I see so many vids that clear show the player using keyboard and mouse. The jerky, instant turns that indicate a mouse controlled move are unmistakeable. I also have seen the effect of being targeted by someone using a mouse to do that targeting. It's almost instantaneous. I can see how it's possible for using a joystick on a DS3 controller to achieve the same degree of precision, but it's just NOT possible to do it so fast.

I have avoided KBM because I believe the DS3 controller is the most appropriate for use with the PS3, but what benefit is it to me if the KBM kiddies have the upper hand due to speed and precision? There is no doubt that the DS3 is appropriate for certain types of games - I play Ace Combat games which are totally acceptable on the DS3 - the style of the controller with its analogue sticks is completely correct for this type of game. But for something like Dust, I'm starting to think it should simply have been on the PC in the first place, KBM and all. Given it's on PS3, using a keyboard and mouse seems unfortunate to me, but reasonable.

Has anyone else any views on this? Is it simply a matter of using whatever is appropriate? I noted that there are some things that I couldn't figure out how to do with my little keypad keyboard, like Daily Missions - how are things like that achieved?

Using a mouse is superior when acquiring a target once you get used to it. A joystick has a "Dead space" when switching from left to right, you pass a neutral position, where as a mouse switches instantly from left to right.


It takes a lot of getting used to and you need a very good mouse and a pretty comfy keyboard. Personally I don't think you should be allowed to use them on a console game, but not enough people use it for it to be that big of a problem.

not enough people use it for it to be that big of a problem.

why is everyone here saying "appropriate"? wtf does that mean?

ok so in my experience all the best players ive spoken to use controllers, most probably due to kb/m being **** (unless the adapter thing maybe)
i highly doubt most people can tell the diff between ds3 and kbm when used against them.
most people just use it as an excuse as to why they suck. dont be one of those people.

next time you are curious just ask the person you are watching they will probably tell you what input type they use. then you wont have to guess and assume.

or just try them both and tell us what u think instead of posting "what i believe".
no offence OP but ppl act like its some almighty secret cheaty instant win.
sorry to burst your bubble but everyone is free to use it, there are no "kbm kiddies getting the edge on me" theres just ppl who are better or worse at killing you. no biggie.

the end. :)

Just as Useless as the PlayStation Move Controller.

You will be disappointed.

lol yer coz it sucks... and i dont buy that deadspace bs. nobody moves the stick slow enough fo that to happen

there's a reaction delay between shifting directions that no other game using controllers has at that level.

IMHO the DS3 controls were extremely poorly mapped as far back as beta.

Unfortunately the KB/M is absolutely terrible.

unless I'm just blind or I missed it in an update, there is no key-rebinding on kbm. I hated where they had things. I kept wanting to swap weapons (or something I don't remember) in the middle of heated close-range combat and would invariably die as my game paused to bring up the roster or map. I just went back to 'troller.

there's a reaction delay between shifting directions that no other game using controllers has at that level.

unless I'm just blind or I missed it in an update, there is no key-rebinding on kbm. I hated where they had things. I kept wanting to swap weapons (or something I don't remember) in the middle of heated close-range combat and would invariably die as my game paused to bring up the roster or map. I just went back to 'troller.