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xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3713	Posted - 2016.03.18 19:13:00 - [1] - Quote http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053 Well, if you stop and think about it, it is not really something new: ps4 is much better than ps3 but still not enough powerful to compete with a gaming PC, not even close. Things will probably change a little bit, considering that if the new upgrade/console is capable of a 4k output for games even at "only" 30 frames per seconds it would be a huge step in narrowing the gap between consoles and PCs. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Lt Royal Subdreddit 3170	Posted - 2016.03.18 19:35:00 - [2] - Quote Pretty silly considering the price of 4K monitors ATM. With the price of a PS4 and a 4k monitor you could get a really beastly gaming PC for that kind of ISK! Gÿ£Gÿ¡GÿP ------- Gÿ£Gÿ¡GÿP
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4569	Posted - 2016.03.18 19:38:00 - [3] - Quote What would be the point? CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our conquest of Molden Heath today! Amarr Heavy/Light Frame
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3714	Posted - 2016.03.18 19:46:00 - [4] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Pretty silly considering the price of 4K monitors ATM. With the price of a PS4 and a 4k monitor you could get a really beastly gaming PC for that kind of ISK! Well, this does not only mean that the "new" ps4 will be capable of 4k, but it could also be simply more "powerful". take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3714	Posted - 2016.03.18 19:56:00 - [5] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: What would be the point? If you're asking what would be the point of an upgrade, I can think at two reasons mainly: The first and more obvious one is that ps4 will need all that power for VR. The second is more like just my speculation: Sony is making a huge part of its income with Playstation but the consoles market in general is losing their old spot of favourite gaming machine, since you can build more powerful PCs for the same price. Considering that I believe Sony doesn't really want to be left behind in the gaming industry they're probably pushing this "new" ps4 to compete directly with medium-high gaming PCs. Much like what happened with ps2 and ps3. If you're asking what is the point of the topic, I don't know, I just wanted to let the Dust Community know. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
XxBlazikenxX Kylo's Fist 4570	Posted - 2016.03.18 20:01:00 - [6] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: What would be the point? If you're asking what would be the point of an upgrade, I can think at two reasons mainly: The first and more obvious one is that ps4 will need all that power for VR. The second is more like just my speculation: Sony is making a huge part of its income with Playstation but the consoles market in general is losing their old spot of favourite gaming machine, since you can build more powerful PCs for the same price. Considering that I believe Sony doesn't really want to be left behind in the gaming industry they're probably pushing this "new" ps4 to compete directly with medium-high gaming PCs. Much like what happened with ps2 and ps3. If you're asking what is the point of the topic, I don't know, I just wanted to let the Dust Community know. But why not just go ahead and build a PS5 instead of making a brand new PS4? CEO of Kylo's Fist // Pub Chat: The First Order Join us in our conquest of Molden Heath today! Amarr Heavy/Light Frame
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3716	Posted - 2016.03.18 20:08:00 - [7] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: What would be the point? If you're asking what would be the point of an upgrade, I can think at two reasons mainly: The first and more obvious one is that ps4 will need all that power for VR. The second is more like just my speculation: Sony is making a huge part of its income with Playstation but the consoles market in general is losing their old spot of favourite gaming machine, since you can build more powerful PCs for the same price. Considering that I believe Sony doesn't really want to be left behind in the gaming industry they're probably pushing this "new" ps4 to compete directly with medium-high gaming PCs. Much like what happened with ps2 and ps3. If you're asking what is the point of the topic, I don't know, I just wanted to let the Dust Community know. But why not just go ahead and build a PS5 instead of making a brand new PS4? Well, I guess pretty much all ps4 owners would rage hard . Maybe it's "just" an upgrade, which would make sense since something like this was rumored a couple months ago. They probably released ps4 thinking that it would have been more than enough for 5-6 years, but now they're probably changing they mind, rightfully imo. