DUST Search - "Tiered Recognition Rewards"

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Bremen van Equis wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

CCP Rouge wrote:

You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you.

Heavy implication is enough to bring it to court. It may not win, but it can easily go to court and that is where the money is lost. I don't think CCP or the players want that outcome.

They need to do right by the players who invested and not be money grubbers right now. Mostly it will be a new audience anyway, so its not like doing the right thing is costing them a lot in the long run.

I believe you're all referencing a project that is now dead (read: Project Legion). If you want a new project that in no way resembles the game you're all so passionate about, then by all means keep bringing up the idea of legal action.

There would have to be enough of a significant difference between Dust and the new game to warrant the justification. And though CCP claims this currently, we all know that's likely smoke being blown. When the chips are down, CCP generally half-asses new projects when there are old concepts to cling to. When your team is cut to ribbons, this applies even moreso.


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Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.06 17:18:00 - [1] - Quote What would everyone here think if CCP let us take 5% of our current SP total into the new game? In my case with 50 million that would be 2.5 million into the new game. Does that sound reasonable? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.07 03:55:00 - [2] - Quote Oh, wow, got quite a few people talking with this. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.09 04:46:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Bremen van Equis wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: CCP Rouge wrote: You would be able to bring your character name, applicable skills/inventory, and other elements of progression with you. Heavy implication is enough to bring it to court. It may not win, but it can easily go to court and that is where the money is lost. I don't think CCP or the players want that outcome. They need to do right by the players who invested and not be money grubbers right now. Mostly it will be a new audience anyway, so its not like doing the right thing is costing them a lot in the long run. I believe you're all referencing a project that is now dead (read: Project Legion). If you want a new project that in no way resembles the game you're all so passionate about, then by all means keep bringing up the idea of legal action. There would have to be enough of a significant difference between Dust and the new game to warrant the justification. And though CCP claims this currently, we all know that's likely smoke being blown. When the chips are down, CCP generally half-asses new projects when there are old concepts to cling to. When your team is cut to ribbons, this applies even moreso. The idea of trying to take legal action over a video game is asinine, Himi. Admit it. Free-to-play games have been shut down many times over the years and you haven't seen their players going on about taking the company to court. You've got no more ammunition here than you would in those cases. Anyone who wants to quit over not carrying all their stuff over, that's your call, but you're going to get nowhere at all trying to claim that the company owes you money because they're shutting down their game. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.09 13:59:00 - [4] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Mmm Nah I want my name, sp, and bpos/skins. All else doesn't matter. Only name sp and skills I think it's highly unliked SP or BPOs will be transferred. We might get to keep -some- SP but imagine trying to explain to new players of the new game that the people coming in from the console game with over 200 million SP doesn't mean they shouldn't play. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.09 14:25:00 - [5] - Quote Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: Mmm Nah I want my name, sp, and bpos/skins. All else doesn't matter. Only name sp and skills I think it's highly unliked SP or BPOs will be transferred. We might get to keep -some- SP but imagine trying to explain to new players of the new game that the people coming in from the console game with over 200 million SP doesn't mean they shouldn't play. well, dont forget, new game should and most likely will have improved matchmaking so those 200m sp players will play against players with similar skill/sp. i, a 60m sp player, should not be put up against new players, but instead with people within a 50-70m sp range, etc etc etc. Who says we're even going to have the same skill system, though? Part of Project Legion was that even while changing almost no game mechanics they were going to completely redo the progression system. There was talk of removing levels from Skills and just having a single unlock, and also requiring you to spec into a race's suits before you can unlock their weapons, so no more freedom of skill training. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.09 18:40:00 - [6] - Quote John Psi wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: What would everyone here think if CCP let us take 5% of our current SP total into the new game? Dear OP, I have a question - do you want to play this new %gamename% game? Yes. Why? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.10 13:17:00 - [7] - Quote And here I am hoping the lobby-shooter bullshit dies in a fire. I mean, I'd love it if we finally got that Arena system they talked about, which would give matchmade and probably gear-restricted lobbies with traditional game modes like CTF and KOTH. However, I'd personally like to see Public Contracts go back to being a selectable list of fights to deploy into like they were back in the Replication build. If people's primary experience of the new game is grinding matchmade lobbies again just like in this game, you're not going to get many people that actually want to play. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.10 18:32:00 - [8] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: And here I am hoping the lobby-shooter bullshit dies in a fire. I mean, I'd love it if we finally got that Arena system they talked about, which would give matchmade and probably gear-restricted lobbies with traditional game modes like CTF and KOTH. However, I'd personally like to see Public Contracts go back to being a selectable list of fights to deploy into like they were back in the Replication build. If people's primary experience of the new game is grinding matchmade lobbies again just like in this game, you're not going to get many people that actually want to play. I'd like deaths to go..I feel like that would make the game more competitive Also the original skirmish needs to return, Corp battles..I love search and destroy I completely agree on original skirmish. It needed some balance work but it was a LOT more exciting than Skirmish 2.0. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.12 16:14:00 - [9] - Quote OP jumping in again to say I thought this thread would get 10 responses and die, but it still keeps going. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.13 06:48:00 - [10] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Kaughst wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: OP jumping in again to say I thought this thread would get 10 responses and die, but it still keeps going. Looks like you hit the G spot. Made me nice and wet Just admit you are dry and worn out. From you baby..it's Been like a year I got a waterfall now Well, that happened. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.14 13:28:00 - [11] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Arkena nailed it but I feel like CCP is the type of devteam that would rather cover up a problem instead of fix it. They've always been about the short term solution and its what has constantly harmed the long-term health of all of their games. They are especially fond of doing this during early development when that oh-so-important groundwork is being laid out. Pretty sure they will happily wipe our stats and say something like "We need to do this now, but we will have a solution for SP gaps in the future" and then they will either never have a solution, or it will be so horrifying that the game is just bad. CCP Z's ideas for Legion progression were pure cancer, and I'm genuinely terrified of what he is going to do with this. Personally, I'd like to see skill bonuses reduced. Given this is a shooter, I don't think any skill bonus should give you more than 2% per level no matter what it's buffing. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.03.14 16:59:00 - [12] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: I don't expect them to carry much over but I don't really see why we can't just do a full transfer. Their will only be 3000 max returning dust players and how many will be on at a time? Having a few veteran elites who dominate won't ruin the game and it will make noobs strive to get there themselves. Kind of the way I feel myself, even though I'm fairly sure CCP is set on the idea of a full reset with nothing carried over. No matter how well balanced the game is and how much reasoning can be presented for how keeping our current characters and assets wouldn't harm anything, there would be large numbers of people who refused to even try the game because we got to keep our stuff. It's not about balance, it's about e-peen, same as the people who say they'll never play EVE Online solely because they can't "level cap" and thus be equal to all the other players. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7772	Posted - 2016.03.28 17:35:00 - [13] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: People would really give CCP more money for another trash game? I tried that here and was met with failure after failure and then shut down. Face it Dust was pay to lose. These douchebags gave me 3 out of the 10 years, that they advertised to make me spend money. Tell us how you really feel. Given the new game will almost certainly be free-to-play as well, we're all free to try it out with as much skepticism as we want. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7778	Posted - 2016.03.30 17:56:00 - [14] - Quote I think we can safely guarantee that the new game will be match-based in some way when it releases. Deeper integration and "open-world" stuff will probably be later. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector