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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
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Posted - 2016.03.16 11:17:00 -
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I have just finished maxing armor optimization to 5 and I have large blaster optimization to 3, as well as damage mod optimization to 3.
With this skills, I have enough space to fit all my fits with double hardeners (to their own tier) except one of my fits.
That fit is- Madrugar Gv.o 80g ion cannon 2 basic rail guns Complex fuel injector Complex heat sink Complex damage mod Complex 120 plate Complex heavy rep Complex armor hardener Complex ammo expansion (a whopping 1k+ ammo!!!)
Id do this through protofits.com but it hasn't been updated with recent info so it won't be correct. So best option is to ask those who have these skills maxed.
Assuming you fit your tank like so, are you able to fit an advanced hardener with blaster/damage mod optimization to 5? Also, if you swap out the heat sink for a complex scanner, can you fit a secind proto hardener or at least and advanced?
On the scanner version, I have enough space To fit a basic second hardener.
Double hardeners are amazing. Since I've gotten my skills on optimization to make save for them. I've died a lot less and have been getting scores like 15/0, as opposed to running only one hardener before, where I would die rather quickly when hardener went out.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe
Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.03.16 11:46:00 -
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I will pop onto my tanker character and do some science for you good sir o7
Will update you with my results ASAP!
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Lt Royal
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2016.03.16 12:53:00 -
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I'm afraid I've n00bed out seeing as I haven't got my Large Blaster Fitting Optimisation maxed out, but it seems like it might not fit anyway or if it does it'll be very, very tight!
I need 900k SP to finish the test off for you, but I really don't see myself hitting that amount any time soon. We will have to get a real tanker to verify this.
Sorry.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
12
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Posted - 2016.03.16 13:32:00 -
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Doing the math you should be able to with that since the ammo expansion is there.
But I will say this, honestly the Advanced armor plate will do you just fine. IF you have two armor reps and or Hardeners. I personally prefer two Armor Repairs and two Hardeners but for the sake of the fit I'd say go with An Advanced plate, 2 complex armor Hardener and a Complex armor repair with your ammo if you really want it.
If you have a blaster tank then I'd strongly suggest both a Heat Sink and a Damage mod with a basic injector for the highs lots.
That basic injector gives you just the spend and time you need to get out of a situation but don't use it sparingly. I've got the cool down and duration mods that slightly make it better but still, escape situations only for that module.
With the basic fuel injector and some to no small rail gun optimization skills you'd be able to have both mentioned fits.
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
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Posted - 2016.03.16 14:05:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Doing the math you should be able to with that since the ammo expansion is there.
But I will say this, honestly the Advanced armor plate will do you just fine. IF you have two armor reps and or Hardeners. I personally prefer two Armor Repairs and two Hardeners but for the sake of the fit I'd say go with An Advanced plate, 2 complex armor Hardener and a Complex armor repair with your ammo if you really want it.
If you have a blaster tank then I'd strongly suggest both a Heat Sink and a Damage mod with a basic injector for the highs lots.
That basic injector gives you just the spend and time you need to get out of a situation but don't use it sparingly. I've got the cool down and duration mods that slightly make it better but still, escape situations only for that module.
With the basic fuel injector and some to no small rail gun optimization skills you'd be able to have both mentioned fits.
Thanks.
Although, am I the only one that uses fuel injectors aside from escaping?
They are a great 1v1, trying to ram the enemy and get under/over them to a better position/avoid fire, and with longer time for the pro, you can still escape.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe
Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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SAMEERio
WarRavens Imperium Eden
278
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Posted - 2016.03.16 17:44:00 -
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Always go Double Hardeners, 1 Rep and 1 Plate
Eat my Shorts!
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
372
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Posted - 2016.03.16 18:21:00 -
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Build armor tanks from the lows up.
With large and small turret fitting optimization at 5 you can fit the following:
80gj Ion 2x Std railguns
Complex repper 2x Complex Hardener Enhanced plate
Complex Heat Sink Complex Blaster damage mod Basic prop mod.
But if you want to fight infantry, the Blaster fit gunloggi is much better.
