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BARAGAMOS
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Posted - 2016.01.20 22:46:00 -
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jNs Vit4l wrote:So you saying that Prima is not competitive anymore, I then suggest you get a team and go fight Prima as it is now, and then tell me how fast you were 5 capped.
Exactly.... Been around since the beginning and in all honesty the guys playing now are better than the sad dinosaurs that failed to adapt to the game. Completely different environment today. EVERYONE has proto/officer not just the guys that lament the good old days because they were 20 mill SP ahead of the average player.
That being said...Have to agree GD is probably not the right place for the topic. |
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Posted - 2016.01.20 23:11:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:jNs Vit4l wrote:So you saying that Prima is not competitive anymore, I then suggest you get a team and go fight Prima as it is now, and then tell me how fast you were 5 capped. Exactly.... Been around since the beginning and in all honesty the guys playing now are better than the sad dinosaurs that failed to adapt to the game. Completely different environment today. EVERYONE has proto/officer not just the guys that lament the good old days because they were 20 mill SP ahead of the average player. That being said...Have to agree GD is probably not the right place for the topic. last time I laughed so hard I was riding a dinosaur..more excuses to why you sucked
Are you illiterate? I don't see any excuses for anything, and considering last time I seen you in game I fed it to you until you left game I should be the one laughing. No go back into your hole. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 00:26:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:jNs Vit4l wrote:So you saying that Prima is not competitive anymore, I then suggest you get a team and go fight Prima as it is now, and then tell me how fast you were 5 capped. Exactly.... Been around since the beginning and in all honesty the guys playing now are better than the sad dinosaurs that failed to adapt to the game. Completely different environment today. EVERYONE has proto/officer not just the guys that lament the good old days because they were 20 mill SP ahead of the average player. That being said...Have to agree GD is probably not the right place for the topic. last time I laughed so hard I was riding a dinosaur..more excuses to why you sucked Are you illiterate? I don't see any excuses for anything, and considering last time I seen you in game I fed it to you until you left game I should be the one laughing. No go back into your hole. Lol who are you, scrub? I like how you say your stupid crap after half a team of vets came out of retirement, and ruled PC for a couple of months, then left after we got bored of you. You don't have enough skill to type, let alone act like you're good in Dust. Get lost.
Maybe a better question is who are you? Don't see your name above mine on those weeklies or monthlies. I have also not seen anyone coming back and ruling anything. All I see is Latinos scooping up the lag infested PC landscape. The reality is today is a totally different game environment from 3 years ago. There is a much smaller gap in SP and gear at the highest levels of play (PC) today than then. You also have a great deal more corps outside North America that are organized and effective. Sorry your toon is too young to actually know what the beginning was like, but truth is its a game that has and is changing. The level of players now is on par with any other point in the game. As a matter of fact what you have now is a more concentrated player base. Any Pub will show you that. You see the same players over and over, and guess what WE ALL HAVE MILLIONS OF SP. Not like when you played randoms every game 2 years ago and the average player was 10 mill SP or less into the game. So math may be hard for you as typing obviously is...but the average pub match these days is closer to a PC 3 years ago than the PCs of then are to PCs now. Sorry if you have a ego issue but that's a reality. Its also a game kid and believe it or not there is only some much differential built into it. So unless you have a gear/SP/squad advantage we are all on the same footing. The only edge outside of those factors is exploits/macros. So unless you have 6 fingers or a lag switch the reality is the best of today are as good as the best then if not better. In fact, many of the best from then are still playing today. Those that aren't chose to spend their time on something else, but if they stayed according you they would not be as good as if they quite and faded into nostalgia. Now lets see if your small brain or small ***** retorts. I'm betting the latter as you can't present an argument to back the former.
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Posted - 2016.01.21 01:00:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:*tl;dr: chest thumping from a pub star
Small child with anecdotal diatribe . Kid you were then and are now a nobody and no your MU and mine are the same as you obviously don't even understand how that works. I ringer in PCs every week kid so, maybe you want to get your **** straight or even better we can q sync anytime you like and ill hand your delusional ass to you.
