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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
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Posted - 2016.05.08 21:42:00 -
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Just curious. |
CallMeNoName
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2016.05.08 22:10:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Just curious.
514 = 5/14 , Public release date. |
Draxus Prime
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2016.05.08 22:49:00 -
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CallMeNoName wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Just curious. 514 = 5/14 , Public release date. it was named 514 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the release
"Spilling floor cleaner only makes the floor cleaner." - Draxus Prime
Closed Beta Vet
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Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
1016
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Posted - 2016.05.08 22:53:00 -
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CCP 1: "Guys, 'Dust' is a boring title. We need some arbitrary numbers to give it mystery and meaningless complexity."
CCP 2: *walks in* "Hey guys, when's Uprising gonna launch? I forgot."
CCP 1: "That's a great idea, you're getting a promotion!"
See, I think it goes deeper than that. Especially since 514 was there long before the official release. Someday the devs will enlighten us.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
7256
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Posted - 2016.05.08 22:54:00 -
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Draxus Prime wrote:CallMeNoName wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Just curious. 514 = 5/14 , Public release date. it was named 514 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the release 514 is the amount of times a person can die before his clone starts going mad |
danthrax martin
Bad Blueberries
963
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Posted - 2016.05.08 23:14:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Draxus Prime wrote:CallMeNoName wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Just curious. 514 = 5/14 , Public release date. it was named 514 waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before the release 514 is the amount of times a person can die before his clone starts going mad Man that means I'm , uh, well... (Inserts boot in mouth)
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Scotty is the Walrus
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1950
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Posted - 2016.05.08 23:54:00 -
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In the blurb for the templar one novel its used in a manner that makes it sound like a mission/protocol code. soemthing lik 'protocol 514 has been initiated' can't remember exactly.
Find me in the new world or PSN: LaughlynVaughns
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General Vahzz
781
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Posted - 2016.05.09 01:45:00 -
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514...514....514...514 514 514 514 514 514.....
I have OBs in my pockets, just waiting to drop some insulting bombs on your plebiscite asses.
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breakfree
ZEN KILL Society
12
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Posted - 2016.05.09 02:03:00 -
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911 was busted |
LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
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Posted - 2016.05.09 02:17:00 -
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So, nothing was mentioned, huh? Nice. |
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Niarudi
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.09 04:51:00 -
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ok. so I haven't bothered with Dust 514 for a long time, (and only messed around here and there after the rouge wedding), but I used to be on a lot on my main account and all the numerous alts I made (although, now, this is my main account). For awhile I even ran a "lore" survey team corporation. btw, most of our findings were deleted, thrown away, or we just stopped caring.
Dust 514 had a couple of uses. Several were just slang or codes the development team used (and most will remain in obscurity forever unless a dev bothers to respond).
It was also used as a promotional event, as the official release of Dust 514. Also, and I'm not going to bother looking up the dates, but if memory serves, it also had something to do with the release of the ill-fated Legion.
Story-wise, and it's been so long since I've destroyed my notes, so sorry if I can't remember the proper names, But!!!
the races (I think the Amarr did it first) figured out how to make clones using alien technology that they found from a highly advanced race of beings they called the sleepers. The sleepers had given up their physical life and entered a different form of existence (can't remember if it was something spiritual or some sort of VR world).
What we were doing was harvesting their body for an implant that existed inside their brain. This implant allowed the use of our minds to travel large distances in an instant, making clones possible. That's why, when you die, you instantly "wake" up in your new body. Some theories point to 514 being a reference to this implant.
Anyways, without meaning to, we were actually doing mass genocide to the sleepers. But also, we had inadvertently opened ourselves up to the "one" (lol. I don't know what it was called, but I'm just going to call it the "one" because it is spoopy).
This being might have been a sleeper at one point. Or it could have been created in the alternate world. Or have been something else entirely. But it could body hop and take control of people who had this implant, and it was the enemy (satan?) of the sleepers.
