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Sergeant Sazu wrote:

Alena Asakura wrote:

KGB Sleep wrote:

Pre-Nerf Bolt Pistol.

I never had the pleasure of using the pre-nerf bolt pistol. All I know is the current one and it sucks. The damage is high, which is good but by the time it charges up and fires, the target has moved, so I have to precharge it and hope that I can keep track of the target while it completes to fire. And then I have to wait what feels like an abysmal time for it to cycle and decide to charge again. I've thought there might be some network lag problem, since I've seen vids that show people using the bolt pistol without any such cycling time, just the charge up. Unless of course, those vids are from pre-nerf.

In my noob days, I didn't know how rail weaponry worked. I though that large railguns had to be spooled for every shot. So there I was releasing the trigger every time I fired. You might be experiencing the same problem; just hold down the trigger on the bolt pistol and it will go full auto after spooling.

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Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.02.13 02:49:00 - [31] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: Rail Rifle Range>All Took long enough for someone to get it right. King Arthur and the holy grail rifle Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 12	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:48:00 - [32] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: ..... Magsec..... It's like an ARR in your pocket... Especially at prof 5. Hits out to 50m, too... Great sidearm. The reason why I consider it best is because it works so well, especially as a sidearm. Yeah I considered it recently, mainly for a shotty scout sidearm. Then I realized scrambler pistol has the lowest fitting requirements of any sidearm in the game and decided not to bother. But, magsec does have the second lowest. Maybe if I get enough SP today from double boosting I'll give it another chance at glory.
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 12	Posted - 2016.02.24 21:49:00 - [33] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: Rail Rifle Range>All Took long enough for someone to get it right. King Arthur and the holy grail rifle More like gayest weapon next to the Ass Driver.
John Demonsbane Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.02.24 22:14:00 - [34] - Quote Plz. Nothing can touch the beta Viziam. LR is the one truly unique weapon this game produced. There is no other answer. (The godfather of tactical logisticsGäó)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 22	Posted - 2016.02.24 22:26:00 - [35] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Plz. Nothing can touch the beta Viziam. LR is the one truly unique weapon this game produced. There is no other answer. I would say that but the highest meta Compressed 80GJ Blaster trumped ******* everything. Waves that dye the land gold. Blessed breath to nurture life in a land of wheat. A path the Sef descend drawn in ash.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 531	Posted - 2016.02.25 00:03:00 - [36] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: go. scrambler pistol. flawless sidearm for sentinels I second that. It's a weapon for a true marksman Moo...
Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 908	Posted - 2016.02.25 01:09:00 - [37] - Quote The Stabilized 80GJ Blaster was pretty lit. And them small Accelerated/Fragmented Missiles too. As for infantry, I agree with the other guy in that the CR has always been great but it always had something else to take the spotlight. Definitely my most-used rifle; aside from the pre-buff Breach AR. That was my baby, something to feel hipster about while still wrecking face without needing a nanohive. [92.6m SP] -The Swagmaster Logi- "Sazu is war points concentrated into a physical form." -CeeJ Mantis
SOGZ PANDA WarRavens Imperium Eden 318	Posted - 2016.02.25 04:45:00 - [38] - Quote Gek - 38. Timeless gun. Well until the game shuts down dust is life... ... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 1	Posted - 2016.02.25 07:15:00 - [39] - Quote Plasma Cannon. An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 21	Posted - 2016.02.25 09:21:00 - [40] - Quote True Adamance wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Plz. Nothing can touch the beta Viziam. LR is the one truly unique weapon this game produced. There is no other answer. I would say that but the highest meta Compressed 80GJ Blaster trumped ******* everything. Now that you mention it, best non-sidearm is the Forge Gun. Kills everything on the battlefield.