You failed to add anything concrete to the argument because you can't back up any statement you make. Try reading the logic in the posts before your ego makes you post more QQ about how the game is less competitive. You might also want to have someone explain to you how MU works as you clearly don't understand it. So until you can offer something other than fantasy and nostalgia you should probably just stick with posting in player trading.
I'm pretty sure you can't read. As you just reiterated my argument. That and no one is complaining about the Latino corps. they simple are doing what they are doing. I mean for real kid READ A POST before you reply. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 01:11:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:*tl;dr: chest thumping from a pub star
Small child with anecdotal diatribe . Kid you were then and are now a nobody and no your MU and mine are the same as you obviously don't even understand how that works. I ringer in PCs every week kid so, maybe you want to get your **** straight or even better we can q sync anytime you like and ill hand your delusional ass to you. You failed to add anything concrete to the argument because you can't back up any statement you make. Try reading the logic in the posts before your ego makes you post more QQ about how the game is less competitive. You might also want to have someone explain to you how MU works as you clearly don't understand it. So until you can offer something other than fantasy and nostalgia you should probably just stick with posting in player trading. LOL Wow... kid, huh? I'm 31, and I don't have to play a video game daily to prove my net worth to someone. I would continue to make you rage, as this is hilarious, but I have a dinner to attend. Might snap a pic for ya so you can see what $$$ buys you. Ciao, puta.
The only rage is coming from the 31 year old man child that he is irrelevant in a video game and can't handle it. lol
Bring a factual argument to support your hyperbole "kid" or stop typing. I am sure those Latinos you "put in their place" would be glad to hand your ass to you as well if you want to come back and PC.
Love how your ego can't support itself with a real argument so you try personal attacks , but "kid" four things that I can verify for you are that I have more education, am wealthier, have a bigger ****, and both my girlfriends are better looking than anything you ever slept with. So keep spouting the rage or better yet just stop posting because right now if you go back and read your post you just look stupid. Hope to see you around...I love making wannabes rage quit. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 01:15:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:@baragmos...get bent I spent the last 17 months dealing with a TFCC tear of my right wrist had surgery a while back..lack of motion in your fingers can kill your gungame..Anyone relevant is aware of this fact Still better than you tho
Well that does suck.... As for the rest, well that's a matter of debate.
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Posted - 2016.01.21 03:08:00 -
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zor's KD wh0re wrote:Summa Militum wrote:CrazySmurf wrote:Its true, if the old original corps were around today, these corps holding districts would still be begging for some land You are pathetic. no, entirely true. As well as how most players now are pretty bad compared to the beta vets. I know for a fact that now if 0.H and AE returned they would be considered OP, but they used to get rekt by Team players, OG Nyain and Imperfects. not sure about PFB there.
FACTS require empirical evidence. Read some of the above posts for facts. Your post is opinion, and not very well supported. The game mechanics have not changed, but the meta has. The only advantages in this game are gear, SP, and sqauding. Now there is more gear on more players in each match and the SP gap in the high MU is not as large an issue (as there is not much difference between 80 mill plus players), so I am waiting to hear what magical advantage those of us who have been here since beta and quit have over the players that stayed or joined later. I can say that matches feel easier for me simply because I HAVE MOUNTAINS OF SP and if I want I can run proto/officer anytime. That does not make the people I play against worse than the people I played 3 years ago. It just means we hit the SP and gear plateau that makes the game feel easier. I work with new players all the time, and to be honest most of them have much better gun game than 95% of the current or past vet players. They come from REAL FPS games were there is no strafing, myos, and OHK explosions. This game requires a great deal of unlearning real FPS tactics to be "good" at it. Most new players don't stay because in truth the current condition of the game is really bad and like I said they want a FPS not a game where you die to explosives more often than a gun or a mk.0 can strafe on circles while he 1v1s a heavy. So they go back to a tier 1 shooter.
