DUST Search - An undeniable advantage for NOVA on PC : Advertising the gameplay.

LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:

Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:

Weirdly enough though, some games started to include it. Many people want to play with worse graphics, but higher fps, yet very very few games make that possible on consoles. Seriously... with modding coming to consoles and graphic settings making a push, it seems like consoles don't want where they want to go.

Even if they go to a new OS, you could just install that OS on your PC. And well... it worked well enough for Eve Online for the last 13 years... during that time 3 console generations were released.

I wonder why they manage monthly updates in Eve Online then, but in Dust it was one every 3 months. Even hotfixes needed to be checked by sony. Getting your patch approved by Sony takes a long time.

At least on PC I can record more than 30 seconds. Also Shadowplay works not only on Windows 10. And it's not that, magically, streaming takes less resources on consoles. Only difference is: When something doesn't work, you can try to make it work on PC.

LOL. At a minimum moving to a newer OS requires some tweaks to be able to properly use compatibility mode and at the most require major adjustments. Just look at how many programs today still have trouble going from windows 8 to windows 10 at around 2 years after the first beta of windows 10 was released. Developers are also forced to chase the most current versions of directx while trying to keep older versions working which is a bit of a crap shoot. For example right now the newer cards are all using dx12 but there are still millions of people that max out at dx11 thanks to older hardware.

Yea I wonder indeed why they manage monthly updates in Eve but not in Dust. Could it possibly have to do with an amazingly larger team? Maybe it has to do with the fact that Eve is a far more stable code base thanks to them having spent years and years cleaning up things. Hotfixes WERE NOT approved by Sony they were strictly server side updates. Oh and lets not forget that thanks to being stuck on Tranquility Dust could only have server work done in the 15 - 30 minute downtime they were given by the Eve guys, I can not possibly imagine why that would slow up things.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the 30 seconds thing. Go on twitch right now you will find thousands and thousands of people running streams using nothing but the PS4 system. I did not say it takes less resources on console only that console is able to use better tuned default settings and not require the user to tweak frame rates, bandwidth throttling, resolution settings, and lots of other fun settings.

CCPs only problem with Sony is that they take a cut of the money that is processed and they actually hold them to a customer care standard that is in favor of the customer not the company. FF14 showed them that with Sony in charge of the money their screw ups can cost real money.


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Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 3024	Posted - 2016.05.24 07:43:00 - [1] - Quote Undeniable advantages for Nova on PC include, but may not be limited to: Scaleable settings Better hardware and therefor graphics and fps Native K&M support instead of emulation while still having controller support Future proof Not estranging the eve fanbase faster updates due to sony not having to check them Streaming and uploading videos and screenshots is easier Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 3024	Posted - 2016.05.24 10:40:00 - [2] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Scaleable settings -> with console this is not a requirement due to uniform hardware. Weirdly enough though, some games started to include it. Many people want to play with worse graphics, but higher fps, yet very very few games make that possible on consoles. Seriously... with modding coming to consoles and graphic settings making a push, it seems like consoles don't want where they want to go. Quote: future proof -> not really all that true. I will just say that now that the playstation is on the x86 architecture going from one to the next is even more simple than keeping up with PCs which will likely end up with an entirely new OS to deal with even in the lifespan of the PS4 Even if they go to a new OS, you could just install that OS on your PC. And well... it worked well enough for Eve Online for the last 13 years... during that time 3 console generations were released. Quote: faster updates due to sony not having to check them -> again not true at all. Slower updates due to QA needing to be done across several operating systems and hardware configurations to ensure it is atleast going to work for most of the players. In comparison with PS4 you have ONE SYSTEM and ONE OS to test for followed by giving Sony time to do a check to make sure its not going to crash the whole system. I wonder why they manage monthly updates in Eve Online then, but in Dust it was one every 3 months. Even hotfixes needed to be checked by sony. Getting your patch approved by Sony takes a long time. Quote: Streaming and uploading videos and screenshots is easier -> yet again incorrect. if you are on windows 10 they are basically equal thanks to the ps4 and windows 10 both having very easy built in streaming systems. However if you are not on windows 10 you are going to have to download some software and do quite a few settings to make sure the stream does not take up more of your internet than the game. At least on PC I can record more than 30 seconds. Also Shadowplay works not only on Windows 10. And it's not that, magically, streaming takes less resources on consoles. Only difference is: When something doesn't work, you can try to make it work on PC. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit 3024	Posted - 2016.05.24 15:29:00 - [3] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Weirdly enough though, some games started to include it. Many people want to play with worse graphics, but higher fps, yet very very few games make that possible on consoles. Seriously... with modding coming to consoles and graphic settings making a push, it seems like consoles don't want where they want to go. Even if they go to a new OS, you could just install that OS on your PC. And well... it worked well enough for Eve Online for the last 13 years... during that time 3 console generations were released. I wonder why they manage monthly updates in Eve Online then, but in Dust it was one every 3 months. Even hotfixes needed to be checked by sony. Getting your patch approved by Sony takes a long time. At least on PC I can record more than 30 seconds. Also Shadowplay works not only on Windows 10. And it's not that, magically, streaming takes less resources on consoles. Only difference is: When something doesn't work, you can try to make it work on PC. LOL. At a minimum moving to a newer OS requires some tweaks to be able to properly use compatibility mode and at the most require major adjustments. Just look at how many programs today still have trouble going from windows 8 to windows 10 at around 2 years after the first beta of windows 10 was released. Developers are also forced to chase the most current versions of directx while trying to keep older versions working which is a bit of a crap shoot. For example right now the newer cards are all using dx12 but there are still millions of people that max out at dx11 thanks to older hardware. Yea I wonder indeed why they manage monthly updates in Eve but not in Dust. Could it possibly have to do with an amazingly larger team? Maybe it has to do with the fact that Eve is a far more stable code base thanks to them having spent years and years cleaning up things. Hotfixes WERE NOT approved by Sony they were strictly server side updates. Oh and lets not forget that thanks to being stuck on Tranquility Dust could only have server work done in the 15 - 30 minute downtime they were given by the Eve guys, I can not possibly imagine why that would slow up things. I have no idea what you are talking about with the 30 seconds thing. Go on twitch right now you will find thousands and thousands of people running streams using nothing but the PS4 system. I did not say it takes less resources on console only that console is able to use better tuned default settings and not require the user to tweak frame rates, bandwidth throttling, resolution settings, and lots of other fun settings. CCPs only problem with Sony is that they take a cut of the money that is processed and they actually hold them to a customer care standard that is in favor of the customer not the company. FF14 showed them that with Sony in charge of the money their screw ups can cost real money. I didn't have any problems at all though. I also haven't read from many people that they have problems swtiching from 8 to 10. Weird! Also future proof means that you can upgrade your PC... you can't upgrade a console but instead have to wait for a new iteration of the console. THis would hold the game back. Yes... using newer technology means future proof. For some reason you can still play games with DirectX11 too though. Maybe it has to do with Sony needing to check patches, like CCP has mentioned very often? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!