Lt Royal Subdreddit 3	Posted - 2016.02.25 09:47:00 - [41] - Quote Denchlad 7 wrote: Pre-Nerf Core Flaylock on the Calogi. If you know, you know. If not, you're still a noob to me. You mean when it was more effective than a Freedom Mass Driver and literally every scrub would use it just as they use the Plasma Cannon now? Also for me; any Militia weapon because they give you a higher chance for salty teared messages. Gÿ£Gÿ¡GÿP ------- Gÿ£Gÿ¡GÿP
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 21	Posted - 2016.02.25 09:49:00 - [42] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Pre-Nerf Core Flaylock on the Calogi. If you know, you know. If not, you're still a noob to me. You mean when it was more effective than a Freedom Mass Driver and literally every scrub would use it just as they use the Plasma Cannon now? best gun /=/ most op gun but some of you pubstars will never learn that
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 2	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:12:00 - [43] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: Lt Royal wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Pre-Nerf Core Flaylock on the Calogi. If you know, you know. If not, you're still a noob to me. You mean when it was more effective than a Freedom Mass Driver and literally every scrub would use it just as they use the Plasma Cannon now? best gun /=/ most op gun but some of you pubstars will never learn that Best Gun = Most Effective At the time, nothing could beat that thing. You'll only find me playing Destiny now. PSN: TheMysteriousEnd (PS4/PS3) XBL: Mystend 7 (XB1/360)
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 581	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:33:00 - [44] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Pre-Nerf Bolt Pistol. I never had the pleasure of using the pre-nerf bolt pistol. All I know is the current one and it sucks. The damage is high, which is good but by the time it charges up and fires, the target has moved, so I have to precharge it and hope that I can keep track of the target while it completes to fire. And then I have to wait what feels like an abysmal time for it to cycle and decide to charge again. I've thought there might be some network lag problem, since I've seen vids that show people using the bolt pistol without any such cycling time, just the charge up. Unless of course, those vids are from pre-nerf. These days, I just put a Militia Magsec SMG Blueprint on any suit that I need a good sidearm on, so that's my vote.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 581	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:37:00 - [45] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: ..... Magsec..... It's like an ARR in your pocket... Especially at prof 5. Hits out to 50m, too... Great sidearm. The reason why I consider it best is because it works so well, especially as a sidearm. Yes, it is really a superior weapon. Especially the Kaalakiota - wow, what a gun.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 581	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:41:00 - [46] - Quote Moochie Cricket wrote: Rail Rifle Range>All Yes, the RR is pretty good, and range is just unsurpassable, other than with the SR. BUT... I find it very hard to use at close range. Hipfiring is really ridiculous, with it kicking all over the place. On the Caldari standard suits, it's teamed with the bolt pistol which is almost more useless. Makes me think that CCP has something against Caldari! Anyway, I find if I put a Magsec on the suit with a RR I can cover all ranges without too much trouble.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 581	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:42:00 - [47] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Moochie Cricket wrote: Rail Rifle Range>All Except against sniper rifles and forge guns xD The problem with SRs and FGs is that hardly anyone uses them, FGs because you can only use them on a heavy and SRs because, well, SRs. For most people, using a RR with ADS is almost like sniping.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 581	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:44:00 - [48] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: ..... Magsec..... It's like an ARR in your pocket... Especially at prof 5. Hits out to 50m, too... Great sidearm. The reason why I consider it best is because it works so well, especially as a sidearm. Yeah I considered it recently, mainly for a shotty scout sidearm. Then I realized scrambler pistol has the lowest fitting requirements of any sidearm in the game and decided not to bother. But, magsec does have the second lowest. Maybe if I get enough SP today from double boosting I'll give it another chance at glory. Believe me you won't regret it. Get it prof to level 5 and get into the Kaala and you'll be amazed.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 581	Posted - 2016.02.26 10:48:00 - [49] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Denchlad 7 wrote: Pre-Nerf Core Flaylock on the Calogi. If you know, you know. If not, you're still a noob to me. You mean when it was more effective than a Freedom Mass Driver and literally every scrub would use it just as they use the Plasma Cannon now? Also for me; any Militia weapon because they give you a higher chance for salty teared messages. Oh yeah. Most people don't get that the Militia versions of any proto weapon are only 10% less powerful, and if you can shoot them just that little big longer, it will kill just as effectively. I have a Gallente alt with a Raven Scout and all militia fittings, a militia AR and a militia Magsec. Just amazing what that combo can do.
Sergeant Sazu Mantodea MC 911	Posted - 2016.02.26 15:45:00 - [50] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Pre-Nerf Bolt Pistol. I never had the pleasure of using the pre-nerf bolt pistol. All I know is the current one and it sucks. The damage is high, which is good but by the time it charges up and fires, the target has moved, so I have to precharge it and hope that I can keep track of the target while it completes to fire. And then I have to wait what feels like an abysmal time for it to cycle and decide to charge again. I've thought there might be some network lag problem, since I've seen vids that show people using the bolt pistol without any such cycling time, just the charge up. Unless of course, those vids are from pre-nerf. In my noob days, I didn't know how rail weaponry worked. I though that large railguns had to be spooled for every shot. So there I was releasing the trigger every time I fired. You might be experiencing the same problem; just hold down the trigger on the bolt pistol and it will go full auto after spooling. [92.6m SP] -The Swagmaster Logi- "Sazu is war points concentrated into a physical form." -CeeJ Mantis