Like I said, I am still waiting for this empirical argument, but all I have seen so far is ***** waving and rhetoric. Don't get me wrong there have been some great players to come and go in our little microcosm, but in truth there is probably a much greater ratio now playing as the game continues to condense the player base down. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 03:52:00 -
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EmperoR AjnaS wrote:Quote:Maybe a better question is who are you? Don't see your name above mine on those weeklies or monthlies. I have also not seen anyone coming back and ruling anything. All I see is Latinos scooping up the lag infested PC landscape. The reality is today is a totally different game environment from 3 years ago. There is a much smaller gap in SP and gear at the highest levels of play (PC) today than then. You also have a great deal more corps outside North America that are organized and effective. Sorry your toon is too young to actually know what the beginning was like, but truth is its a game that has and is changing. The level of players now is on par with any other point in the game. As a matter of fact what you have now is a more concentrated player base. Any Pub will show you that. You see the same players over and over, and guess what WE ALL HAVE MILLIONS OF SP. Not like when you played randoms every game 2 years ago and the average player was 10 mill SP or less into the game. So math may be hard for you as typing obviously is...but the average pub match these days is closer to a PC 3 years ago than the PCs of then are to PCs now. Sorry if you have a ego issue but that's a reality. Its also a game kid and believe it or not there is only some much differential built into it. So unless you have a gear/SP/squad advantage we are all on the same footing. The only edge outside of those factors is exploits/macros. So unless you have 6 fingers or a lag switch the reality is the best of today are as good as the best then if not better. In fact, many of the best from then are still playing today. Those that aren't chose to spend their time on something else, but if they stayed according you they would not be as good as if they quite and faded into nostalgia. Now lets see if your small brain or small ***** retorts. I'm betting the latter as you can't present an argument to back the former.
Even after the sp gap you refered AE nd FA came back and kicked out the latin corps you are saying and ruled for a month.The latin corps got more land only bcoz AE ,FA nd other major pc corps left the game.
Did you read the post???? Reading comprehension among the children and neck beards is getting lower. You also realize that the Latino, European, or Russian corps never got ran out of anything, and least of all by a bunch of guys showing up and leaving in a month. There were some random returners fighting random corps, but never was there a "we returned" and conquered all of MH. You forget we all play this game or just make **** up and hope it comes true? I mean really Read the posts then make a thoughtful reply. With actual FACTS. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 04:11:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:I've been here since e3 and have 80m sp..ask other vets from back then and you'll soon realize none of them had a huge sp advantage like Kaizuka or Saxon have now 5-10m most maybe 20m for that neckbeard cubs
I had 8m sp when I was in TP...People seem to have this idea that all vets no lifed..granted some did
Umm..... They have less of an advantage now than then. The difference between 80 mill and 160 mill is not nearly as significant. You have finished protoing out any roles and cores. The difference between 10mill and 30mill is monumental. That is the difference 3 years ago. Many more of us have long past the SP plateau that just leads to redundant filling of roles with other racial equivalents.
Rest of this is not aimed at you Heim:
I'm not saying there were no good players three years ago, but it is phallic thought to even compare players that left with players that now play. From most of these guys reasoning you are automatically worse than other vets because you did not quit?? So according to them all you have to do is quit dust and troll the forums every few months by spamming how good things were and you'll be a legend.
