Indeed.

It should be kept in mind that he said initially integration will be market-only. If the game continues to grow it's reasonable to assume that the integration will expand along with it, which CCP Rattati has mentioned in interviews.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I remember reading that Nova would be set in the future of EVE, effectively killing any real-time integration with the EVE universe. Granted, I haven't read anything since the initial FF information, but still. Has that changed?

Hm. I just googled that and found a MassivelyOP reference to it being "set in the current EVE lore", for whatever that is defined as: lore only, or actual game play?

Is there a CCP quote somewhere on that topic?

Yeah, I'd put all notions of a grandiose coupling of the two games to the back of your minds. Ain't happening anytime soon and all it does is place too high of an expectation on the game. That was the mistake of the original dev team.

Players have said that the 2014 Fanfest was a disaster with the misfire of the Legion announcement. Thats an easy thing to believe as being the case but the REAL disaster was the previous fanfest's Dust Keynote.

If you watch that now, knowing what we now know, there was literally nothing that was promised or hinted at that ever happened during Dust's lifetime. But the promises of that keynote hung around the neck of the game like a millstone and were never going to happen.

Nova is a new game, from an almost entirely different team. We must avoid trying to place upon them the false hopes from the first game and allow it develop organically as its own entity.

It may be that Nova reaches that destination but it'll follow its own path on the way to that.

Hype is not a bad word, you want people to get excited about your projects, to generate interest and get people to playing (which is especially important in F2P) its only an issue if you're lying out of your arse about what you can achieve.

I'm not saying those features have to be in the game at launch or anywhere near completed, the point is as long as there is roadmap in place and people know the expected timeline then you can sell the grand vision.

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People we 'happy' to endure the bad gameplay because they believed in SoonTM, that was until the Legion announcement turned it into Never

Because it's not going to get made

The problem is CCP did actually promise at least some of this fancy stuff. Maybe they didn't do it in a way that made it cemented in concrete but CCP never honours those sorts of things anyway. CCP did actually say we would be able to walk around in stations. That was the reason for that blasted door that never opens because the station environment is still contaminated. It was supposed to be DE-contaminated once the Walking In Stations was delivered. All the rest hinged on WiS but even that didn't happen. It's not that CCP didn't promise it, it's that they simply didn't deliver.

Well, to my mind, CCP's track record on delivery of anything they talk about* is so bad, I'd think the lot was vapourware until such time as I see it "in the flesh" so to speak. So I think taking anything they say with a hefty bag of salt is only to be expected.

Edit: *Anything they talk about outside of EvE, that is.

Link to green light post plz