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 786	Posted - 2016.03.19 01:19:00 - [8] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Pretty silly considering the price of 4K monitors ATM. With the price of a PS4 and a 4k monitor you could get a really beastly gaming PC for that kind of ISK! 30 hz 4k TVs are pretty cheap these days. The jump to 60hz @ 4k tho is pretty heavy duty. That price tag can get insane. As for Sony releasing a PS4.5 I think that boosts their revenue but seriously hurts their fight against the PC. It only shows the weakness in consoles not being able to be upgraded without buying a whole new system and makes people question if an "upgraded version" every few years will be a new trend. Personally I would be somewhat unhappy. I would not be mad at Sony as they have to do what is necessary to keep up but this would be a little bit of a dump on PS4 owners being forced to buy a whole new console because Sony cut corners the first time around to beat microsoft on pricing and release timing. Leading early adopters to believe they may have to speed up their buying cycle could have some negative consequences. Just look at how much it hurt Apple getting into a constant cycle of a new phone every X amount of months. People quickly caught on and said screw it I will just buy the second newest one, used, at a cheaper price but with less early adopters the second hand market was hurt as well causing them to lose momentum in a fairly big way. If anything this a move to push more 4k TVs on people which in turn gives them the ability to charge higher costs for movies and such in 4k but that is totally speculative. I would call this vertical integration at its finest.
byte modal 608	Posted - 2016.03.19 02:42:00 - [9] - Quote Ya. No idea, but it seems like a move to attract the users that primarily bought the ps3 as an entertainment hub +bluray, with gaming as a secondary priority. "Oh? This thing can out 4k now? Wow that's shiney and new!" Too, it seems like the next evolutionary step for sales. Gamers buy a partially developed game on pre-order, then pay for it all over again with secondary DLC that really should have been in the initial release. Model works, so why not test the waters in hardware too? Tweak some thing or another and sell it all over again with possibly less overhead. People will buy anything anymore it seems. Seller's market, unless it backfires. But i doubt it. I guess the economy could crash from all the credit spenders.... Iderno. kitten bacon taco (nom)
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6332	Posted - 2016.03.19 04:05:00 - [10] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053 Well, if you stop and think about it, it is not really something new: ps4 is much better than ps3 but still not enough powerful to compete with a gaming PC, not even close. Things will probably change a little bit, considering that if the new upgrade/console is capable of a 4k output for games even at "only" 30 frames per seconds it would be a huge step in narrowing the gap between consoles and PCs. Frame rate > resolution This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.

xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3717	Posted - 2016.03.19 04:15:00 - [11] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053 Well, if you stop and think about it, it is not really something new: ps4 is much better than ps3 but still not enough powerful to compete with a gaming PC, not even close. Things will probably change a little bit, considering that if the new upgrade/console is capable of a 4k output for games even at "only" 30 frames per seconds it would be a huge step in narrowing the gap between consoles and PCs. Frame rate > resolution it does indeed. But many developers could still opt for a 60 fps at 1080. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 6333	Posted - 2016.03.19 07:30:00 - [12] - Quote They could, and they should. Sadly they are more likely to chase industry-driven gimmicks and Sony is doing us no favors with this. This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 788	Posted - 2016.03.19 08:57:00 - [13] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053 Well, if you stop and think about it, it is not really something new: ps4 is much better than ps3 but still not enough powerful to compete with a gaming PC, not even close. Things will probably change a little bit, considering that if the new upgrade/console is capable of a 4k output for games even at "only" 30 frames per seconds it would be a huge step in narrowing the gap between consoles and PCs. Frame rate > resolution it does indeed. But many developers could still opt for a 60 fps at 1080. Frame rate comes at a higher premium than resolution with today's technology thanks to cheap low clock pixels. VSYNC and perfectly stable frame rates matter far more than what your maximum FPS is. Theoretically a machine that can run 4k @ 30hz should be able to push out an amazingly consistent 60 - 120 hz at 1080p depending on the game itself so that would excite me a bit more than the 4k aspect. I play at 2560x1440 @ 60hz on my PC with no noticeable screen tearing, rate drops (aside from a few super high requirement games where I have to drop to 1080p), or motion blur so I feel like this is where I would like to see the PS4(.5?) land at. Even in a world where it reaches that perfect scenario for me I would have to seriously consider