From an empirical point of view this is the toughest environment DUST has ever had. SP, ISK, officer/proto, and squading are at the highest ratio they have been since the game started. As the game continues to lose player base this will continue to increase. These are called facts. So I am still waiting for this reasoning that leaving the game somehow makes better at the game to be explained in actual factual terms. lol
Man this OP should have been in the War room.... |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 04:18:00 -
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DEATH THE KlD wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:I've been here since e3 and have 80m sp..ask other vets from back then and you'll soon realize none of them had a huge sp advantage like Kaizuka or Saxon have now 5-10m most maybe 20m for that neckbeard cubs
I had 8m sp when I was in TP...People seem to have this idea that all vets no lifed..granted some did Umm..... They have less of an advantage now than then. The difference between 80 mill and 160 mill is not nearly as significant. You have finished protoing out any roles and cores. The difference between 10mill and 30mill is monumental. That is the difference 3 years ago. Many more of us have long past the SP plateau that just leads to redundant filling of roles with other racial equivalents. Rest of this is not aimed at you Heim: I'm not saying there were no good players three years ago, but it is phallic thought to even compare players that left with players that now play. From most of these guys reasoning you are automatically worse than other vets because you did not quit?? So according to them all you have to do is quit dust and troll the forums every few months by spamming how good things were and you'll be a legend. From an empirical point of view this is the toughest environment DUST has ever had. SP, ISK, officer/proto, and squading are at the highest ratio they have been since the game started. As the game continues to lose player base this will continue to increase. These are called facts. So I am still waiting for this reasoning that leaving the game somehow makes better at the game to be explained in actual factual terms. lol Man this OP should have been in the War room.... War room is dead anyways =ƒÿö even the forums are dying
agreed...sadly |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 05:35:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:zor's KD wh0re wrote:Summa Militum wrote:CrazySmurf wrote:Its true, if the old original corps were around today, these corps holding districts would still be begging for some land You are pathetic. no, entirely true. As well as how most players now are pretty bad compared to the beta vets. I know for a fact that now if 0.H and AE returned they would be considered OP, but they used to get rekt by Team players, OG Nyain and Imperfects. not sure about PFB there. Let's be honest for a second... Nyain could not even beat ANONYMOUS without AE help... TP had the benefit of probably the best FC in the game, next to AE's own DJINN Soul... everyone in TP will admit to you that they were a group of bad players with a great FC (albeit, they did pick up a lot of the good remnants from Imperfects). ANONYMOUS, my only home outside of AE besides wherever Heim is... soooo... yea... I like how this scrub pub star got so bent so quick. He was like melting plastic. Omg I forgot how epic dust forums were.
I see you could not come back with an intelligent argument. The only bent kid here was you, as is obvious by your posts. Now you are stuck in "I'm trying to not sound bent by pointing" mode. Read the post>>>mine thought out and informed>>>>>yours anecdotal rants devolving into personal attacks. A hint here "kid" pick fights where you can win them.
Another thing: Nyain pretty much did what they when they wanted. They had the players, the lag, and the timers in their favor. When most of their players moved on to other games the other corps got a chance. It was months after they died before the first corp got up the courage to poke the corpse. I'm not a Nyain fan, but that's the sad facts. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:31:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:I see you could not come back with an intelligent argument. The only bent kid here was you, as is obvious by your posts. Now you are stuck in "I'm trying to not sound bent by pointing" mode. Read the post>>>mine thought out and informed>>>>>yours anecdotal rants devolving into personal attacks. A hint here "kid" pick fights where you can win them.
Another thing: Nyain pretty much did what they wanted when they wanted. They had the players, the lag, and the timers in their favor. When most of their players moved on to other games the other corps got a chance. It was months after they died before the first corp got up the courage to poke the corpse. I'm not a Nyain fan, but that's the sad facts. Omg son, you're still raging? Did someone touch you in your no no area? Did you have to cry yourself to sleep. Oh man, I am starting to feel bad for you son. You should seek help, but Roner quit the game, so.... no one good is left.
Still waiting for you to say something relevant or factual.... So why don't you keep your childish personal attacking neck beard 31 year old has been quips to yourself. CHILDISH. No wonder you failed at life. You ego is bigger than your ***** and that is never a good thing. The adults are having a real discussion and you are just distracting us with your diarrhea of the mouth. Seriously read your post and ask yourself if you sound like a sensible adult or an idiotic child....I can tell you what the rest of us think. So when you have something factual or relevant feel free to type, but please resist the urge to post more stupidity that is off topic "kid". there is a reason no one knows who you are, and with that attitude issue I'm pretty sure no one wants to. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:48:00 -
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wrote:Who is this baragamos kid? Never even heard of this guy and he is talking all kinds of **** to some of the best vets to ever play this game. Wow, you're on the leaderboards = no life pubstar.