The Templars were created and they were the first clones. Everything was going well, until the "one" decided to exert control over some of them. The sudden "psychic" backlash the clones had resulted in them going mad, killing everyone around them, and scrawling "514" in blood on walls and stuff and then they either killed themselves or were killed. The 514 was the Templars trying to warn everyone what they had just experienced, but having gone crazy, it was the best they could do.
Lots of theories on what 514 actually means. (also some nice biblical verses coincide with it) but generally the survey team came to the conclusion that the 5 meant something to do with the implant/ or the sleepers, the 1 was the being, and the 4 were the four remaining races that were in danger now, because we opened pandora's box.
Then the game happened, the Empress cloned herself, got possessed, and Legion was supposed to take off with (possibly referencing the One, now exerting control, and essentially making itself "legion").
mystery (sort of) solved. hope you like it.
when she was good, she was very good indeed,
but when she was bad she shot you in the face.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
22445
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Posted - 2016.05.09 11:20:00 -
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I always liked to believe it related to two primary lore points. The first is a verse from The Book of Mission which goes like this....
Which test reveals more of the soul - the test that a man will take to prove his faith. or the test that finds the man who believed his faith already proven? If you know this answer, then you also know which of these challenges bear the greatest penalty for failure, The gates of paradise will open for you one time only; woe to the soul who dares to knock twice.' -Book of Missions, 5:14, The Scriptures
As a reference to the perceived sin of Immortality amongst the Amarr as well as a nod to the 51st Exploration Corps of the Amarr Empire who discovered the first of these implants in ruins in orbit of the Ni Kanno homeworld of Mishi IV.
Waves that dye the land gold.
Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat.
A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
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Niarudi
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.05.09 17:26:00 -
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it's also that too. lol.
tbh, and my personal opinion too, I think the Developers thought 514 sounded cool, and had a few interesting coincidences that already existed in-game, such as the Amarr verse (and a few bliblical verses as well) and decided to run with it.
Everything after that was the developers trying to find more things to connect to the possible meaning of "514" in the event that any of the players cared. It would sort of become its own "meta game" with false trails, misinformation, coincidences, a spoopy story, and real world applications.
The problem with Dust 514 though, is it barely had any story in-game (although the Eve story itself is pretty big and deep), so most players didn't have a reason to invest time and effort into finding the "truth" behind the numbers.
and you're right, it is a sin to be cloned, which is why the Empress did it in secret (although it opened herself up in the process, making herself, arguably, the most dangerous being in the Eve universe)
when she was good, she was very good indeed,
but when she was bad she shot you in the face.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
2266
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Posted - 2016.05.10 15:39:00 -
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It's called 514 because just saying "514" makes you feel like a badass.
#ProjectNOVA is upon us!
May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't. - George S. Patton Jr.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Imperium Eden
4497
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Posted - 2016.05.10 17:14:00 -
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Copy and paste from an old thread I made about EVE Vegas:
"Now the other question-answer that every player wants to know; my question from the Lore Round Table: Q. "After the party last night and especially after the Pub Crawl, I woke up in a strange room with '514' written on the walls in blood. Would you please tell us what the hell 514 means?"
From the lips of CCP Falcon, the guy that wrote it:
"Nope!"
"You are a rat bastard..."
"I know; it is one of my better qualities."
I did get a hint from him though after the RT: "Look into the heritage of the Caldari."
5 Winds? 1 Maker? No idea."
And from people that knew what it meant, they all said "it isn't nearly as interesting as you think it is."
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
4650
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Posted - 2016.05.11 02:12:00 -
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Niarudi wrote:ok. so I haven't bothered with Dust 514 for a long time, (and only messed around here and there after the rouge wedding), but I used to be on a lot on my main account and all the numerous alts I made (although, now, this is my main account). For awhile I even ran a "lore" survey team corporation. btw, most of our findings were deleted, thrown away, or we just stopped caring.
Dust 514 had a couple of uses. Several were just slang or codes the development team used (and most will remain in obscurity forever unless a dev bothers to respond).