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4
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Posted - 2016.03.16 23:05:00 -
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Double rep is meh
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe
Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Richard Gamerich-R
Prima Gallicus
418
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Posted - 2016.03.17 02:08:00 -
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Yo, I have all vehicles optimization at 5 and for your fit, it's impossible to put all your modules in complex with 2 complex hardener.
Your fit is a versatile role blaster tank, so you can't have the best regeneration and the best eHP at the same time.
I advise you to replace your complex injector for an enhanced injector. It's the best compromise PG/CPU/efficiency for this type of module.
Moreover, if you put a damage mod, it's to be more efficient against vehicles, and in general the winner in 1vs1 is the player with the more eHP, the regeneration is not enough hight to make the difference so: keep your 120mm complex plate, and put a basic heavy armor repair. If you have the bonus repair skill at level 5, it's good and enough.
The two complex hardener is an obligation in reality, don't try to make compromise on.
If you want a better fit against infantry (but less against vehicles, in general it's very hard to win if it's a good AV vehicle, you must run away with lol), speed, with a good regen, and a good vision:
Gv.0 Ion Blaster 80 Std secondary railgun turret 2 complex hardener 120mm enhanced plate 1 complex heavy armor repair 1 complex injector 1 complex heat sink 1 complex scanner
Good luck. o7
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2
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Posted - 2016.03.17 03:35:00 -
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Who needs all that wasted isk when all you have to do is use the damage mod sica or tanked out blaster soma?
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4480
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Posted - 2016.03.24 22:25:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Doing the math you should be able to with that since the ammo expansion is there.
But I will say this, honestly the Advanced armor plate will do you just fine. IF you have two armor reps and or Hardeners. I personally prefer two Armor Repairs and two Hardeners but for the sake of the fit I'd say go with An Advanced plate, 2 complex armor Hardener and a Complex armor repair with your ammo if you really want it.
If you have a blaster tank then I'd strongly suggest both a Heat Sink and a Damage mod with a basic injector for the highs lots.
That basic injector gives you just the spend and time you need to get out of a situation but don't use it sparingly. I've got the cool down and duration mods that slightly make it better but still, escape situations only for that module.
With the basic fuel injector and some to no small rail gun optimization skills you'd be able to have both mentioned fits.
I have to say, I've fallen I love with this fit-
Madrugar Gv.0 80gj Ion Cannon 2 basic railguns Complex fuel injector Complex blaster damage mod Complex heat sink Complex armor hardener Enhanced armor plate Enhanced heavy armor repairer Basic heavy armor repairer.
My favorite up to date, best against infantry of all fits I've tried and great against tanks.
I have recharge/time skills for mods to lvl 3 and I can pretty much use all mods when I need them. I'd fit a second enhanced heavy rep but it takes up just a little more space to fit than I can. Still need to skill some fitting optimization skills from blaster and damage mods to fit it (both currently at lvl 3)
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
6919
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Posted - 2016.03.24 22:35:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Doing the math you should be able to with that since the ammo expansion is there.
But I will say this, honestly the Advanced armor plate will do you just fine. IF you have two armor reps and or Hardeners. I personally prefer two Armor Repairs and two Hardeners but for the sake of the fit I'd say go with An Advanced plate, 2 complex armor Hardener and a Complex armor repair with your ammo if you really want it.
If you have a blaster tank then I'd strongly suggest both a Heat Sink and a Damage mod with a basic injector for the highs lots.
That basic injector gives you just the spend and time you need to get out of a situation but don't use it sparingly. I've got the cool down and duration mods that slightly make it better but still, escape situations only for that module.
With the basic fuel injector and some to no small rail gun optimization skills you'd be able to have both mentioned fits. Thanks. Although, am I the only one that uses fuel injectors aside from escaping? They are a great 1v1, trying to ram the enemy and get under/over them to a better position/avoid fire, and with quicker recharge times, it comes in handy Also thanks for mentioning, have yet to try out double rep, plate, and hardener. And next, double plate, rep and hardener. All with basic tanks though. More fitting space. I used fuel injectors on all my tanks so no wankers could run back to their redline |
jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D General Tso's Alliance
661
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Posted - 2016.03.25 11:09:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Doing the math you should be able to with that since the ammo expansion is there.
