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Juno Tristan wrote:My concern is that you need people to buy into the vision and CCP are not selling it well, what they are currently offering is pretty generic
Wanting to dial back expectations after what was promised with Dust is fair enough, but they've gone too far and they risk creating no excitement about the product outside of existing players
Basically I want all the features of EVE except my fighting is done with a laser rifle.
I'm sure there is just a teeny bit more going on.
1) EVE didn't happen so fast.
2) Whoever plays NOTLegion/Nova will evolve with the game, or not. Catering to DUST player mentality is kind of irrelevant in the long run (sadly). The game is already different than what we had yesterday, and will be different even still tomorrow. We either go with it, or leave. New players with new expectations will come and go. Ideally though, a long-term community will develop and stick it out through the thick and thin. Current forum buzz gives me doubt that will be us.
3) In that view, it will be impossible to straddle a line promising the moon (already tried that route) when they're only able to deliver in tiny increments. Players will revolt in the perception of empty promises (as has happened and continues to happen), and simply not endure the patience needed to see larger-scale visions come to be. CCP will then carry a massive black eye and community perception by vets will be of failure. That will be seen by any potentially new player as incompetence effectively pushing any new blood away. Sell a new player on a pipe dream coming 5 years from now? Or be practical, based on hard lessons learned, and project honest obtainable milestones?
4) Features can come in stages, as long as the foundation and core mechanics are sound. Preparing for the future does not mean build the future today in one effort. On the other hand, if that is what is truly desired, then CCP should keep a strict closed door to the community (IMHO). There's no need to brainstorm fantasy objectives knowing that they cannot met 30+% of them. Again, that will be another blemish if all these hypothetical ideas are distributed to the community. Those ideas will undoubtedly be taken as a promise list of featured release notes and, when cut, another revolt will ensue.
5) Presentation was a proof of concept to spark interest and to measure player feedback---that's player feedback from those that played the demo proper, and not second-hand rants (i.e., the dust community in general).
D) I suggest, again, that we stop assuming that this demonstration of concept represents the long-term end game of development. Dialing back for the sake of simplifying development to show a demo does not mean obliterating any possibility of MMO or EVE integration. While I concede that at the end of the day when NOVA is at its final stage for release those features may not exist, I cannot stress enough that we must stop assuming that possibility is the only outcome. Based on the information available to us, we have no idea. Let's all stop pretending we do?
Basically, I too want all the features of EVE, except in my case I prefer the HMG. I see nothing presented here that says that is never going to happen in the longer term development. That is assuming all of our fussing here doesn't echo to the higher-ups effectively overpowering any true positive influence and traction this "game" might otherwise get. It's the squeaky wheel that get's the oil and all that. Just, in this case, we don't get oil. We get shut down because overwhelming opinions are negative.
But I'm just a scrub, so take that with a grain of salt.
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