Yes I know the excuse, "It's a new game." That only goes so far when you use the same assets and same core concept.

Skill points and ISK make sense to ignore, we need a good reset there. But what about other stuff?

1) Character names. I'd say all existing Dust character names need to be reserved up until a few months after Dust PC's launch.
2) Loyalty ranks. Not necessarily in the same form as now, but assuming CCP does something similar then absolutely.
3) Faction standings. If Faction Warfare is still a thing, and it should be, then definitely transfer that. Even if it's a different system, try to put the equivalent standing earned.
4) Skins. I'm damn sure will have the same dropsuit models. There'd be an outrage if we didn't. So why not transfer the skins?
5) Character creation date. If you link your account to your psn account then why not use that creation date for fun?

Everything else I understand. But stuff like this is simple enough and shouldn't interfere at all.

In the current state of SP there is no more specialization which this game was supposed to be about. We need to get back to that.

Also, I know this will be controversial, but Dust vets need to take one for the team. Having vets start with an SP advantage is a good way to scare away new players to a new game.

It's possible, honestly.

To have spent so much time on the promise of a persistent sandbox only to have everything torn away is no small blow.

More neck beard/console teenager entitlement posts......

NOTHING WILL OR SHOULD TRANSFER. Expect some vanity items at best, and in truth pray they even actually develop a new game.

Learn to grow up and let things go. This was not a job and you did nothing but play a game. You don't deserve anything, and most games deliver much less than a second chance when they die. The act of playing and the entertainment that provided is the ******* point of the game. Not a means to an end. If you can't grasp that concept don't play any MMO that accumulates XP and wealth. You will only be disappointed again.

Never seen so many people whine about imaginary stuff. We all played. We all have time and some of us actual money invested in Dust, but the truth is that's the point. WE WERE ENTERTAINED. It was the playing of the game you were supposed to be here for. Some of you kids had some idea that you can WIN dust. You can't. The climb is the point. There is no top to work to, and even if you max out SP on here...then what? You still just play the game.

So my suggestion to all the "please give me my XXX" crowd is really just grow up. Stop cluttering the boards with **** and realize its not going to happen and if it did it would kill the new game at conception. Enjoy your vanity items and just hope we actually get to use them. It could be years before they actually release anything if at all.

There is no player base. 2000-4000 people are not worth alienating 200,000. If you take out the third world players (who spend nothing on average) you have even less actual money spending players left. The PC world is full of bright NEW players with wallets that have disposable income and they will not come is they are already second class citizens from the launch. Put yourself in their shoes. Joining a game after release does not have the same expectations as when it releases.

You can have your illusion of continuum or you can have a game. I am in favor as a real world person of the later. I can pretend the rest like I am supposed to with a game.

Name, loyalty rank and bpo/skins. I think it would be bad for new players to have to run against the same proto stomp problem right off the bat. Since it's a "new" game on a different platform then it should be treated as such to an extent. There's to much to fix that can be fixed to expect or want a carbon copy on the PC. More racial weapons and vehicles, which there should be, would mess with the skill tree. Anything new introduced would mess with the tree period, let alone if anything gets axed. New game new, skill grind, everyone start at bottom. But we should be able to keep the things that we worked for that won't kill off new players before they fall for this game. Building the player base should be #1 in all decisions concerning what transfers and what is turned to dust.

If it is a sandbox open universe like they always said this game would be. Not a lobby shooter like it still is, then proto stomping is not going to be the concern. If this game is tied into the eve economy then all isk in dust will be moot. Bpo's already exist in eve and ours can be made to have to be built like in eve. So again moot. But if we have to start over, then everyone will know it is a matter of time before they kill your character and make you start over AGAIN! That is why most of us are here, for an ongoing universe. That is the one reason I play this and have paid so much money.also with skill point extraction coming to eve, if implemented in new dust along with the player market, noobs can start with good skills and level fast. I cannot stop them from biomassing us, but If that will be the case then I will not play another ccp product.

Why should an SP advantage scare them away? Surely the majority of game modes will be meta locked in some way Otherwise by your logic, why would new players join after 12 months when everyone has an SP advantage??

Seriously don't carry over the mistakes FFS!

Hilariously this topic reminds me of buying the baby's wardrobe before you even get an ultrasound to find out what gender it is.

We don't yet know what items will be valid for transfer yet. As this is a new game, not all of the mechanical considerations you assume for dust may make it. Some undoubtedly will. But some things will undoubtedly change.

Don't know how yet.

The announcement said loyal players will get tired loyalty rewards. After those details are released, we'll move forward.

But there is no guarantee that my C-1 calsent BPO which I love so dearly will have a mechanical analog.

Analog for the sentinel? Probably.

BPO mechanics? We do not know yet.

Hell, I don't even know how the core systems will play out. It's too early.

It's not bad to give a wishlist, and I'm not going to discourage people from presenting and discussing such. Just bear in mind that the baby ain't born yet, and the gender ain't finalized. Hang onto the clothing and decorating budget till we have more intel to share.