XxWarlordxX97 0.P. 4	Posted - 2016.02.26 17:23:00 - [51] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: go. scrambler pistol. flawless sidearm for sentinels Assault SCR and normal SCR Armor tanked heavies are pathetic, Bring out someone to challenge me
Jenny Tales Eternal Beings I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 48	Posted - 2016.02.26 20:28:00 - [52] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Believe me you won't regret it. Get it prof to level 5 and get into the Kaala and you'll be amazed. no i decided gallente is superior
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 590	Posted - 2016.02.26 23:26:00 - [53] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Pre-Nerf Bolt Pistol. I never had the pleasure of using the pre-nerf bolt pistol. All I know is the current one and it sucks. The damage is high, which is good but by the time it charges up and fires, the target has moved, so I have to precharge it and hope that I can keep track of the target while it completes to fire. And then I have to wait what feels like an abysmal time for it to cycle and decide to charge again. I've thought there might be some network lag problem, since I've seen vids that show people using the bolt pistol without any such cycling time, just the charge up. Unless of course, those vids are from pre-nerf. In my noob days, I didn't know how rail weaponry worked. I though that large railguns had to be spooled for every shot. So there I was releasing the trigger every time I fired. You might be experiencing the same problem; just hold down the trigger on the bolt pistol and it will go full auto after spooling. No I get that. I thought the same initially, because it would fire and then go dead. Turns out I just had to keep my finger on the trigger and it would wake up again. The problem is there's a lag - I don't mean the charge time, an actual lag between the thing firing and it starting to charge again. The charge time is something like .5s, so it should fire at a rate something like twice a second or 120 per minute, but no, I'm lucky if I get 60 per minute, and that's full auto. I've thought perhaps it might have something to do with network lag, since I'm in Australia and quite a distance from any server. The closest one is probably the Asian server but it's usually quiet as a mouse and I have to connect to either Europe or America to get a battle. I haven't noticed a difference in the lag between those two servers, but the network distance to them is probably roughly the same in any case. What I think might be happening is if there is some sort of delay built into it, some sort of feedback loop involving messaging from the battle server that could be causing it to wait until it receives the OK signal, that would explain the lag. Why they would put something like that into the mechanics I don't know. Another possibility is that it's just part of the nerf of the bolt pistol I keep hearing about. Does anyone else experience a lag when the thing's firing full auto? If I fire it manually, it charges and fires immediately. It's only if I'm using it on auto that there's a lag.
Alena Asakura Caldari Logistics Reserve 590	Posted - 2016.02.26 23:28:00 - [54] - Quote Jenny Tales wrote: Alena Asakura wrote: Believe me you won't regret it. Get it prof to level 5 and get into the Kaala and you'll be amazed. no i decided gallente is superior It is. I decided that myself with an alt that only has less than half the SP this alt does but is far better in CQC. It's both the armour and the AR, I've decided. Both are superior for CQC.
DanielCM TO THE DEATH 43	Posted - 2016.02.27 00:05:00 - [55] - Quote Plasma Cannon. Whatever the situation, it just puts a smile on your face when you get a kill with it.


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