It was also used as a promotional event, as the official release of Dust 514. Also, and I'm not going to bother looking up the dates, but if memory serves, it also had something to do with the release of the ill-fated Legion.
Story-wise, and it's been so long since I've destroyed my notes, so sorry if I can't remember the proper names, But!!!
the races (I think the Amarr did it first) figured out how to make clones using alien technology that they found from a highly advanced race of beings they called the sleepers. The sleepers had given up their physical life and entered a different form of existence (can't remember if it was something spiritual or some sort of VR world).
What we were doing was harvesting their body for an implant that existed inside their brain. This implant allowed the use of our minds to travel large distances in an instant, making clones possible. That's why, when you die, you instantly "wake" up in your new body. Some theories point to 514 being a reference to this implant.
Anyways, without meaning to, we were actually doing mass genocide to the sleepers. But also, we had inadvertently opened ourselves up to the "one" (lol. I don't know what it was called, but I'm just going to call it the "one" because it is spoopy).
This being might have been a sleeper at one point. Or it could have been created in the alternate world. Or have been something else entirely. But it could body hop and take control of people who had this implant, and it was the enemy (satan?) of the sleepers.
The Templars were created and they were the first clones. Everything was going well, until the "one" decided to exert control over some of them. The sudden "psychic" backlash the clones had resulted in them going mad, killing everyone around them, and scrawling "514" in blood on walls and stuff and then they either killed themselves or were killed. The 514 was the Templars trying to warn everyone what they had just experienced, but having gone crazy, it was the best they could do.
Lots of theories on what 514 actually means. (also some nice biblical verses coincide with it) but generally the survey team came to the conclusion that the 5 meant something to do with the implant/ or the sleepers, the 1 was the being, and the 4 were the four remaining races that were in danger now, because we opened pandora's box.
Then the game happened, the Empress cloned herself, got possessed, and Legion was supposed to take off with (possibly referencing the One, now exerting control, and essentially making itself "legion").
mystery (sort of) solved. hope you like it. 5 = S for Sleeper 1 = The One 4 = Races...
Or it's SIA, which is "Sleeper Implant AAAaghhhh!"
I am the Anti-FoTM
Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
4650
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Posted - 2016.05.11 02:17:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Copy and paste from an old thread I made about EVE Vegas:
"Now the other question-answer that every player wants to know; my question from the Lore Round Table: Q. "After the party last night and especially after the Pub Crawl, I woke up in a strange room with '514' written on the walls in blood. Would you please tell us what the hell 514 means?"
From the lips of CCP Falcon, the guy that wrote it:
"Nope!"
"You are a rat bastard..."
"I know; it is one of my better qualities."
I did get a hint from him though after the RT: "Look into the heritage of the Caldari."
5 Winds? 1 Maker? No idea."
And from people that knew what it meant, they all said "it isn't nearly as interesting as you think it is." Caldari heritage... Hmmm...
So backwards, 514 is 415. If we add it, it is 4 + 1 = 5. As in there were 4 races originally (Gallente, Minmatar, Amarr, and Jove), +1 race, the Caldari, stemming from the Gallente, making 5 races.
See? Not very interesting and has to do with Caldari heritage.
I am the Anti-FoTM
Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
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Kayla Queen
State Innovative Security Inc.
9
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Posted - 2016.05.11 04:47:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Just curious.
I was thinking the samething. 514 can't just be meaningless digits. Since digits are symbols of numeric values or have a nominal purpose. Maybe 514 means something to do with a time line or the the number of crew that worked on this game at it's first time launching. It can mean anything, the closest I can assume it has to do with the book called Templar One.
Your security is our security
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sir RAVEN WING
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
6021
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Posted - 2016.05.11 15:10:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote: the Caldari, stemming from the Gallente, making 5 races.
LUGMOS, mate, the Caldari didn't come from the Gallente. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7849
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Posted - 2016.05.11 15:50:00 -
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I always thought it was the original plan for players fighting on a district.
