I enjoy killing proto in my milita fits. It truly shows how skilled you are when you don't need to use proto as a crutch and still get #1.

I see this is from the other thread. We'll continue here. :)

I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't have the ISK to run perma-proto in a losing match. While I'm around 78m ISK, there's still plenty of time before the servers close. Losing a 150-200k suit several times when I'm on the wrong side of an officer stomp will add up pretty fast. Not super stacked on officer either, so I only pull it out when it looks like I won't die to BS; or vice versa, when there's more competition than starter fits.

I run proto if it's an evenly matched battle or I'm being a logi for my corp bros (can't stand not having the best EQ). If the match is totally lopsided, I'm not gonna lose a million ISK for no reason. And if I'm on the stomping side, I'm not interested in making it worse by assisting in the prevention of the enemy leaving their redline. That simply isn't fun, and the purpose of a video game is diminished.

So sure. To support your ideals, I'd happily accept a donation. I totally agree with you, while my wallet does not.

YDubbs !!!!!!!! I thought you left or got off man !! Good times in PC matches buddy !

Why care what other people run or how they play? Calm down dork.

A few factors that make my ISK loss much faster than expected:
-I'm not always in a squad of swaggin' warriors that watch my back.
-I don't follow the meta. So basically if I'm not a triple myo proto Assault on a roof, I'm gonna have a bad time.
-I'm not a risk averse player. I actually go for the point, which is where the enemies are and my allies are not. I'm a good player, but I can't do much against 3 guys at once.
-I don't use Core Locus Grenades, the easiest and most effective way to win a fight without fighting.

So it seems we have very different philosophies on how to play Dust, which is fine. My only request is that you refrain from attacking people's character over it. It's a very bad habit whether you're right or not.

I see your point and I agree that burning all proto/officer gear is a great idea, but I guess I don't understand why you care about what other people choose to do.

You could just play how you want to and not worry about what other people are doing.

How incredibly narrow your thinking is! How do you know everyone even has proto suits? I don't! I don't have the skills for them although I'm working really hard to get into them by the end. Now that I've discovered logis, I'm making lots of SP and ISK, so I should be in proto suits pretty soon, but right now, it's just not possible.

I do have access to State LP proto suits, but I can't get into any CFW matches to get them, and all the AUR suits are just that, I can't buy them for ISK although I have plenty of ISK due to my running BPOs all the time.

Don't rail against people who don't run proto just because you do. What makes you think you can tell people what they should run, anyway?

I always find it funny that guys still stalk the forums when they don't even play the game. Then they talk sh!t about dust players but yet here they are stalking.

Kinda like that pedo you see watching the school kids with a trench coat on in August.

I need some isk dubbs

Seriously down been handing isk out like candy on Halloween.

"I do it, therefore you can." I'm pretty sure that's a logical fallacy, not to mention that you didn't reciprocate all of my points.

There are still some lurking variables. Such as the fact that you have limitless ISK, or you get better matches, or your gungame is better than mine. I'm a good player, but not a great one.

The point is, I'm aware of how my choice of suits affects my wallet, and I know for certain that I'd run out before the game closes. If you'd make better use of 78m ISK, good on you. We're not the same people though.

OK, but this is nothing to do with the MLT wearing blues, who probably are noobs anyway. This is to do with the fact you run solo, as do I.

I worked out some time ago that matchmaking has an insidious facet to it. Someone in CCP thought it was a good idea to put all the available squads on the same side first, probably so gangs of squads could team up. Then the rest of that side and the other side are filled with solos.

The result you get is one side populated with stomper gangs and the other populated with solos and noobs. If there's enough squads, both sides will have them but one side always seems to have more and dominate. The other problem is the way teams of noobs and solos are sent against teams of proto squads rather than other noobs.

This is a matchmaking problem, Ydubbs, not a problem of people running BPOs instead of proto.

I have 20m SP and over 190m ISK! But there are other things to spend SP on than suits! I focussed on core skills pretty early. Being an EvE player I understand that core skills are the important ones for EVERY suit you run. So my core skills and weapon skills, which are the ones essential for fitting ANY suit are very good - then there is the fact that there are so many different types of suits. I have level 3 in all Caldari Assault, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel and Commando.

At least I've specialised in one race. You're talking about specialising in one suit!! How do you even know which suit to specialise in until you get good enough with them to work that out? To do that you have to have at least ADV skills. I'm only now working on getting Assault, Logistics and Scout to level 5. I can run State ck.0 suits with lvl 3 of each type but that necessarily means my bonuses will be down.

You seem to make a lot of assumptions with your tirade against BPOs. Based on another of your posts, you want everyone wearing proto gear so your team will have proto gear. But that's just not going to happen, because of flaws in matchmaking. While there are noobs, running solo will put you in teams of noobs and they don't have the proto gear you want them to. Get over it.

This is why I love my Rasetsu, Hawk and now my Kampo (I finally got one in exchange for the Shogun I really shouldn't have bought).

I love running these suits because they're good enough for purpose without dying before I have a chance to do anything, and they're free, so I don't have to worry about losing suits.

And I find the Medic - CA is still the best MLT suit I have for both speed and weapons - again, because of that Militia MAGSEC! :)

Edit: People who think fighting in the most expensive suit is the only way to go are missing an important point. Militia gear is actually quite good, if you learn to use it right. It's not the best, but it's still powerful enough to do the job.

Not true, militia is better than proto when your team is being redlined, because you can literally die 20 times but still make a profit, which is not possible in a proto suit.