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DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1452	Posted - 2016.05.29 16:20:00 - [1] - Quote Strictly for FPS games On consoles, most obviously use a controller. easy and simple, but lacks the precision of a mouse for aiming. On PC, keyboard and mouse is the standard. lots of button for different needs. I find that movement is better with a controller while aiming is better with a mouse. I'd like a hybrid peripheral. a nunchuck for the left hand to control movement, with extra buttons for various needs, while still able to use a mouse for aiming. if you google such a device, youll find that this has been a radical idea for some years. only one such device exists and it was design for console use mainly. https://world.splitfish.com/fragfx-game-controllers/fragfx-fragchuck-pc-mac.html the problem is that this device is YEARS old, and im not even sure if the company is actively producing and supporting the device. I'd like to know why no one else is using something like this for FPS games. I want one, it seems like the step up for me in terms of competitive play. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
ROMULUS H3X research lab 1082	Posted - 2016.05.29 16:39:00 - [2] - Quote Can we just get brain implants yet? FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
CLASSIFIED CLASSIFIED 26	Posted - 2016.05.29 22:35:00 - [3] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: I find that movement is better with a controller while aiming is better with a mouse. I'd like a hybrid peripheral. a nunchuck for the left hand to control movement, with extra buttons for various needs, while still able to use a mouse for aiming. Agreed, but even if such a device were to exist the game itself would have to support it. I know some PC games that only work with either controller or mouse & keyboard, they won't let you use both. Would be nice though. Nudge the control stick slightly to pop out from a corner to aim at your foe, unlike with traditional WASD where you'd press a key and your character walks out of cover and gets shot. Hopefully that kind of setup is supported for Nova. Also as far as those kind of devices goes, here's one that's mixed between a mini keyboard and a control stick: http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g13-advanced-gameboard Real mercs don't show their clone names.
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1698	Posted - 2016.05.29 23:00:00 - [4] - Quote I use the FragFX Shark. It can be switched to be used on a console or in place of a keyboard on a PC. You program the buttons as you want. I believe it is game app independent. It is read like a keyboard. CCP logic GÇô This isn't an actual product. This is only a project. We might not do it at all.
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4818	Posted - 2016.05.29 23:26:00 - [5] - Quote Hmm. I find dust unique in the way that you can actually have effective hipfire, making being a little less accurate good for strafing, cqc, hip fire, etc. with that in mind, it depends on the game. I agree that controller is better for movement. For me personally, I find controller being the master race. CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 70m SP
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 1453	Posted - 2016.05.30 12:05:00 - [6] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: I use the FragFX Shark. It can be switched to be used on a console or in place of a keyboard on a PC. You program the buttons as you want. I believe it is game app independent. It is read like a keyboard. Where did you get yours from? I've been thinking about ordering direct from the company. I've been playing Oveewatch and noticed that you can use both keyboard, mouse, or controller at the same time. The game switches all tool tips from keyboard to controller depending on what you're using.
Ronin Merc Defenders of the Helghast Dream 76	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:26:00 - [7] - Quote Lol better than the steam controller
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 15712	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:32:00 - [8] - Quote Sounds like a good idea for a product. Create a device that works like a joystick but outputs wasd data like a keyboard. I don't think there would be any way to prevent it from being used. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Lightning35 Delta514 Federation Marines 62 4828	Posted - 2016.05.30 15:34:00 - [9] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Sounds like a good idea for a product. Create a device that works like a joystick but outputs wasd data like a keyboard. I don't think there would be any way to prevent it from being used. Think of the dualshock 4 but with repositioned trackpad. CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company Gallente - Freedom - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 70m SP
Operative 1174 Uuali True Companion Planetary Requisitions 1699	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:33:00 - [10] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: I use the FragFX Shark. It can be switched to be used on a console or in place of a keyboard on a PC. You program the buttons as you want. I believe it is game app independent. It is read like a keyboard. Where did you get yours from? I've been thinking about ordering direct from the company. I've been playing Oveewatch and noticed that you can use both keyboard, mouse, or controller at the same time. The game switches all tool tips from keyboard to controller depending on what you're using. I thought I ordered direct. If not, then it would have been Amazon. CCP logic GÇô This isn't an actual product. This is only a project. We might not do it at all.

Mobius Wyvern Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8122	Posted - 2016.05.30 18:35:00 - [11] - Quote I wish they'd make a controller like the Steam Controller except with a trackball instead of a trackpad. I actually played shooters on PC for years with a trackball. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F 2246	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:21:00 - [12] - Quote Even if its PC, I'm using a controller. Why does Photon gear...we will never forget.
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3791	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:37:00 - [13] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Can we just get brain implants yet? actually... take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1071	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:43:00 - [14] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Even if its PC, I'm using a controller. I have a controller I bought to see if I could adapt it to piloting EvE ships. Since then, CCP have actually added real hands-on piloting which is probably only good for something like frigates, but is a good step forward. I'd like to see if I can get my controller working on Nova (or whatever it's eventually called) too. I firmly believe that the mouse is better for aiming, but for everything else, the controller is superior.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F 2246	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:44:00 - [15] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Even if its PC, I'm using a controller. I have a controller I bought to see if I could adapt it to piloting EvE ships. Since then, CCP have actually added real hands-on piloting which is probably only good for something like frigates, but is a good step forward. I'd like to see if I can get my controller working on Nova (or whatever it's eventually called) too. I firmly believe that the mouse is better for aiming, but for everything else, the controller is superior. Yeah I use controllers for any shooter even on pc, TF2 CSGO etc, I cant aint with the best of them but I make up for it with maneuverability. Why does Photon gear...we will never forget.
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1073	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:49:00 - [16] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: ROMULUS H3X wrote: Can we just get brain implants yet? actually... Hmmm, very interesting! I think the VR stuff will be great if it doesn't die an early death because of expense. Being able to think your way around the battlefield will be a definite plus also...
Alena Asakura Rogue Clones Yulai Federation 1073	Posted - 2016.05.30 20:54:00 - [17] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Even if its PC, I'm using a controller. I have a controller I bought to see if I could adapt it to piloting EvE ships. Since then, CCP have actually added real hands-on piloting which is probably only good for something like frigates, but is a good step forward. I'd like to see if I can get my controller working on Nova (or whatever it's eventually called) too. I firmly believe that the mouse is better for aiming, but for everything else, the controller is superior. Yeah I use controllers for any shooter even on pc, TF2 CSGO etc, I cant aint with the best of them but I make up for it with maneuverability. Manoeuvrability is definitely clunkier with KB/M. The high precision of the controller for that purpose makes it superior. The only issue I ever had with the controller in Dust was with aiming. I notice in most of the videos I've seen that people generally don't use the right stick - only use it jerkily for rapid changes of aim. I would always be using it which I think was a problem I would have fixed eventually if the game continued. So when Nova comes to PC, I'm gonna continue to use my controller (a Logitech by the way) and see if I can't refine the aiming issue.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 1427	Posted - 2016.05.30 22:13:00 - [18] - Quote ROMULUS H3X wrote: Can we just get brain implants yet? I know a guy... For 500,000,000 isk I can get you in touch with him... Be aware the procedure requires a screwdriver >__>


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