256v256 +2 eve players in orbit= 514
The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
4652
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Posted - 2016.05.12 00:56:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:LUGMOS wrote: the Caldari, stemming from the Gallente, making 5 races.
LUGMOS, mate, the Caldari didn't come from the Gallente. O god I failed... You're right...
I am the Anti-FoTM
Fear my Cal Assault and Amarr Scout!
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LT SHANKS
You In The Nutz
6214
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Posted - 2016.05.12 03:39:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:LUGMOS wrote: the Caldari, stemming from the Gallente, making 5 races.
LUGMOS, mate, the Caldari didn't come from the Gallente. O god I failed... You're right... I give you props. It's seldom for one to admit he or she is wrong on the internet.
On another, Devs, please tell us. Pleeeaaasssee.... |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
22465
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Posted - 2016.05.12 08:02:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:LUGMOS wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:LUGMOS wrote: the Caldari, stemming from the Gallente, making 5 races.
LUGMOS, mate, the Caldari didn't come from the Gallente. O god I failed... You're right... I give you props. It's seldom for one to admit he or she is wrong on the internet. On another, Devs, please tell us. Pleeeaaasssee....
Actually they kind of did. Caldari Prime being as harsh as it was hadn't allowed the Caldari to progress to a respectable technological level. The Gallente you can argue shaped that modern Caldari through their inclusion in the Federation.
Waves that dye the land gold.
Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat.
A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
9746
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Posted - 2016.05.12 20:09:00 -
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No, it has not been. Likely never will be.
There are some things you'll just never know.
CCP Logibro // Patron Saint of Logistics // Distributor of Nanites
(a¦á_a¦á)
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
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Posted - 2016.05.12 20:22:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:No, it has not been. Likely never will be.
There are some things you'll just never know.
Trololololol
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 69m SP
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Marston VC
Sver true blood RUST415
1855
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Posted - 2016.05.12 21:12:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:No, it has not been. Likely never will be.
There are some things you'll just never know.
Holy crap! I miss you!
Marston VC, STB Director
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Foehammerr
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
237
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Posted - 2016.05.13 02:50:00 -
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The closest thing you will ever find (as far as an explanation goes) is an old chronicle from 2013 about the Battle of Caldari Prime. The first generation clones were created using Sleeper implants, and quite a few were defective. Something would trigger the implants, and like a switch, the soldier using them would go insane and go on a mass killing spree disregarding whether they were allies or enemies. Eventually, they would all die permanently (either through self-inflicted wounds or by being shot by another) as they would not be able to transfer their consciousness to a new body. But before they died, they would write 514 with their blood. Clone soldiers who were triggered were described as "Going 514".
Or something like that.
De Opresso Liber
Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
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Stupid Blueberry
The Parallax II Hypersleep Dialogues
1332
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Posted - 2016.05.13 02:53:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:No, it has not been. Likely never will be.
There are some things you'll just never know.
514k years between the eve gate collapse and templar one. Duh.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Orbital Laser S is hot.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
15492
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Posted - 2016.05.13 02:55:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:No, it has not been. Likely never will be.
There are some things you'll just never know. Look who found the forums!
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Stupid Blueberry
The Parallax II Hypersleep Dialogues
1332
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Posted - 2016.05.13 02:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:LUGMOS wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:LUGMOS wrote: the Caldari, stemming from the Gallente, making 5 races.
LUGMOS, mate, the Caldari didn't come from the Gallente. O god I failed... You're right... I give you props. It's seldom for one to admit he or she is wrong on the internet. On another, Devs, please tell us. Pleeeaaasssee.... Actually they kind of did. Caldari Prime being as harsh as it was hadn't allowed the Caldari to progress to a respectable technological level. The Gallente you can argue shaped that modern Caldari through their inclusion in the Federation.
Vice versa applies as well. The Caldari just wanted to be left alone.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Orbital Laser S is hot.
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