But I will say this, honestly the Advanced armor plate will do you just fine. IF you have two armor reps and or Hardeners. I personally prefer two Armor Repairs and two Hardeners but for the sake of the fit I'd say go with An Advanced plate, 2 complex armor Hardener and a Complex armor repair with your ammo if you really want it.
If you have a blaster tank then I'd strongly suggest both a Heat Sink and a Damage mod with a basic injector for the highs lots.
That basic injector gives you just the spend and time you need to get out of a situation but don't use it sparingly. I've got the cool down and duration mods that slightly make it better but still, escape situations only for that module.
With the basic fuel injector and some to no small rail gun optimization skills you'd be able to have both mentioned fits. I have to say, I've fallen I love with this fit- Madrugar Gv.0 80gj Ion Cannon 2 basic railguns Complex fuel injector Complex blaster damage mod Complex heat sink Complex armor hardener Enhanced armor plate Enhanced heavy armor repairer Basic heavy armor repairer. My favorite up to date, best against infantry of all fits I've tried and great against tanks. I have recharge/time skills for mods to lvl 3 and I can pretty much use all mods when I need them. I'd fit a second enhanced heavy rep but it takes up just a little more space to fit than I can. Still need to skill some fitting optimization skills from blaster and damage mods to fit it (both currently at lvl 3)
Yep thats pretty close to my fit.
I have everything to do with vehicles all solid lvl 5 and just wanted to say once you get those optimizations lvl 5 your going to be laughing :) Good luck getting there before the game closes i hope you get to experience it, very powerful and effective.
I usually use the madurk i really hate those goofs that get in my madrugar and do nothing.
Dont ask why but the madurk just seems 5x more effective if your solo tanking..
I am not saying you are going to like it, just a personal preference. plus it gets rid of those 2 secondary stock blasters/ railguns and the cpu and pg they eat up. You just really need lvl optimization across everything you use on your tank. The only way the madurk worked for me was when i hit solid lvl 5 on everything.
Other than that your setup seems just fine to me.
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
379
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Posted - 2016.03.25 12:30:00 -
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jett it wrote:
Dont ask why but the madurk just seems 5x more effective if your solo tanking..
Except for the whole having less fitting.
You are better off running a maddy with two militia blasters than driving a marduk.
People who don't tank should respond to tank threads. Especially when the advice they offer is flat out wrong.
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D General Tso's Alliance
661
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Posted - 2016.03.25 12:54:00 -
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Press Attache wrote:jett it wrote:
Dont ask why but the madurk just seems 5x more effective if your solo tanking..
Except for the whole having less fitting. You are better off running a maddy with two militia blasters than driving a marduk. People who don't tank should respond to tank threads. Especially when the advice they offer is flat out wrong.
Don't tank? lolol...
When ur solid lvl 5 everything, you can fit all that you need on the madurk and yes it becomes more effective than that hunk of junk maddy with annoying as f gunner seats.
You just need to learn how to read, solid lvl 5 is the key for madurks...
I am thinking you are one of those people that got it to lvl 3 everything and said this thing suck well its a beast at solid lvl 5.
I have gone 55/0 with it and a friend sarget encko i seen go 71/2 with it now how can you call me wrong?
You probably are just not the best tanker to learn from.
Tell me why do i always see duna2002 with the madurk and the blaster? Hmm because they like me know what the heck we are talking about.
But yeah keep your maddys lolol...
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
379
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Posted - 2016.03.26 16:11:00 -
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jett it wrote:
Don't tank? lolol...
When ur solid lvl 5 everything, you can fit all that you need on the madurk and yes it becomes more effective than that hunk of junk maddy with annoying as f gunner seats.
You just need to learn how to read, solid lvl 5 is the key for madurks...
I am thinking you are one of those people that got it to lvl 3 everything and said this thing sucks well its a beast at solid lvl 5.
I have gone 55/0 with it and a friend sargent ecko i seen go 71/2 with it now how can you call me wrong?