if I want to spend that money on a new console when that $400 - $500 would probably go real nice towards a GPU upgrade that is guaranteed to not be totally obsolete in a few years as would happen with the PS4 if this new version was released. Side Note: I wonder how this would be setup for developers. If it really is a different architecture that makes things a bit interesting with game releases and would not be quite as simple as just increasing the BLANK setting for the game before sending it out. Thanks to Sony making the PS4 a much cleaner architecture than the PS3 developers were already starting to hit their stride on optimizing games to this system so this also sets them back a couple of years and potentially costs lots more time and money slowing down or killing off some releases. I do not see how anyone would benefit from this at all besides Sony. Consumers are baited into buying a new console, and possibly a new screen only to have to pay more for premium content. Developers get divided across versions thanks to costs and release cycle constraints and in a budget crunch could have to decide which version they want to optimize for leaving a less satisfactory out come on the other. Sony collects more money on premium content, more money on multiple version releases, more money for yet another console, and even potentially more money on selling customers new TVs. I feel the blatant cash grab alarm starting to sound in my mind.
byte modal 611	Posted - 2016.03.19 12:41:00 - [14] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: ... I do not see how anyone would benefit from this at all besides Sony. Consumers are baited into buying a new console, and possibly a new screen only to have to pay more for premium content. ..... Sony collects more money on premium content, more money on multiple version releases, more money for yet another console, and even potentially more money on selling customers new TVs. I feel the blatant cash grab alarm starting to sound in my mind. Hm. I... hm.... .... I think the apocalypse may be upon us. Trump may become president, and I ......find myself agreeing with your posts lately. o.O I am now glad I never had a child. I'm not sure I would want them growing up in a world like this. (lol) kitten bacon taco (nom)
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19536	Posted - 2016.03.19 15:38:00 - [15] - Quote It's more likely that this is simply giving it the ability to output in 4K, by giving it a newer HDMI standard. PS4 doesn't currently support 4k output since the HDMI standard on the PS4 is incapable of that. It doesn't mean it will be able to render games in 4k reasonably, it will probably be there to watch Netflix in 4k and other such things. Expect a PS4 Slim with 4k video output in this E3. Easy PC building guide
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 6905	Posted - 2016.03.19 17:25:00 - [16] - Quote I already have a PC that easily does 4K..I was disappointed with this gens consoles so I moved to PC..consoles aren't my forte anymore, they do have nice controllers though
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 789	Posted - 2016.03.19 21:26:00 - [17] - Quote byte modal wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: ... I do not see how anyone would benefit from this at all besides Sony. Consumers are baited into buying a new console, and possibly a new screen only to have to pay more for premium content. ..... Sony collects more money on premium content, more money on multiple version releases, more money for yet another console, and even potentially more money on selling customers new TVs. I feel the blatant cash grab alarm starting to sound in my mind. Hm. I... hm.... .... I think the apocalypse may be upon us. Trump may become president, and I ......find myself agreeing with your posts lately. o.O I am now glad I never had a child. I'm not sure I would want them growing up in a world like this. (lol) I'm glad you feel that way. I am also disgruntled with me agreeing with myself and very uncomfortable with the thought of a certain person who has no answers for anything being the leader of the free world. I cant decide which is worse a narcissist idiot or a menopausal socialist (you cant even tell which dem I am talking about can you?) Anyway, I just thought I would congratulate you on your abstaining from impregnating someone as I also agree that no one should be brought into the currently pending crap storm of who knows wtf is going to happen. I believe this is why VR and AR are making great pushes because people actually believe it will wipe away their current reality.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7757	Posted - 2016.03.20 00:13:00 - [18] - Quote Between this and the New 3DS, console gaming is going in a BAD direction. You're buying an entirely new console that's only slightly better than the last one, but it doesn't matter for almost any game you play, because they're optimized for the old one anyway. That's a painfully obvious scam. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 790	Posted - 2016.03.20 09:06:00 - [19] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Between this and the New 3DS, console gaming is going in a BAD direction. You're buying an entirely new console that's only slightly better than the last one, but it doesn't matter for almost any game you play, because they're optimized for the old one anyway. That's a painfully obvious scam. Indeed. Assuming this is true Sony could not pick a worse time to do this. I feel like many people will take a look at PC and the PC based consoles like the Alienware Alpha which can both be upgraded along the way as oppose to having to start over on another new system over and over.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7761	Posted - 2016.03.20 16:29:00 - [20] - Quote LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Between this and the New 3DS, console gaming is going in a BAD direction. You're buying an entirely new console that's only slightly better than the last one, but it doesn't matter for almost any game you play, because they're optimized for the old one anyway. That's a painfully obvious scam. Indeed. Assuming this is true Sony could not pick a worse time to do this. I feel like many people will take a look at PC and the PC based consoles like the Alienware Alpha which can both be upgraded along the way as oppose to having to start over on another new system over and over. Or if they're really adamant at having a console, they could buy a Steam Machine, because you can upgrade the hardware on those yourself instead of just buying the next best one that comes out. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled

LOOKMOM NOHANDS 796	Posted - 2016.03.20 16:38:00 - [21] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Between this and the New 3DS, console gaming is going in a BAD direction. You're buying an entirely new console that's only slightly better than the last one, but it doesn't matter for almost any game you play, because they're optimized for the old one anyway. That's a painfully obvious scam. Indeed. Assuming this is true Sony could not pick a worse time to do this. I feel like many people will take a look at PC and the PC based consoles like the Alienware Alpha which can both be upgraded along the way as oppose to having to start over on another new system over and over. Or if they're really adamant at having a console, they could buy a Steam Machine, because you can upgrade the hardware on those yourself instead of just buying the next best one that comes out. The Alienware Alpha is just one of the many versions of a Steam Machine as far as I know. It seems like there is a new term every day which I just ignore the ones that do not affect me. I only know the Alienware because that was my last resort on trying to get a friend to finally leave console behind (unsuccessfully). Now that they have finally announced a VR / AR device I am interested in I am pretty impartial to the whole argument.
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2138	Posted - 2016.03.21 14:09:00 - [22] - Quote I just took a look at Alienware Alpha and it's trash. Better build your own gaming PC at this price range. You'll get much better perf ! Game over.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 796	Posted - 2016.03.21 14:15:00 - [23] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: I just took a look at Alienware Alpha and it's trash. Better build your own gaming PC at this price range. You'll get much better perf ! Totally agreed, it is just meant to be a stepping stone for console gamers who are oddly afraid of PC and even more so of building one. I have actually been looking at doing some micro atx / mini itx builds in a custom case to try to capitalize on this market that is evolving right in front of us. There is certainly money to be made there thanks to console gamers wanting to get away from console but being totally clueless to the PC area.
Scheneighnay McBob Penumbra or something 7763	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:07:00 - [24] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: I just took a look at Alienware Alpha and it's trash. Better build your own gaming PC at this price range. You'll get much better perf ! That's the thing: Steam Machines are the OS, not the hardware. You can build your own Steam Machine completely from scratch- you aren't limited to buying the Alpha. The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 801	Posted - 2016.03.21 22:44:00 - [25] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Sequal's Back wrote: I just took a look at Alienware Alpha and it's trash. Better build your own gaming PC at this price range. You'll get much better perf ! That's the thing: Steam Machines are the OS, not the hardware. You can build your own Steam Machine completely from scratch- you aren't limited to buying the Alpha. This guy gets it. That actually kind of clears up how I was looking at them as well. I felt like steam machine was more referring to the console type template and did not realize it was an actual OS. Anyone can hit me up I will sell you a totally custom steam machine tomorrow with only a $100 markup. J/K There are plenty of build guides floating around here even now and myself as well as many others are perfectly happy to answer build questions.