I have heard these kids say time and time again that the old wars we had weren't ****. Yet these kids have never even seen a competitive environment in dust.
I have also seen even a handful of the old vets come back and dominate these kids time and time again. They dont want to see a full squad, let alone a full team of the players we played against.
First off KID, who are you? Another nobody not on the leaderboards ruminating? The reality is I have been here since the beginning, your toon was not even in closed or open beta, and if you read the post you would see no one is saying anything bad about older players. Obviously your reading skills are as bad as your gun game. The issue is the guys who drift away and stop by to say the exact opposite. Bottom line is there are players today that will smash anyone you bring up. There are reasons they quit. They moved on to other things...its a game. New players or other vets stayed. They filled in the gaps. The game mechanics are the same, so unless you are magical or use exploits there are no real secrets to this game.
If you can't understand the math of the situation try to read some of the previous post slowly. 3 years ago smashing people 20 million skill points less than you was easy and the opportunities to do so was abundant. I know, I was there. Now at the top levels 20 million skill points are not a noticeable difference. If you can't understand the distillation of the player base then I can't help you. If you can't read I can only recommend after school help. The bottom line is comparing old quitters to current players is flawed idea to start with. Gear, SP, and sqauding are the three biggest factors in this game to be successful. EVERYONE now has the best gear, millions of SP and mics up at the highest levels of competition. This was not true at all even 2 years ago. So offer some facts to refute not nostalgia. No doubt there were some great guys and great players in the past, but the truth is there are a higher number of those type guys today still playing. Its just hard to see the forest for the trees. When everyone is on the same plateau its not like you have try hard no lifer stand outs that have their cores maxed and proto suits fighting guys with 10 mill or less SP in PC anymore. Its a different New Eden. You cant simply be good because you had a head start or spent more on boosters. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO EARN IT THE HARD WAY. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:49:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Yes! Keep up the salty tears! Oh they're tearing at my shins! delicious!
I just love hearing that 'beta vets this' and 'beta vets that' argument.
The funny thing about the "beta vet" arguement, is we were here, then and now, they weren't, so they are clueless, yet keep talking **** as if they were. You are included in the "they" there catz..
YOU ARE NOT A BETA VET CHARACTER THERE KID, SO YOU WEREN'T THERE TO MAKE A JUDGEMENT.
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:56:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:Still waiting for you to say something relevant or factual.... So why don't you keep your childish personal attacking neck beard 31 year old has been quips to yourself. CHILDISH. No wonder you failed at life. You ego is bigger than your ***** and that is never a good thing. The adults are having a real discussion and you are just distracting us with your diarrhea of the mouth. Seriously read your post and ask yourself if you sound like a sensible adult or an idiotic child....I can tell you what the rest of us think. So when you have something factual or relevant feel free to type, but please resist the urge to post more stupidity that is off topic "kid". there is a reason no one knows who you are, and with that attitude issue I'm pretty sure no one wants to. Lol I just choked on my drink I was laughing so hard. You're rage is palpable and is like a fine french cheese. Man oh man... you're better than Ares Himself... well, almost... Ares was maybe younger then you. Maybe. You're cute little one, please don't stop. We have a good thing going here, keep it up.
Still nothing to say? Waiting for this empirical proof or at least an actual argument on the topic. I'm not raging at all, but I can feel your neck beard ego over flowing from here. That's why you keep post personal attacks instead of facts. One your small brain can handle and your ego needs. The other is beyond your maturity level. I'm laughing at you trying to save face after you fell on it. Nothing like a kid with personal attacks when their argument falls apart. