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Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 10:26:00 - [1] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: or any suit that's not at least proto at this time are just tools. There is no reason to stack or save ISK. There is no reason to only use proto or officer in pc matches. Burn them all in pubs, get 1.5M ISK payouts until you run out and then quit the game. The only ones I can understand still bringing out adv gear or lower are those that for some reason can't afford to run proto all day. If you have 30M ISK or more, you should be running proto and officer gear. If you are low on ISK, I will send you some. I have billions of ISK to burn and I don't play enough to do so. How incredibly narrow your thinking is! How do you know everyone even has proto suits? I don't! I don't have the skills for them although I'm working really hard to get into them by the end. Now that I've discovered logis, I'm making lots of SP and ISK, so I should be in proto suits pretty soon, but right now, it's just not possible. I do have access to State LP proto suits, but I can't get into any CFW matches to get them, and all the AUR suits are just that, I can't buy them for ISK although I have plenty of ISK due to my running BPOs all the time. Don't rail against people who don't run proto just because you do. What makes you think you can tell people what they should run, anyway?
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 10:40:00 - [2] - Quote DRAKEST HOUR wrote: Why care what other people run or how they play? Calm down dork. He cares because he wants more expensive kills and bigger payout. Precisely the reason I don't give the stompers what they want - I leave the match when I'm being stomped, and I certainly don't run my most expensive suits. It always amuses me that the people who complain so much about others using BPOs are generally the stompers. They don't like anyone escaping their stomping. ;)
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 10:48:00 - [3] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Sergeant Sazu wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: or any suit that's not at least proto at this time are just tools. There is no reason to stack or save ISK. There is no reason to only use proto or officer in pc matches. Burn them all in pubs, get 1.5M ISK payouts until you run out and then quit the game. The only ones I can understand still bringing out adv gear or lower are those that for some reason can't afford to run proto all day. If you have 30M ISK or more, you should be running proto and officer gear. If you are low on ISK, I will send you some. I have billions of ISK to burn and I don't play enough to do so. I see this is from the other thread. We'll continue here. :) I'm gonna be completely honest, I don't have the ISK to run perma-proto in a losing match. While I'm around 78m ISK, there's still plenty of time before the servers close. Losing a 150-200k suit several times when I'm on the wrong side of an officer stomp will add up pretty fast. Not super stacked on officer either, so I only pull it out when it looks like I won't die to BS; or vice versa, when there's more competition than starter fits. I run proto if it's an evenly matched battle or I'm being a logi for my corp bros (can't stand not having the best EQ). If the match is totally lopsided, I'm not gonna lose a million ISK for no reason. And if I'm on the stomping side, I'm not interested in making it worse by assisting in the prevention of the enemy leaving their redline. That simply isn't fun, and the purpose of a video game is diminished. So sure. To support your ideals, I'd happily accept a donation. I totally agree with you, while my wallet does not. 78M is more than enough to proto stomp. You can't proto stomp if you don't have the skills to fit the suit.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 10:52:00 - [4] - Quote XxBlazikenxX wrote: SOGZ PANDA wrote: DRAKEST HOUR wrote: Why care what other people run or how they play? Calm down dork. Because the game is closing and you literally have no excuse, other than you don't have a proto suit, or you can't afford it. Not to run it and have crazy battles. Stop being a ***** and fight till there is nothing left. Nothing we own will be transferred over. I agree, there is no longer any excuse to not bring your best to a fight. I myself have noticed much more even battles over the past couple of weeks with everyone bringing the best gear. I myself have noticed much more unbalanced battles over the past couple of weeks with everyone bringing the best gear - except for those that don't have it, can't fit it, and therefore don't run it. The matches I'm being put in are much more unbalanced now.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 10:58:00 - [5] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Justice Darling wrote: I try to us apex when I can, not to save money mind you, but to test my own skills, but some matches are so bad any more, I don't mind stomping the the stompers and showing them how little skill they really have I'm pretty sure it was you who earlier tonight stomped my team and I so hard I turned the game off after the match ended. The rage was real. This is what I don't like about stompers. They actually think it's a good thing!