You probably are just not the best tanker to learn from.
Tell me why do i always see duna2002 with the madurk and the blaster? Hmm because they like me know what the heck we are talking about. Only time i ever see duna in a maddy is when they are camping with a rail in the redline.
But yeah keep your maddys lolol...
You are a fool.
The Marduk has less fitting.
When you have all the turret ops to 5, large and small, the Madrugar has more fitting than the Marduk. Period. If you don't know this, you are not qualified to talk about tanks.
You cannot fit the same amount of tank or damage on a Marduk as you can on a Madrugar with the same skills. When you add in that a blue dot can get in and in 1 fight in 1000 help you out, makes it even more lopsided.
You see duna in a marduk because he is bad. Anyone who can do math would be in a Madrugar, because you don't lose anything running one, and you get higher dps, a better tank, or both.
You clearly haven't done the necessary building. You commenting on tanks has made me laugh. Congrats on putting up a good game. I bet it was the highlight of your career.
BTW, I did a 78-0 in a shield missile tank, but that clearly doesn't make it the best tank to use.
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Mejt0
Made in Poland... Devil's Descendants
2717
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Posted - 2016.03.27 13:24:00 -
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If I remember my fit correctly, It used to be like this :
Madrugar gv.0 (vs infantry)
Ion Cannon Complex Hard Enhanced Hard Complex 120mm plate
Complex Scanner Complex Damage Complex Nitro
2x basic rails or blasters. Can't remember.
You are hardened 24/7, you scan 90% of enemies, damage mod for killing fatties.
Ps. To "jett it" . The more SP you put in vehicles, the better Madrugar is. Only a moron would ride in Madruk gv.0
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
4454
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Posted - 2016.03.27 16:51:00 -
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Wouldn/t your tank die before you even got a kill. Like yesterday!
"A quantum super computer, calculating for a thousand years, could not even approach the number of fucks I do not give."
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4499
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Posted - 2016.03.27 17:43:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Wouldn/t your tank die before you even got a kill. Like yesterday!
Stfu I already told you what happened. Gosh. I'm still experimenting with fits anyways.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4508
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Posted - 2016.03.28 23:38:00 -
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Bump
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
4459
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Posted - 2016.03.28 23:59:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Wouldn/t your tank die before you even got a kill. Like yesterday! Stfu I already told you what happened. Gosh. I'm still experimenting with fits anyways. what and ever.
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4508
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Posted - 2016.03.29 00:02:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Wouldn/t your tank die before you even got a kill. Like yesterday! Stfu I already told you what happened. Gosh. I'm still experimenting with fits anyways. what and ever.
I did some interesting math. Go look.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
4459
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Posted - 2016.03.29 00:26:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Wouldn/t your tank die before you even got a kill. Like yesterday! Stfu I already told you what happened. Gosh. I'm still experimenting with fits anyways. what and ever. I did some interesting math. Go look. The math is not perfected.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
22242
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Posted - 2016.03.29 01:24:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Found new favorite "destroyer" fit. Op against infantry and deadly to vehicles- Madrugar Gv.0 Ion cannon 2 rail guns Complex heat sink 2 complex damage mods Complex hardener Complex 120 plate Complex heavy rep Atm I also have a basic cpu upgrade but when I finish skilling optimization for large blaster and damage mods, will swap for what ever else fits, most likely a complex ammo expansion. LOOKING FOR GUNNERSI'll pay 50k per death for each gunner. I usually play right after downtime. For those interested, join chat channel LD3514 With this fit, I can bring an installation to a sliver of health with one over heat (2x damage and heat sink). Paired with 2 gunners, no over heat necessary. Perfect for large groups of enemy infantry. Fatal for shield tankers, dangerous for armor tankers. Here's the blaster stats
Gunnlogi is still a better platform for this. You really should grab one and give yourself the Neutron Blaster while they take the 20Gj Particle Accelerators.
Maddies don't stand a chance and the combined DPS breaks a Gunnlogi with only one occupant across the knee and makes the pilot your *****.
