They are overpriced. But a safety razor and blades. Much much MUCH cheaper and you can get a good clean shave.
And even better,dont shave your beard,use wax
Why?
Multiple uses.Cheap.Lasts longer.Makes your hair thinner
Why not?
It takes some time (like half an hour or so) and it cant be done everyday.Also it let your skin red-ish.
I use it like once a month for the beard and twice for the moustache,and yep,i have finished Highschool too.Im gonna choose the next academic level (here is "bachillerato",lasts 2 years and then the university)
PSN ID: cresta2000
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
1646
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Posted - 2016.07.02 16:54:00 -
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Have a skill or get one, don't break the law and don't get a girl pregnant. Good luck bro and congratulations on getting that diploma. +1
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4888
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Posted - 2016.07.02 17:08:00 -
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Cresta2000ESP wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:ANOTHER ONE- don't spend money on expensive razors (Gillette, schick, etc). They are overpriced. But a safety razor and blades. Much much MUCH cheaper and you can get a good clean shave. And even better,dont shave your beard,use wax Why? Multiple uses.Cheap.Lasts longer.Makes your hair thinner Why not? It takes some time (like half an hour or so) and it cant be done everyday.Also it let your skin red-ish. I use it like once a month for the beard and twice for the moustache,and yep,i have finished Highschool too.Im gonna choose the next academic level (here is "bachillerato",lasts 2 years and then the university)
I actually like more facial hair so I'd prefer shave. But no reason to buy expensive stuff, maybe the cream I would but nit to yet razor.
Get a good pack of like 100+ blades for like what? $10?
I shaved again yesterday after like a month and a half of not shaving. My face feels so free lol
I also just entered junior year in HS
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4888
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Posted - 2016.07.02 17:15:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:ANOTHER ONE- don't spend money on expensive razors (Gillette, schick, etc). They are overpriced. But a safety razor and blades. Much much MUCH cheaper and you can get a good clean shave. Dollar shave club for the win. While I prefer an over priced electric razor DSC is actually not a bad setup.
I guess. $36 a year for the cheapest one isn't bad and they probably last a good 2-3 shaves.
The executive razor tho, SIX DAMN BLADES LIKE WTF
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
7354
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Posted - 2016.07.03 02:49:00 -
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501st Headstrong wrote:Been a hella long road I wanna give a shoutout to all you peeps for the great battles, responsibility of owning corporations, and serving under some AMAZING CEOS. I'll be lurkin around that Alpha test 07 Join me in overwatch on pc, that is my advice |
byte modal
877
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Posted - 2016.07.03 14:12:00 -
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: I had actually totally overlooked that but you make a hilarious point.
I only ask because I never went through any formal education but worked my way up to a great spot through experience. I now do a lot of hiring and management and see some amazing variations in peoples backgrounds and how they grow and develop as they go along. I deal with mostly people that are new to bigger scale programming and design so I am always curious on that. I really wish I could figure out the formula on hiring there I suppose.
It is funny that you bring up the whole programmers and designers cooperation as all in all I find that to be the hardest thing ever. The two groups just seem to think SOOOOO differently that matching up the two sides is always interesting.
I would actually like to talk a little more on the subject. Do you have an Eve character or a friend on Eve I can send my skype to to try to get some more chat going?
I think your situation falls into the same category as mine, and is a good example of how personality, skillset, perseverance, or what have you can be measured greater than the numbers on paper. Gratz to that! I've never been one to label based on a degree or no degree. To be honest, I dropped out during the end of my senior year so technically my degree had nothing to do with my hire. I only just this past fall returned to finish it after having been emplyed for as long as I have. That may change you view on my argument earlier, but i still stand by the idea that it was the philosophies learned in that liberal arts program that gave me perspective enough to know when and how to adapt.
To the difficulties of placing designers and programmers together, i absolutely agree. We have very diferent ways of thinking and communication has inherent walls because of it. It took me nearly a decade to figure out how to translate my ideas to programmer speak. Often times i would have to come in and play to their egos to lower the territorial protectionism some held over their projects. Hey i did it too. That's human nature.
I find it helps to have hybrid developers that either worked for a computer science degree while taking electives in graphic/web design, or designers that also took html or front end dev courses. I see that more in younger hires but it's still rare. They can speak both languages so having them act as translator helps.
For me, it's difficult to speak in abstract concepts to our programmers. I throw ideas out hoping they will toss it back with a new idea like a game of catch, brainstorming and creating associations that might otherwise never be considered. That's a huge process for me to look at other ideas. Even if we don't use them it is good practice to constantly look at something differently. Usually they seem confused expecting a literal "I want this" directive.
That is fine. But usually project managers or especially clients have no concept of development but dictate workflow and priorities. That always bottlenecks halfway through development. Our programmer mindset (really, the employee mindset depending on the environment) is to just do what they're told. Here is a problem. Solve it in this very specific, if somewhat ignorant, way.