Michael Arck 6323	Posted - 2016.03.22 04:11:00 - [26] - Quote In all honesty, a gamer can still game on PS3 without making the leap to current gen and not miss one thing. This has been the most lackluster generation in this bracket of console history starting with Nintendo 8bit. I wonder what the price would be for that PS4K. I'm betting on ridiculous. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 803	Posted - 2016.03.22 04:16:00 - [27] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: In all honesty, a gamer can still game on PS3 without making the leap to current gen and not miss one thing. This has been the most lackluster generation in this bracket of console history starting with Nintendo 8bit. I wonder what the price would be for that PS4K. I'm betting on ridiculous. Only the game developers will decide if the current PS4 stays valid. Lackluster yes. I feel like that was because of a race to market and a cash grab. Accountants always get the first choice so it is what it is. Ridiculous price is most likely true.
deadpool lifetone D3ATH CARD 130	Posted - 2016.03.22 11:07:00 - [28] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: http://kotaku.com/sources-sony-is-working-on-a-ps4-5-1765723053 Well, if you stop and think about it, it is not really something new: ps4 is much better than ps3 but still not enough powerful to compete with a gaming PC, not even close. Things will probably change a little bit, considering that if the new upgrade/console is capable of a 4k output for games even at "only" 30 frames per seconds it would be a huge step in narrowing the gap between consoles and PCs. . Let me put it this way . the PC's you see in the state's ( U.S ) are simple play thing's to those compared to China/Tokyo etc . Further more , the PS4 is a V4 engine and a PC is a V8 , 9 times out of 10 . there is no closing gap . one of the reasons Xbox/PS trying to cross platform is because the so called exclusive games that use to be for certain game console's are now 98% available and exclusive for PC's and way better with extra content . ( F U!!!! ) * ( Why Dead? ) , (n+Æn+Çn+¢´)GÇón++pâçGòÉS+ÇX - - - - n++(º Gûí º l\|l)/
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 3719	Posted - 2016.03.22 22:09:00 - [29] - Quote My reasoning is this: as far as I know, this gen of consoles is the only gen suffering this kind of gap with gaming PCs- the first Playstation was the absolute best at its time, same for Playstation 2 and Playstation 3. That said, I think that if it is a first step towards "upgradability" of a console it is very welcome: at the end of the day, consoles have always been very specialised PCs, and if you are able to upgrade a console this means two things: 1. Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or whetever, will be able to release a "new" version of their consoles by upgrading only some parts of it , let's say the Video Card, hence they will be able to lower the production costs of the "new" piece of hardware. Instead of "Playstation 5" you could possibly have a PS4 with the equivalent of a GTX 970, another one with the equivalent of a 980 etc. 2. Consoles will keep their strenghts: a closed system, impossible (not impossible, but at least much harder) to "hack", the ease of access etc. the exclusives, first party games, the ease of production on a unique (or, in this case, semi-unique) platform capable of unimaginable optimization. Lastly, when a giant of the industry like Sony last decided to go toe to toe with high-end gaming PC world, Playstation 2 came out, and I firmly believe that if Playstation brand wants to survive it's the only thing they can do. take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM] #PortDust514
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1667	Posted - 2016.03.22 22:26:00 - [30] - Quote Just wanna mention something a little late, the PS4 with 4k has been in the air for quite a while. Sony ment to release a 4k one to start with but got pressured with time of launch, so they held it off and waited for 4k teles to become more available to consumers. There is a planned release for a PS4 slim sometime this year during or after summer(June/July) which will allow 4k. It is important to note that the 4k is mainly guided for entertainment purposes not so much gaming. If any of you want to follow the console market(Playstation side) check out Mystic on YouTube. AmarrFTW "The Hero got his feelings hurt for 9 hp... " Not For Sale- Sanders 2016



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