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 496	Posted - 2016.02.17 11:01:00 - [6] - Quote DRAKEST HOUR wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DRAKEST HOUR wrote: Why care what other people run or how they play? Calm down dork. stupidity is a pet peeve of mind. I can dust it off but not all of the time. And using anything under proto because you want to save ISK at this point, is pretty stupid. I see your point and I agree that burning all proto/officer gear is a great idea, but I guess I don't understand why you care about what other people choose to do. You could just play how you want to and not worry about what other people are doing. I personally wouldn't mind running proto gear if I could actually fit it, but proto gear pretty much requires squadding, with others that are into stomping. That would seriously make me question my even playing the game.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 505	Posted - 2016.02.17 22:33:00 - [7] - Quote byte modal wrote: Honestly, I've thought about blowing my savings (as minimal as that is) on dropships. I've only ever toyed with them and can't fly to save my life, but saving my life at this point is a silly goal. Maybe I'll just buzz around crashing into random things, or ejecting over randoms to see what I can stir up. I always had a long term plan to be a dropship pilot. I even have a few and have ADS skills trained but then I discovered scouts and sort of went in a different direction. Now I'm having the same thoughts as you - it would be good to get into a dropship again and see what I could do with it.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 507	Posted - 2016.02.17 22:40:00 - [8] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DRAKEST HOUR wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: DRAKEST HOUR wrote: Why care what other people run or how they play? Calm down dork. stupidity is a pet peeve of mind. I can dust it off but not all of the time. And using anything under proto because you want to save ISK at this point, is pretty stupid. I see your point and I agree that burning all proto/officer gear is a great idea, but I guess I don't understand why you care about what other people choose to do. You could just play how you want to and not worry about what other people are doing. Maybe because of my character...I'm usually paired with the MLT wearing blues who gets raped from the start. No matter how well I do. Doesn't help my experience any. OK, but this is nothing to do with the MLT wearing blues, who probably are noobs anyway. This is to do with the fact you run solo, as do I. I worked out some time ago that matchmaking has an insidious facet to it. Someone in CCP thought it was a good idea to put all the available squads on the same side first, probably so gangs of squads could team up. Then the rest of that side and the other side are filled with solos. The result you get is one side populated with stomper gangs and the other populated with solos and noobs. If there's enough squads, both sides will have them but one side always seems to have more and dominate. The other problem is the way teams of noobs and solos are sent against teams of proto squads rather than other noobs. This is a matchmaking problem, Ydubbs, not a problem of people running BPOs instead of proto.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 510	Posted - 2016.02.17 22:51:00 - [9] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: or any suit that's not at least proto at this time are just tools. There is no reason to stack or save ISK. There is no reason to only use proto or officer in pc matches. Burn them all in pubs, get 1.5M ISK payouts until you run out and then quit the game. The only ones I can understand still bringing out adv gear or lower are those that for some reason can't afford to run proto all day. If you have 30M ISK or more, you should be running proto and officer gear. If you are low on ISK, I will send you some. I have billions of ISK to burn and I don't play enough to do so. How incredibly narrow your thinking is! How do you know everyone even has proto suits? I don't! I don't have the skills for them although I'm working really hard to get into them by the end. Now that I've discovered logis, I'm making lots of SP and ISK, so I should be in proto suits pretty soon, but right now, it's just not possible. I do have access to State LP proto suits, but I can't get into any CFW matches to get them, and all the AUR suits are just that, I can't buy them for ISK although I have plenty of ISK due to my running BPOs all the time. Don't rail against people who don't run proto just because you do. What makes you think you can tell people what they should run, anyway? It takes 3M sp to get a proto suit. and another ~3M to skill up operation and proficiency to level 5 of any weapon you choose. You mean to tell me, that guys that haven't been playing for 2 or 3 months don't have one single proto suit??? Besides, if you don't have the sp or if you only have 1M ISK or so in your wallet, then obviously you can't run it and my post wouldn't apply to you. I have 20m SP and over 190m ISK! But there are other things to spend SP on than suits! I focussed on core skills pretty early. Being an EvE player I understand that core skills are the important ones for EVERY suit you run. So my core skills and weapon skills, which are the ones essential for fitting ANY suit are very good - then there is the fact that there are so many different types of suits. I have level 3 in all Caldari Assault, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel and Commando. At least I've specialised in one race. You're talking about specialising in one suit!! How do you even know which suit to specialise in until you get good enough with them to work that out? To do that you have to have at least ADV skills. I'm only now working on getting Assault, Logistics and Scout to level 5. I can run State ck.0 suits with lvl 3 of each type but that necessarily means my bonuses will be down. You seem to make a lot of assumptions with your tirade against BPOs. Based on another of your posts, you want everyone wearing proto gear so your team will have proto gear. But that's just not going to happen, because of flaws in matchmaking. While there are noobs, running solo will put you in teams of noobs and they don't have the proto gear you want them to. Get over it.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 513	Posted - 2016.02.17 22:57:00 - [10] - Quote DEV Stupid Head wrote: I still run my Imperial Seraph and I love the damn thing Its more about not getting pissed off that I lost my "best proto" suit even though that doesnt make sense now..... I still use Militia weapons because I get off on killing people with them Love my Militia Magsec BPO This is why I love my Rasetsu, Hawk and now my Kampo (I finally got one in exchange for the Shogun I really shouldn't have bought). I love running these suits because they're good enough for purpose without dying before I have a chance to do anything, and they're free, so I don't have to worry about losing suits. And I find the Medic - CA is still the best MLT suit I have for both speed and weapons - again, because of that Militia MAGSEC! :) Edit: People who think fighting in the most expensive suit is the only way to go are missing an important point. Militia gear is actually quite good, if you learn to use it right. It's not the best, but it's still powerful enough to do the job.

Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 513	Posted - 2016.02.17 23:01:00 - [11] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: All of those points that you mention applies directly to me. All of my corp members left over a year ago. I usually run solo I don't use jump mods unless I have no choice. I'd rather use a shield extender or damage mod. I'm never hard to find...if a point is red, I'm usually there and hacking. I've never learned how to throw grenades...which is why I usually carry flux nades. And I've been using proto since the open beta. So, really there are no excuses. "I do it, therefore you can." I'm pretty sure that's a logical fallacy, not to mention that you didn't reciprocate all of my points. There are still some lurking variables. Such as the fact that you have limitless ISK, or you get better matches, or your gungame is better than mine. I'm a good player, but not a great one. The point is, I'm aware of how my choice of suits affects my wallet, and I know for certain that I'd run out before the game closes. If you'd make better use of 78m ISK, good on you. We're not the same people though. But he says elsewhere that he DOESN'T get better matches. He's annoyed that his team is usually populated by MLT blues, probably noobs, who couldn't fight in a proto suit even if they had one. His problem is with matchmaking, not with people not wearing proto.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 533	Posted - 2016.02.20 12:45:00 - [12] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: what are you saying? that the guys running MLT has the same chance as guys running proto? There are scrubs on both sides of every match. The team that has 8 guys going 2-50 is probably running MLT. You have a point...these guys are probably scrubs anyway but they'll stand a better chance vs the other team's scrubs with better gear. No, of course someone running MLT isn't going to be as good as a PRO, at least under the same circumstances. I never said that. If you read my posts I actually said that your problem is with matchmaking, which puts all the MLTs on your team.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 533	Posted - 2016.02.20 12:46:00 - [13] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: You're an EVE player? Nuff said. Really? So what does that mean?