It does take a lot of patience before the light goes on, but once the programmer hits their wall and then breaks through, seeing things more abstractly then they are forever changed. That point is different for eveyone. Analogies help. I recently had to use a block of code to demonstrate basic layout principles of hierarchy and white space for a page he was working on. I pointed to how he block-tabs sections of a function partly to keep it visually organized. Then he made that connection to page layout. It's the same logic of structure, just a different format. And it clicked.
It is very hard to make that change. We protect what we learn to believe. Religion, politics, college football, we all lay claim to something and resist anything that counters our understanding of the world. Generally.
For me, 1 out of 10 get the bug and really start asking questions about what they perceive. Mostly, you just have to throw them into a room Thunder Dome style until they start speaking each other's lamguage.
I hire based on how curious they seem and their history of adaptation. The more confident they are the harder it is for me to teach them because from their perspective they already know everything. I'm generalizing
That might help as a lead or middle management but it's still very dependent on personality for me. As i said though, YMMV.
Gah. I can't believe i just thumbed all this out on my phone. Sorry the typos!!
My eve character: Eveyn. Dont laugh at him. I play a few months a year at best and stayed in the starter corp because of it.
*edit* way too many typos.
kitten bacon taco (nom)
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Super Sniper95
House Retirement
894
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Posted - 2016.07.05 00:05:00 -
[47] - Quote
So now that College its around the corner... Party Tips!
-Vodka's hangover is the best than any other liquor. -For each alcoholic beverage that you take, drink a glass of water with ice, so you dont get drunk easily. -Dont EVER mix Rum with Beer. -If you are going to ask for a Martini, ask it "shake it". -Dont EVER drink more than 4 JaggerBombs, or you will literally suffer a heart attack. -The best mix for the Gin is the Tonic Water. -Bloody Mary is the best cocktail for recovering from a hangover. - One glass of white or red wine per day is so healthy as drink 2 liters of wather. -If you are in a party drinking beer, drink it stand up, so you get drunk in a more slowest rate. -If you are drinking without have ate your lunch and dinner, you will probably get drunk faster, no matter what kind of alcoholic beverage. -Do you feel dissy and already drunk? Make yourself throw up (where nobody sees you, obviously). You will recover pretty quick and you will surprise your friends when they see you still up after liters of alcohol (but this is basically like cheating ). -Dont EVER f**k a girl while being sooo drunk, you will not feel anything and will not remember it in the next morning (in many of those cases, it lay down to sleep 2 people and wake up 3). -Vodka taste way better when cold, direct from the fridge. -Red wine is more stronger than the white wine. -The best way to drink Tequila is the traditional one. First taste salt, then take the shot of tequila and suck lemon. -Be careful with the craft beer. Looks and taste good, but its a horse kick. -If you mix Mojitos with Coco Loco or Pi+¦a Colada you will end up with dhiarrea the next morning. -If you get drunk with 2 Margaritas, you failed in life.
And the most important one; If you are drinking and driving, dont forget the car.
'The fancier the gun, the bigger the pussy who owns it'. PubStar®
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10374
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Posted - 2016.07.07 19:59:00 -
[48] - Quote
Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:ANOTHER ONE- don't spend money on expensive razors (Gillette, schick, etc). They are overpriced. But a safety razor and blades. Much much MUCH cheaper and you can get a good clean shave. Dollar shave club for the win. While I prefer an over priced electric razor DSC is actually not a bad setup. I guess. $36 a year for the cheapest one isn't bad and they probably last a good 2-3 shaves. The executive razor tho, SIX DAMN BLADES LIKE WTF I dunno, man. I switched to the Gillette Fusion Pro Glide maybe a year ago (?) and never went back. It's like $40 for 12 sets of blades, though. I shave 1x, maybe 2x a week, so they last me one set per month.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
4335
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Posted - 2016.07.15 11:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
Acquire currency.
Being Romanian is a state of mind.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1199
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Posted - 2016.07.15 11:54:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Acquire currency.
Disregard bitches
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4905
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Posted - 2016.07.15 13:07:00 -
[51] - Quote
Hom-e hoe- stasis.
You have to have a balance between bros and hoes.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 72m SP
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
1201
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Posted - 2016.07.22 07:46:00 -
[52] - Quote
Always strive to learn and advance yourself. Do not ever let anyone tell you that you are wrong unless they can show you concrete proof and even then take that as a learning experience by accepting that you made a mistake and ensuring that you do not make that mistake again.
No matter where you go or what you do there will be people that their main desire is nothing but being disruptive and generally holding others around them back because they already failed at becoming better.
As long as you are logical and take the time to think your decisions through you will step over those people and every one of them that you step over is not only a step in the right direction and a step to the next level but it is a guarantee to yourself that at the end of the day you can live a happier life and better yourself and those who you choose to have around you.
If you do not believe me just look back through the history of Dust and look at the people that never did anything but troll, scam, meta game for their own purpose, and generally make the existence in our little corner of New Eden a worse place for anyone that attempted to join.
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS
535
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Posted - 2016.07.23 13:24:00 -
[53] - Quote
grats! ya no longr a nub m8!
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