I just played. I wasn't seriously wanting to play, just trying out a militia BPO fit using BPOs from my Gallente alt, and I just wanted to see how badly I sucked with a MLT AR.

Well, I did suck so bad I had to switch back to my Rasetsu to get any decent kills. But that's not the story. The story is that I came into the battle with it half over, never a good sign. Blue actually had the point, and I couldn't figure out why anyone would have left the battle at that point.

Then when it was announced that clone reserves were critical, I looked at the numbers. Blue was down to something like 5 and red had 101. They were just decimating us. They weren't even bothering trying to win back the point, they were just killing blues at such a rate that it wasn't even a contest.

This was a really blatant slaughter, made possible by CCP's mechanics of stacking all the squads on one team (is this what people mean when they say "qsinc"? Anyway, it was atrocious. If the game wasn't closing down I think I'd just tell everyone not to even bother with it. The people who squad and therefore always are on the stomper side think this is just great, I know, but to noobs and solos, it's just awful.

I'm only sticking around because I want to see how far I can take my skills in the short time left. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't even bother another day.

As for the people that relish this sort of one-sided stomping, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

But I know you're not. I'll just be glad to be rid of you when the time comes.

Hey, I feel you all to well on this subject.
Several things have to be taken into account now.

1. Squads are now max of 4 players, so the impact of one good vet squad is less. My squad of 4 the other day achieved over 100 kills I alone had 52kills. We lost the match because the rest of our blues went negative. I recall one have over 26 deaths o.O and no kills.

2. The original match making is fair sometimes, however the vets are doing extremely odd stuff the attitude of "uh oh good team let's leave guys" so then you lose your main squad on your side.

3. I currently use the warlords suit, I killed 3 vets who was using officer in a dom yesterday. 5minutes later they're using thales in the redline. This is completely the wrong attitude and these players need to go to ambush (seriously)

4. Pc- I know i have gone into a game quite alot thesee days and will get a message saying, "pc jade we need you to fc" so I'll back out with my sqd

5. Disconnecting, dcs and this waiting for deployment crap. If my sqd deployed and 3 get in and 1 don't. We back out for them.

There's more but you get the idea. As for q syncing, back in dmg we would set up a few squads and search ambush on the same server to verse eachother. I remember one time we got 14 dead man's game players on one team in ambush! Ridiculous honestly.

4 man squads work with and increasing player Base. However now that it's dropping it's not an effective situation. One squad can't win a dom. And that's if you're lucky to even have a squad.

Oh and remember all vets are slayers these days, they throw cores like the crazy cat lady throws cats. So their equipment slot is nanohives. Which means one thing.... they rely on militia uplinks then wine because it's 15 seconds hahah.

All good points. I have a few back for you.

Yes, all the vets are slayers. And they're all in pubs, instead of FW or PC where they should be. Of course, if matchmaking actually worked the way everyone says it should this wouldn't be a problem because noobs and solos (like me) wouldn't be teamed up against vets. But they are because matchmaking does NOT work that way.

Whatever the case, it's clear that many matches end up with a team of vet squads against a team of what's left after all the squads have left. For noobs and solos, that's just awful.

And yet people on the stomping side think that's just fine. I've been on the stomping side, purely by accident, and it's boring. The other team is redlined so fast, there's nothing left to do but wait for the end of the match, and try to pick off the odd stray that finds their way out of the redline.

As for matchmaking being "fair", no, it's not. I accept that it may have been once, but these days, no, it's not. If it were, I would have experienced about 50/50 matches won v lost. My skills alone can't be the reason I find myself on the losing team about 90% of the time. CCP is clearly teaming up all the squads on one team of a match first, and I can only imagine this is to allow squads of 4 to team up as if they were squads of up to 16. The fact that I'm sometimes on the winning team with all these squads is simply by accident.

You can go on thinking matchmaking is "fair", but it won't change the fact that it isn't. Thankfully, it's over in a few month's time.

First of all the correct term for people who pad stats on pubs is "Scrub" not vet. Now these scrubs are pretty bad and I literally mean 'BAD'. They camp crus for the starter fit kills because good players won't die easy or they just can't kill them. I myself have taken down so many full proto suits with a bloody apex from proto ck.0 assault to proto assault hmg at close range (with a apex). So does this mean I'm a good player? No these guys are similar to starter fits newbs only with a proto suit on them. And if solo stat padding does not work they bring in full corp sqds or q-sync *cough* (I'm not gonna point you scrubs out) *cough*. Recently I was in a skirm match with a full sqd and 2 people were just sitting at a point. (Waste of space) And on the red side there was a full sqd of ** as they were dominating before we got there. Once we took control these guys sat on the roofs with MDs and rr camping on points and crus for starter fit kill. And then people like these send you a hatemail because you destroyed their proto with apex and hurt their pride. I blame ccp, I hate you ccp :[ and pls buff scr.

I just played. I wasn't seriously wanting to play, just trying out a militia BPO fit using BPOs from my Gallente alt, and I just wanted to see how badly I sucked with a MLT AR.

Well, I did suck so bad I had to switch back to my Rasetsu to get any decent kills. But that's not the story. The story is that I came into the battle with it half over, never a good sign. Blue actually had the point, and I couldn't figure out why anyone would have left the battle at that point.

Then when it was announced that clone reserves were critical, I looked at the numbers. Blue was down to something like 5 and red had 101. They were just decimating us. They weren't even bothering trying to win back the point, they were just killing blues at such a rate that it wasn't even a contest.

This was a really blatant slaughter, made possible by CCP's mechanics of stacking all the squads on one team (is this what people mean when they say "qsinc"? Anyway, it was atrocious. If the game wasn't closing down I think I'd just tell everyone not to even bother with it. The people who squad and therefore always are on the stomper side think this is just great, I know, but to noobs and solos, it's just awful.

I'm only sticking around because I want to see how far I can take my skills in the short time left. If it weren't for that, I wouldn't even bother another day.

As for the people that relish this sort of one-sided stomping, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

But I know you're not. I'll just be glad to be rid of you when the time comes.

If CCP doesn't even make an effort to try to make matchs more balanced in Dust 2.0, then it isn't going to be worth playing. At least some of the stompers won't be able to go to PC.

That's not even the worst I've seen.

Matchmking isn't fair, why, because we don't have a huge enough playerbase to make it work.

Well, it's definitely the worst I've seen. But it's all just a matter of degree isn't it? When one side can obliterate the other to the point they don't even need to try to hack the objective, it all just degenerates into an ambush, which is where these stomping guys should really be. There is actually another thread about people not playing ambush. I think they are just using all pubs for a default ambush match. Just like they're stomping in pubs instead of in FW. In short, they're not bothering anymore with the other game modes, they're just using pubs of any mode for ambush stomping.

The last post on this forum will be "I was just in this match running solo with a bunch of new players and the other side had two full squads of protostompers, seriously CCP if you wa...Servers are now closed"

Oh and remember all vets are slayers these days, they throw cores like the crazy cat lady throws cats.

First of all the correct term for people who pad stats on pubs is "Scrub" not vet. Now these scrubs are pretty bad and I literally mean 'BAD'. They camp crus for the starter fit kills because good players won't die easy or they just can't kill them. I myself have taken down so many full proto suits with a bloody apex from proto ck.0 assault to proto assault hmg at close range (with a apex). So does this mean I'm a good player? No these guys are similar to starter fits newbs only with a proto suit on them. And if solo stat padding does not work they bring in full corp sqds or q-sync *cough* (I'm not gonna point you scrubs out) *cough*. Recently I was in a skirm match with a full sqd and 2 people were just sitting at a point. (Waste of space) And on the red side there was a full sqd of ** as they were dominating before we got there. Once we took control these guys sat on the roofs with MDs and rr camping on points and crus for starter fit kill. And then people like these send you a hatemail because you destroyed their proto with apex and hurt their pride. I blame ccp, I hate you ccp :[ and pls buff scr.