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Murder Medic wrote:

Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote:

Windows 10 is Amazing, although I'll never ever allow it to ever install a CCP game, If shows promise. Comes with a built in Game DVR, Xbox Compatibility, Xbox One Streaming.

It seems everyone hates it due to Microsoft "spying" on them. Honestly it's only to improve their product. Everyone Spies. Get over it. Facebook does it, the Apps you install do it. Hell, Apple does it all the time.

I like windows 10 but it keeps gobbling up my RAM :/ I've tweaked all kinds of **** and it just slowly fills up till I have to restart. It might not even be Windows 10 at this point, could just be a memory leak somewhere. Whatever it is it's really annoying.

deo volente2 wrote:

you think ccp's new game will work on a lowly laptop, you are mental, you'll need a top end stand alone pc to play, as they want it to be 'future proof', so that means running at the top end spec (2 years from now) so you'd all better start saving,

I strongly doubt that. A game like Star Citizen will require top end, but I really doubt this game will be too hard on machines.

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Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 799	Posted - 2016.02.07 15:05:00 - [1] - Quote I can keep windows XP... And Have a profile as small as the LGX12. ... Impossible, isn't it? Guess i have to go get a PS4 and play Planetside 2 with my corpmates. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 576	Posted - 2016.02.07 15:15:00 - [2] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: I can keep windows XP... And Have a profile as small as the LGX12. ... Impossible, isn't it? Guess i have to go get a PS4 and play Planetside 2 with my corpmates. You could always get linux with the windows XP skin / emulator.
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 800	Posted - 2016.02.07 15:18:00 - [3] - Quote Hmm! That's very true! Just how many things run on linux compared to windows Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
LOOKMOM NOHANDS 576	Posted - 2016.02.07 15:21:00 - [4] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: Hmm! That's very true! Just how many things run on linux compared to windows WINE has actually come a very very long ways. There are few windows programs that can not be run in wine. Beware tho that some high end games will have trouble running in WINE just because of the load generated and sub optimal core use.
byte modal 489	Posted - 2016.02.07 18:45:00 - [5] - Quote Honest question: why? kitten bacon taco (nom)
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 801	Posted - 2016.02.07 22:25:00 - [6] - Quote Too used to XP, and I don't like the look of windows 8/10. Small because my bag is usually full from all the textbooks I carry with me Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
DAMIOS82 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 172	Posted - 2016.02.07 22:34:00 - [7] - Quote Get one with win 8, then install a classic start menu ( aka classic Shell it is a start menu that can mimic the menu behavior of Win XP and Windows 7). That's what i done for me and my brother, gives the benefits of win 8, with out all those dreadfull menu's.
Apocalyptic Destroyerr Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.02.07 22:53:00 - [8] - Quote Windows 10 is Amazing, although I'll never ever allow it to ever install a CCP game, If shows promise. Comes with a built in Game DVR, Xbox Compatibility, Xbox One Streaming. It seems everyone hates it due to Microsoft "spying" on them. Honestly it's only to improve their product. Everyone Spies. Get over it. Facebook does it, the Apps you install do it. Hell, Apple does it all the time. Use it ----> Abuse It ----> Nerf !!! a¦á_a¦á Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.08 04:33:00 - [9] - Quote Windows 7 is still the best <3 The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
SOGZ PANDA WarRavens Imperium Eden 274	Posted - 2016.02.08 05:44:00 - [10] - Quote I'm surprised you don't like windows 7. Pretty close to xp with less of the app garbage of windows 10. Interface is easy to use as well dust is life... ... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.