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4508
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Posted - 2016.03.29 03:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Found new favorite "destroyer" fit. Op against infantry and deadly to vehicles- Madrugar Gv.0 Ion cannon 2 rail guns Complex heat sink 2 complex damage mods Complex hardener Complex 120 plate Complex heavy rep Atm I also have a basic cpu upgrade but when I finish skilling optimization for large blaster and damage mods, will swap for what ever else fits, most likely a complex ammo expansion. LOOKING FOR GUNNERSI'll pay 50k per death for each gunner. I usually play right after downtime. For those interested, join chat channel LD3514 With this fit, I can bring an installation to a sliver of health with one over heat (2x damage and heat sink). Paired with 2 gunners, no over heat necessary. Perfect for large groups of enemy infantry. Fatal for shield tankers, dangerous for armor tankers. Here's the blaster stats Gunnlogi is still a better platform for this. You really should grab one and give yourself the Neutron Blaster while they take the 20Gj Particle Accelerators. Maddies don't stand a chance and the combined DPS breaks a Gunnlogi with only one occupant across the knee and makes the pilot your *****.
Meh. problem would be sacrificing total hp/hardened hp. With only 2 high slots for shields, I can choose high hp, mid hp and hardener, or 2 hardeners. I could put armor on the low but now I have to choose between rep or hardener, with either one not being effective without the other. And as I have experienced lately using this fit, I can take out a huge chunk of hp before hardeners kick in. And if only one hardener is present, I have still melted through with little difficulty (pesky swarms have cause almost all of my losses so far)
Next, I still have to skill blaster/damage optimization to 4 and 5. I also can swap out that basic cpu for a complex and skill small rail optimization. I'm not exactly sure but i think I could fit 2 advanced small rails, doubtfully, but maybe one complex too. So I can do more damage than the gunny fit while keeping high armor, rep, and hardener.
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Lightning35 Delta514
Federation Marines 62
4508
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Posted - 2016.03.29 03:01:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Wouldn/t your tank die before you even got a kill. Like yesterday! Stfu I already told you what happened. Gosh. I'm still experimenting with fits anyways. what and ever. I did some interesting math. Go look. The math is not perfected.
What's wrong with it?
CEO of Federation Marines 62 - Bravo Company
Gallente Loyalist - Quafe - Gk.0s/Gv.0s - 64m SP
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Press Attache
The Office of The Attorney General
379
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Posted - 2016.03.29 04:33:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:
Meh. problem would be sacrificing total hp/hardened hp. With only 2 high slots for shields, I can choose high hp, mid hp and hardener, or 2 hardeners. I could put armor on the low but now I have to choose between rep or hardener, with either one not being effective without the other. And as I have experienced lately using this fit, I can take out a huge chunk of hp before hardeners kick in. And if only one hardener is present, I have still melted through with little difficulty (pesky swarms have cause almost all of my losses so far)
Next, I still have to skill blaster/damage optimization to 4 and 5. I also can swap out that basic cpu for a complex and skill small rail optimization. I'm not exactly sure but i think I could fit 2 advanced small rails, doubtfully, but maybe one complex too. So I can do more damage than the gunny fit while keeping high armor, rep, and hardener.
Except you don't have High rep, armor or toughness. Single complex plate makes you slow, and super easy to run down for a scout. No prob mod means you can't GTFO when you need to. Single rep, single hardener puts a low cap on how much and how long you can tank.
You are trading tank for gank, and on that front, a maddy can't match a 'loggi.
You seem to be really focused on getting maximum DPS, and I can't say I really agree with that idea. More often than not, in the event that you make yourself enough of a problem, you will end up with a full squad of AV on you. They will come by LAV, and will pack more than enough DPS to end your fit. It won't be hard. All they have to do is hit you with swarms once, and then wait 40 seconds then nuke you when your hardener drops.
Like I said before, build armor tanks from the lows up. Build your tank first, then stuff as much gank as you can fit.
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Radiant Pancake3
Y.A.M.A.H
4465
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Posted - 2016.03.29 11:38:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote: The math is not perfected.
What's wrong with it? You can have fun figuring that out.
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