DUST Search - Announcement:The Future of DUST 514

Stefan Stahl wrote:

Hi.

First of, I'd like to say I appreciate the announcement on the forums. Well done everyone involved.

This wasn't very a surprising announcement, but I'm glad the news is out now. I'm fairly disappointed about not being able to continue playing my favorite game after the end of may though. I've been playing Dust 514 without much of a break at all since the closed beta, so that'll be new.

I read from the announcement that the new game will be completely new and made from scratch, Rattati even quoted the clarification of that. This tells me that the new game is indeed fairly early in production. I worry that the length of time between the end of Dust 514 and the beginning of the spiritual successor will be very long. What are the CPMs expectations? I assume CCP will not have shared any information on that, so you should be good to vent some opinions. How do you hope the transition phase to work?

Personally I hope CCP will be able to keep some of their Dust 514 community together for feedback. I already have some thoughts I'd like to share, but I don't think this is the right time for that. It is my belief that Dust 514 player feedback can be very helpful to the design of the new game.

I'm looking forward to fanfest.

P.S.: I'm very much emotionally attached to some items (Skinweave suits, anyone?). I will likely spend money on any game that has hem, regardless of platform and genre.

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 12	Posted - 2016.02.05 00:52:00 - [1] - Quote Stefan Stahl wrote: Hi. First of, I'd like to say I appreciate the announcement on the forums. Well done everyone involved. This wasn't very a surprising announcement, but I'm glad the news is out now. I'm fairly disappointed about not being able to continue playing my favorite game after the end of may though. I've been playing Dust 514 without much of a break at all since the closed beta, so that'll be new. I read from the announcement that the new game will be completely new and made from scratch, Rattati even quoted the clarification of that. This tells me that the new game is indeed fairly early in production. I worry that the length of time between the end of Dust 514 and the beginning of the spiritual successor will be very long. What are the CPMs expectations? I assume CCP will not have shared any information on that, so you should be good to vent some opinions. How do you hope the transition phase to work? Personally I hope CCP will be able to keep some of their Dust 514 community together for feedback. I already have some thoughts I'd like to share, but I don't think this is the right time for that. It is my belief that Dust 514 player feedback can be very helpful to the design of the new game. I'm looking forward to fanfest. P.S.: I'm very much emotionally attached to some items (Skinweave suits, anyone?). I will likely spend money on any game that has hem, regardless of platform and genre. Actually, it's probably not going to be too long before closed beta invites start. CCP Frame said that this New Eden FPS for the PC is an evolution of Project Legion. And since we know that Project Legion was already in development even before Fanfest 2014, I suspect progress will be a little quicker even if they truly are starting over from scratch. They now have the experience and should probably keep those same people who salvaged Dust. This way legacy code will finally be gone, lessons will be learned, and we can finally have the New Eden FPS we always dreamed of. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.02.27 05:46:00 - [2] - Quote Banished Reaper wrote: Extreme and untter disappointment. All my loyalty towards Dust 514 on PC+Ps3 and the respect I had for CCP for taking such a step, falters. I am a console only player, and with the time and money and dedication to the game I love, finding out the upgrade obsoletes us loyal console players is terrible. As well as everyone who plays the yet to be released for PC already having recognized rewards while I miss out is honest unfair. It was a great run. The game continued to amaze me. And never again will I get to play another "Dust", or the new one when it releases. Thanks, and farewell. That is not a fair thing to say about CCP given the situation at hand. Sure, it may have been preferred to have a PC+PS4 version of the new game, but you are ignoring the fact that CCP Shanghai can only devote so much resource to that new game while Eve Valkyrie is in development and all attention is on VR at the moment. So CCP probably had to make a choice of one or the other but not both due to resources. But I feel it wasn't just the availability of resources that might have caused CCP to go the PC-only route. I highly suspect that the FUBAR'ed launch of Dust 514 back in May 14 of 2013 along with the announcement of Project Legion for PC a year after that at Fanfest 2014 have very much likely sealed the fate of the future of Dust's legacy. I don't speak for anyone here but myself, but the general consensus here on the forums is that everyone has been seeing a bunch of writing on the walls almost 2 years prior to the recent announcement of