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 533	Posted - 2016.02.20 12:53:00 - [14] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: DEV Stupid Head wrote: I still run my Imperial Seraph and I love the damn thing Its more about not getting pissed off that I lost my "best proto" suit even though that doesnt make sense now..... I still use Militia weapons because I get off on killing people with them Love my Militia Magsec BPO This is why I love my Rasetsu, Hawk and now my Kampo (I finally got one in exchange for the Shogun I really shouldn't have bought). I love running these suits because they're good enough for purpose without dying before I have a chance to do anything, and they're free, so I don't have to worry about losing suits. And I find the Medic - CA is still the best MLT suit I have for both speed and weapons - again, because of that Militia MAGSEC! :) Edit: People who think fighting in the most expensive suit is the only way to go are missing an important point. Militia gear is actually quite good, if you learn to use it right. It's not the best, but it's still powerful enough to do the job. In NO situation is MLT ever better than proto. MLT is better than proto when you fight better in MLT than in proto. Yes, proto gear is better per se, but the proto wearing player will not necessarily be better than in MLT. The main circumstance where MLT is better than proto is when the player knows they would lose their proto gear if they engage in a fight, so they avoid the fight. With MLT gear you can just dive in. I myself fight better in BPO suits, including MLTs, because I just dive into the fight without worrying about losing the suit. Yes, I know this is the end of Dust, but it takes a little more than that to change someone's fighting style and habits.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 533	Posted - 2016.02.20 13:15:00 - [15] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: why is profit still a motivating factor at this point? Stop saving your ISK..nothing will be transferred over to any game that CCP makes after Dust. And if you're getting redlined, proto is still better. Because if you're thinking of sneaking behind the enemy, then you have more space to fit cloaks, drop uplinks, scanners, codebreakers (if you're trying to speed hack the objective), etc. You have a better chance of winning 1v1s with guys hanging out not on the redline. Plus, you can fit stronger weapons and mods to kill people faster because you don't have time to dance with everyone when you don't have a team behind you. You really are being quite obtuse about this aren't you?! People fight with different styles. Some people don't uselessly waste suits, even if it's the end of Dust. There's many reasons for not doing so. I'll give you my most important reason. I'm still trying to get my Caldari Assault skills to 5. When I get them there, my suit and weapon bonuses will be better than they are now. I have Neo and State Peacekeeper suits which I've been using sparingly in preparation for the day I'll have all the bonuses I can get for them. By then, of course, I'll be able to buy ISK ck.0 suits and wear them. Even then, though, I will still only use them when my chances of losing them are low. I solo, which means I'm always on teams of solos and MLT noobs. That's the way matchmaking works - all the squads populate one side first, presumably so that multiple squads can team up together. As an aside, that probably explains why some squads leave the match right at the start - they see they didn't get on the "right" team with their cronies. Anyway, you really need to get off this drive to make everyone conform to your views on how people should use their suits. Just because you don't see or condone any reason why people aren't just burning their suits, doesn't mean others agree with you, or ever will.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 533	Posted - 2016.02.20 13:24:00 - [16] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: XxBlazikenxX wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: DEV Stupid Head wrote: I still run my Imperial Seraph and I love the damn thing Its more about not getting pissed off that I lost my "best proto" suit even though that doesnt make sense now..... I still use Militia weapons because I get off on killing people with them Love my Militia Magsec BPO This is why I love my Rasetsu, Hawk and now my Kampo (I finally got one in exchange for the Shogun I really shouldn't have bought). I love running these suits because they're good enough for purpose without dying before I have a chance to do anything, and they're free, so I don't have to worry about losing suits. And I find the Medic - CA is still the best MLT suit I have for both speed and weapons - again, because of that Militia MAGSEC! :) Edit: People who think fighting in the most expensive suit is the only way to go are missing an important point. Militia gear is actually quite good, if you learn to use it right. It's not the best, but it's still powerful enough to do the job. In NO situation is MLT ever better than proto. Not true, militia is better than proto when your team is being redlined, because you can literally die 20 times but still make a profit, which is not possible in a proto suit. why is profit still a motivating factor at this point? Stop saving your ISK..nothing will be transferred over to any game that CCP makes after Dust. And if you're getting redlined, proto is still better. Because if you're thinking of sneaking behind the enemy, then you have more space to fit cloaks, drop uplinks, scanners, codebreakers (if you're trying to speed hack the objective), etc. You have a better chance of winning 1v1s with guys hanging out not on the redline. Plus, you can fit stronger weapons and mods to kill people faster because you don't have time to dance with everyone when you don't have a team behind you. Why is profit still a motivating factor? Because Dust isn't dead yet, and some of us still want to be able to buy good suits when we can fit them. Obviously some already have all the suits and ISK they need, but others are not so lucky or started too late, like me. As for nothing being transferred over to Dust 2.0, you have no way to know that. CCP has been quite obscure about this point, saying they will keep some good things, and not others. How does that translate to "Nothing will be transferred"? Personally, I'm counting on as much as possible being transferred over, ISK, SP, skins, you name it, I want it. I worked for it, and as far as I'm concerned Dust SHOULD be persistent, so all these should be transferred over, no matter what you believe.