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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.03.15 19:30:00 -
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Fanfest will be nothing but another trailer. Most likely they will not even have game play ability like they did with Legion.
I say this because they purposely set the bar low saying it is in an early stage of development. Also, if Rattati is actually working on the new game that means they only started any type of heavy production on the so called new game about 6 months ago as that is around the time that he went dark.
Given the fact that in that time part of CCP Shanghai was busy releasing GunJack and experimenting in VR like the rest of CCP, the potential for progress is not super high. |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.03.15 19:43:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Fanfest will be nothing but another trailer. Most likely they will not even have game play ability like they did with Legion.
I say this because they purposely set the bar low saying it is in an early stage of development. Also, if Rattati is actually working on the new game that means they only started any type of heavy production on the so called new game about 6 months ago as that is around the time that he went dark.
Given the fact that in that time part of CCP Shanghai was busy releasing GunJack and experimenting in VR like the rest of CCP, the potential for progress is not super high. But we can still be hopeful. Personally I'll take anything, a trailer, a playable demo (hopefully), if it means they are making progress.
Call me an pessimist or whatever you want but being hopeful with CCP has never lead to anything good.
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.03.15 20:09:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Fanfest will be nothing but another trailer. Most likely they will not even have game play ability like they did with Legion.
I say this because they purposely set the bar low saying it is in an early stage of development. Also, if Rattati is actually working on the new game that means they only started any type of heavy production on the so called new game about 6 months ago as that is around the time that he went dark.
Given the fact that in that time part of CCP Shanghai was busy releasing GunJack and experimenting in VR like the rest of CCP, the potential for progress is not super high. But we can still be hopeful. Personally I'll take anything, a trailer, a playable demo (hopefully), if it means they are making progress. Call me an pessimist or whatever you want but being hopeful with CCP has never lead to anything good. Actually I have been hopeful in CCP many times and they have not let me down before. The community let CCP down during FF14 when they rejected Project Legion.
WOW I wish I could borrow some of your optimism.
FF14 was an absolute PR disaster that was completely CCP's fault. Leading people on and then pulling a total turn around which almost equated to a bait and switch proved CCP had no clue about their player base on Dust. The revolt that happened was more than justified.
People were also optimistic on WoD for about 8 years and that never even reached a playable internal alpha stage.
Eve players were optimistic all the way up to Burn Jita which was a direct result of CCP not giving a crap about their players, Hilmar even sent out a memo that essentially said they will do what we want them too.
Dust was plagued with mismanagement from the moment it was conceived which is why we never saw even close to a finished game. |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.03.16 22:58:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Yeah, Project Legion was not a good idea. You must have missed the parts about releasing that game on the same shaky custom build of UE3 that Dust runs on, or where they talked about removing virtually all freedom from skill training and making all suits BPOs because risk-vs-reward is "not sexy".
Not all of us were just mad over the announcement. I was mad about the announcement but it only got worse as I watched the rest of the presentations and just about lost all hope in CCP Shanghai entirely.
I totally agree that there was far more failure to Legion than the announcement itself. I only point to the announcement as being what triggered the majority of the upset. I was really mad at first myself but then came to like the idea of Legion and then found out that as you mention it was using broken code transplanted from Dust and heard the rumors of what rig they had setup just to sustain that play demo they did and went back to hating the idea to the point that I pretty much gave up on CCP ever producing a really good FPS.
The path they seem to have chosen is the best one but they seem to have done it way too late IF this new game is actually still in "very early stages". By my estimates they started on this new game roughly 6 months ago but were dividing their time between the new game and Gun Jack which as you remember was their off the clock time and became a project. Having nothing to show but a trailer at Fanfest will quickly send me back into the state of "oh well I will never get to see a CCP FPS."
Please for the love of New Eden prove me wrong and have an alpha announcement at Fanfest. I am literally begging. I would not mind going back to shoveling you money in the right circumstances. Unfortunately Eve is not something that I spend a ton of money on nor do I have the desire too. |
LOOKMOM NOHANDS
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Posted - 2016.03.16 23:27:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:LOOKMOM NOHANDS wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:
Yeah, Project Legion was not a good idea. You must have missed the parts about releasing that game on the same shaky custom build of UE3 that Dust runs on, or where they talked about removing virtually all freedom from skill training and making all suits BPOs because risk-vs-reward is "not sexy".
Not all of us were just mad over the announcement. I was mad about the announcement but it only got worse as I watched the rest of the presentations and just about lost all hope in CCP Shanghai entirely.
I totally agree that there was far more failure to Legion than the announcement itself. I only point to the announcement as being what triggered the majority of the upset. I was really mad at first myself but then came to like the idea of Legion and then found out that as you mention it was using broken code transplanted from Dust and heard the rumors of what rig they had setup just to sustain that play demo they did and went back to hating the idea to the point that I pretty much gave up on CCP ever producing a really good FPS. The path they seem to have chosen is the best one but they seem to have done it way too late IF this new game is actually still in "very early stages". By my estimates they started on this new game roughly 6 months ago but were dividing their time between the new game and Gun Jack which as you remember was their off the clock time and became a project. Having nothing to show but a trailer at Fanfest will quickly send me back into the state of "oh well I will never get to see a CCP FPS." Please for the love of New Eden prove me wrong and have an alpha announcement at Fanfest. I am literally begging. I would not mind going back to shoveling you money in the right circumstances. Unfortunately Eve is not something that I spend a ton of money on nor do I have the desire too. **** if they did that and then proved me wrong as well by embracing Microsoft's announcement and going with cross-play, I would probably spend an embarrassing quantity.
Cross platform stuff does not really excite me all that much. Yes it creates a bigger player base and makes it much easier to play with friends but I feel like it also probably seriously slows down progress of the game as a whole having to not only rework every update for all of the systems involved before you can really release it.
The way things are looking I think the current Xbox will be the last one. Microsoft seems to be making a push to just having everyone game on a PC in some form whether it is an alienware console, an xbox converted to a PC, a PC, or even just a laptop. We shall see. |
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