the New Eden FPS for PC (Not-Legion basically). That is a long lead time. So for you to say that you are extremely and utterly disappointed in hearing about a PC-only port (or rebuild in this case) only tells me that it's likely you imagined CCP going to port the game over to the PS4 regardless of all the writing on the walls. As I told others before you, if Fanfest 2014 as well as Fanfest 2015 were not red flags for you, then I don't know what is. To me and plenty of others here, it was extremely and utterly obvious that CCP was going the PC-only route for the new game. I had hoped that I was wrong about that. That maybe CCP would continue to change its mind like always and decide "hey, we're making a PC and PS4 version" and it would have been great to have the new game on both platforms. But unfortunately my suspicions were correct. The likelihood of having a PC+PS4 port was just NOT likely. Again, writing on the walls. ======== Also, and I want to put this out there, I hate this mentality that some players have where they think that one MUST choose only one side when it comes to the PC and Console debate. In fact, I hate this entire PC vs Console debate down to its very core. I am not in anyways obligated to choose a side. My hardware is predominantly console (Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony) but I have an expensive gaming rig and I don't mind playing my games on either of them. I am the sort of player who wants to enjoy the best of what both worlds have to offer. I am never going to willfully deprive myself of the pleasure of having to try so many games from so many platforms. The standardized hardware of the consoles showed me the benefits of keeping things simple and affordable while the complexity of PC gaming rigs have taught me how to think and learn while encouraging creativity. As you can see both platforms have a place in my heart and I will never let that go because both have taught me the pros and cons of both worlds. In putting them together, one's pros can negate the cons of the other. If you really want to stay as a console player only, fine. That's your choice. But don't say that it is "honest unfair" that you will miss out. At the very least the legacy of Dust will continue and that is something I hoped for above all else. Your record has already been etched into the very killboard that Eve Online players enjoy access and will continue to be there for years to come long after Dust is dead. And at least some players who are able to move to PC will get something out of this in return for their participating these past 3 years. You think this is honest unfair? Take a look at PlayStation@Home. No one got their refund from that. No one's legacy got carried over. The Event Horizon lounge (Dust 514 info hub for PS@Home) is no longer with us. It's gone as well. My TK-70 Personal Drone is gone. The only thing left from it is the Creodron Methana that I have which was only obtainable from that hub in PS@Home and even that will now be deleted. Proof that nothing from PS@Home survives. Worse still when you look at The Matrix Online and how that ended. Meanwhile, the legacy of Dust will continue. That is all I ever asked for. Regardless of whether it went to PC-only, PS4-only, or both, it didn't matter. Just as long as its legacy doesn't die with the PS3. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.07 01:48:00 - [3] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I hope we dust vets can take part in the dust2.0 closed beta..I was part of dust's closed beta and I'd try out dust2.0..we've already got a few guys together =ƒì+ Same here. I got my gaming rig ready. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.08 04:28:00 - [4] - Quote MENASOR DECEPTICON 2 wrote: Why shut Dust514 down? If your making millions of dollars off it, keep the game going, just keep adding on to it. I'm pretty sure if it gets shut down, you might have a RIOT on your hands. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.12 01:21:00 - [5] - Quote Ambiuris Zinum wrote: ok CCP, when will we here about the new dust 514 or what every you want to call it ? there is no other game better than this and many of us are waiting for the continuation. AZTEC BLOOD RUNS THROUGH MY VAIN AND ITS HUNGRY FOR CONQUEST !! I hear that the Minmatar use a sharp sacrificial nova knife on a fresh Amarrian bound up on an alter at the apex of the tallest ziggurat to please the gods. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.13 16:16:00 - [6] - Quote knight of THE-OLD-CODE wrote: this is a betrayal of every dust soldier out there we put our ass on the every day and this is what we get I detect a hint of sarcasm there. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2016.03.17 03:47:00 - [7] - Quote Hector Carson wrote: what's the name of the project on PC? I can't seem to find it anywhere Nothing official yet. That will likely be mentioned this year at Fanfest. But the general forum consensus is "NotLegion" or "New Eden FPS for PC" or "Dust 2.0" or "Eve Phoenix" or "New Dust Phoenix 2.0". Take your pick. Eve Online Invite https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=ed64524f-15ca-4997-ab92-eaae0af74b7f&action=buddy