jordy mack WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2016.02.08 09:32:00 - [11] - Quote so your trying to decide laptop or ps4? apples and oranges. if not... i'm confused, if your think your going to get a cheap/small laptop that runs games well for less than a ps4 costs, good luck, there will be trade offs somewhere. size / price / performance you can choose 2. :) Less QQ more PewPew
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 4	Posted - 2016.02.08 10:43:00 - [12] - Quote Laptops are notorious for being overpriced compared to their tower brother's. You can build a tower more powerful than a ps4 for -ú500. A laptop your gonna spend about -ú700 easy to get to ps4 quality. The most abusive northerner. currently reading clockwork vampires by andy remic. A terra bad/awesome author
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 805	Posted - 2016.02.08 10:43:00 - [13] - Quote jordy mack wrote: so your trying to decide laptop or ps4? apples and oranges. if not... i'm confused, if your think your going to get a cheap/small laptop that runs games well for less than a ps4 costs, good luck, there will be trade offs somewhere. size / price / performance you can choose 2. :) Noo, i wish for a laptop that's small... And sadly uses outdated software like XP. Price had nothing to do with it. Although, I'm not trying to spend a ton of money. The real issue is battery life.. Nothing will be able to compare to what my current laptop has. It's old yes, but I have around 7-8 hrs of battery when full power saving, and 3-4 hrs in high performance (although it's performance is pretty poor according to today's standards) Yes, Windows 7 is nice looking, and it's actually not too bad (my mother's laptop uses it), but my Theory was this: "old software was written using old technology... If I put new technology with old software, the performance will have a serious improvement in all aspects since the older technology uses far less resources to run." Like when I upgraded my ram from 1 to 2 GB. It's like a brand new computer again! Imagine using 2 GB of ram now? It's like suicide on newer computers. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 805	Posted - 2016.02.08 10:47:00 - [14] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Laptops are notorious for being overpriced compared to their tower brother's. You can build a tower more powerful than a ps4 for -ú500. A laptop your gonna spend about -ú700 easy to get to ps4 quality. Makes sense, but if I'm spending money on a computer, it better have more use than just for gaming. School, and personal use too. No tower will be able to come along with me LOL. Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!
byte modal 493	Posted - 2016.02.08 15:39:00 - [15] - Quote I imagine you would run into driver issues with old software/new tech. I dunno. You could always get a nifty lil Surface Pro 3. With the 4 out, prices are dropping on last gen. Touch/pen tablet/latop hybrid, VERY stylish and mobile, removable cover keyboard, expandable with docking station for ports and additional monitor outs, etc. Not sure what OS the SP3 has, but specs are pretty good for what it is. Too, the Microsoft store offers student discounts either 10-20%, I can't remember. Use it to make hand-written notes during class, and game on it in the evening. Like Jordy said though, there's always a trade-off. Size for price for performance; though being last gen, you will have more leeway to get more of each for the price of a lesser current model. Just putting it out there. Good luck to your hunt. kitten bacon taco (nom)
deo volente2 SVER True Blood RUST415 32	Posted - 2016.02.08 16:13:00 - [16] - Quote you think ccp's new game will work on a lowly laptop, you are mental, you'll need a top end stand alone pc to play, as they want it to be 'future proof', so that means running at the top end spec (2 years from now) so you'd all better start saving, too busy playing
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 617	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:18:00 - [17] - Quote Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Windows 10 is Amazing, although I'll never ever allow it to ever install a CCP game, If shows promise. Comes with a built in Game DVR, Xbox Compatibility, Xbox One Streaming. It seems everyone hates it due to Microsoft "spying" on them. Honestly it's only to improve their product. Everyone Spies. Get over it. Facebook does it, the Apps you install do it. Hell, Apple does it all the time. I like windows 10 but it keeps gobbling up my RAM :/ I've tweaked all kinds of ** and it just slowly fills up till I have to restart. It might not even be Windows 10 at this point, could just be a memory leak somewhere. Whatever it is it's really annoying. deo volente2 wrote:** you think ccp's new game will work on a lowly laptop, you are mental, you'll need a top end stand alone pc to play, as they want it to be 'future proof', so that means running at the top end spec (2 years from now) so you'd all better start saving, I strongly doubt that. A game like Star Citizen will require top end, but I really doubt this game will be too hard on machines. Farewell DUST
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:22:00 - [18] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Laptops are notorious for being overpriced compared to their tower brother's. You can build a tower more powerful than a ps4 for -ú500. A laptop your gonna spend about -ú700 easy to get to ps4 quality. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3099805#post3099805 Some help with that Comprehensive PC building guide
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:23:00 - [19] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Apocalyptic Destroyerr wrote: Windows 10 is Amazing, although I'll never ever allow it to ever install a CCP game, If shows promise. Comes with a built in Game DVR, Xbox Compatibility, Xbox One Streaming. It seems everyone hates it due to Microsoft "spying" on them. Honestly it's only to improve their product. Everyone Spies. Get over it. Facebook does it, the Apps you install do it. Hell, Apple does it all the time. I like windows 10 but it keeps gobbling up my RAM :/ I've tweaked all kinds of ** and it just slowly fills up till I have to restart. It might not even be Windows 10 at this point, could just be a memory leak somewhere. Whatever it is it's really annoying. deo volente2 wrote:** you think ccp's new game will work on a lowly laptop, you are mental, you'll need a top end stand alone pc to play, as they want it to be 'future proof', so that means running at the top end spec (2 years from now) so you'd all better start saving, I strongly doubt that. A game like Star Citizen will require top end, but I really doubt this game will be too hard on machines. Uh, that's not a memory leak. That's compressed memory. It shows up as "System" in task manager. It's a feature that's been around on OSX for a while, and Windows just caught up. Comprehensive PC building guide
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 617	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:26:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Uh, that's not a memory leak. That's compressed memory. It shows up as "System" in task manager. It's a feature that's been around on OSX for a while, and Windows just caught up. That makes it use like 28 gbs of ram? Honestly I don't have any idea what I'm doing so you're probably right, but when I restart I'm at about 5% RAM then by the end of the day I'm usually at 50%, then the next day or two it goes up to 90% and I have to restart to get it to go back down. My computer is way too good for an illiterate like me haha Farewell DUST

Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 19	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:31:00 - [21] - Quote Murder Medic wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Uh, that's not a memory leak. That's compressed memory. It shows up as "System" in task manager. It's a feature that's been around on OSX for a while, and Windows just caught up. That makes it use like 28 gbs of ram? Honestly I don't have any idea what I'm doing so you're probably right, but when I restart I'm at about 5% RAM then by the end of the day I'm usually at 50%, then the next day or two it goes up to 90% and I have to restart to get it to go back down. (RAM does not reduce when I shut down, only when I restart) My computer is way too good for an illiterate like me haha What is your usage? The more you use RAM, the more Windows will compress it. I get the most compressed RAM when I use Photoshop, After Effects or Premiere. Comprehensive PC building guide
Sequal's Back Dead Man's Game Preatoriani 2	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:42:00 - [22] - Quote Get windows 7 or 10. 7 is xp in much better, better looking and user friendly, and compatible to every games out there.(and the majority of software) Game over.
Murder Medic Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 618	Posted - 2016.02.08 17:45:00 - [23] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Murder Medic wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Uh, that's not a memory leak. That's compressed memory. It shows up as "System" in task manager. It's a feature that's been around on OSX for a while, and Windows just caught up. That makes it use like 28 gbs of ram? Honestly I don't have any idea what I'm doing so you're probably right, but when I restart I'm at about 5% RAM then by the end of the day I'm usually at 50%, then the next day or two it goes up to 90% and I have to restart to get it to go back down. (RAM does not reduce when I shut down, only when I restart) My computer is way too good for an illiterate like me haha What is your usage? The more you use RAM, the more Windows will compress it. I get the most compressed RAM when I use Photoshop, After Effects or Premiere. Not very much really, I just use firefox and play like Fallout 4 or Blade and Soul or whatever. It just kind of steadily raises itself. I used to use the Adobe stuff but I'm currently a dirty poor and won't torrent **** lol. Which is kind of lame cuz AE and Premiere are great tools to use. Farewell DUST
DAMIOS82 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 174	Posted - 2016.02.09 02:19:00 - [24] - Quote Sounds like a memory leak, you would have to look in the Task Manager (Resource Monitor) to find out what program is using up the memory and then go from there. Memory leaks are defect programs. So if it is the system, it could have happened when you did an update, etc perhaps. So try rolling back or if that does not help reinstall. However if its a different program like a torrent downloader, firefox etc. then remove that and it should be ok. Third option would be malware.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 7	Posted - 2016.02.09 02:39:00 - [25] - Quote Shamarskii Simon wrote: I can keep windows XP... And Have a profile as small as the LGX12. ... Impossible, isn't it? Guess i have to go get a PS4 and play Planetside 2 with my corpmates. Why not just keep running Windows XP? Something tells me CCP is unlikely to move beyond DirectX 9 given that Direct3D 10 was a waste of time and DirectX 11 only added tesselation, which doesn't even make that much of a difference really. I wouldn't know anything about DirectX 12, but unless they actually tried to innovate this time, I wouldn't hold my breath on CCP adopting it. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
SgtDoughnut Intara Direct Action Caldari State 613	Posted - 2016.02.09 03:32:00 - [26] - Quote Get either 8 or 10 and install classic she'll.
SgtDoughnut Intara Direct Action Caldari State 613	Posted - 2016.02.09 03:35:00 - [27] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Shamarskii Simon wrote: I can keep windows XP... And Have a profile as small as the LGX12. ... Impossible, isn't it? Guess i have to go get a PS4 and play Planetside 2 with my corpmates. Why not just keep running Windows XP? Something tells me CCP is unlikely to move beyond DirectX 9 given that Direct3D 10 was a waste of time and DirectX 11 only added tesselation, which doesn't even make that much of a difference really. I wouldn't know anything about DirectX 12, but unless they actually tried to innovate this time, I wouldn't hold my breath on CCP adopting it. 12 is actually a big jump. When AMD was showcasing mantle Microsoft implemented many of Mantle's features into dx12
Shamarskii Simon The Hundred Acre Hood 806	Posted - 2016.02.09 05:00:00 - [28] - Quote Some people actually understand what I mean. Well, I'll break it to you guys... Until my current XP laptop gives up... I won't really be moving into the new world. Some people understand what I meant though, like XP would be "lighter" that newer windows... One mentioned go linux + WINE. Some say Win 7 is the end all be all; It's like XP w/ support. Price vs performance vs size.... Pretty hard choice... I could only get 2 of the 3. I don't like the lil tablet hybrid thingy... Plus LOL I'm a lil old fashioned and have a note book for dedicated school notes, and my Galaxy Note for quick written notes. Still, I'll take it in consideration when it's time to upgrade! Potential Pilot Proposal? Yes!


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