DUST Search - What makes logical sense to transfer to the next iteration?

Aero Yassavi wrote:

Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:

What would make sense is SP, aur, and all bpos.

Isk and assets should start fresh. That's and the SP for all vets should net be returned till after x time.

Or of they do t pass over our SP, then atleast x SO to begin with for example all vets get 30m sp.

Aside from that, aur boosters, skins, bpos, all that type of stuff should be passed over to new game.

Skill points should definitely not transfer. For one, we have no clue what the me skill system will look like but I'm sure it won't be a 1:1 conversion. Also they have been giving away SP like crazy to help keep get the funds to keep the dream alive. It was a good call, but we definitely need a reset in that regards.

Similarly Aurum will give too much of an advantage. You bought it and used it already, let's just leave it at that.

And lastly, BPOs. BPOs are the plague and take away the biggest differentiator this game has. Let's just aloud that all together. A skin replacement perhaps.


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Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2016.02.03 22:40:00 - [1] - Quote Resetting ISK is fine. Resetting SP? I'm against that. Some people have poured years into their progression. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2016.02.03 22:49:00 - [2] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Lightning35 Delta514 wrote: What would make sense is SP, aur, and all bpos. Isk and assets should start fresh. That's and the SP for all vets should net be returned till after x time. Or of they do t pass over our SP, then atleast x SO to begin with for example all vets get 30m sp. Aside from that, aur boosters, skins, bpos, all that type of stuff should be passed over to new game. Skill points should definitely not transfer. For one, we have no clue what the me skill system will look like but I'm sure it won't be a 1:1 conversion. Also they have been giving away SP like crazy to help keep get the funds to keep the dream alive. It was a good call, but we definitely need a reset in that regards. Similarly Aurum will give too much of an advantage. You bought it and used it already, let's just leave it at that. And lastly, BPOs. BPOs are the plague and take away the biggest differentiator this game has. Let's just aloud that all together. A skin replacement perhaps. What you are essentially advocating is a complete loss of all the effort and investment that people have poured into this game. I can understand the arguments against ISK. It simply wouldn't integrate into the EVE economy, although honestly DUST quantities of ISK are relatively negligible. SP, on the other hand, is a direct measure of people's investment into the game. 'Giving away SP like crazy' is not even close to accurate. If people paid money to accelerate their SP gain, so what? It means they poured their love and money into the game. SP doesn't have to transfer at a 1:1 ratio, or anything even near. But it would be a final, grave insult to the DUST community to tell them that everything they've worked for and paid for over the past few years has been completely erased, and say 'you get a cosmetic skin and that's all you get'. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2016.02.03 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Also, I know this will be controversial, but Dust vets need to take one for the team. Having vets start with an SP advantage is a good way to scare away new players to a new game. Unless the balancing is completely screwed up and vets are somehow able to annihilate hundreds of players solo, this is not a concern. The port has an effectively guaranteed playerbase of EVE vets who by far outnumber any token numbers of DUST vets trickling over. If veterans being able to outperform newbies is a serious, game-killing concern, then that is a fundamental issue with the game that will not go away ever, regardless of whether or not you erase progress initially. What about a year later, when many people have a decent standard of progression? Will you erase progress again, to avoid scaring off the newbies? Either the very existence of progression is a huge problem in the game design, or there is no problem with having older players amongst the new. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2016.02.03 23:34:00 - [4] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Easy counter argument. There's a huge difference between gaining players at launch and post launch. Sure. And erasing the existing playerbase is an excellent way to slash initial numbers. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 28	Posted - 2016.02.04 00:57:00 - [5] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Easy counter argument. There's a huge difference between gaining players at launch and post launch. Sure. And erasing the existing playerbase is an excellent way to slash initial numbers. you really going to not play at all? Is this your line in the sand? It's possible, honestly. To have spent so much time on the promise of a persistent sandbox only to have everything torn away is no small blow. Everything has to come to an end, sometime.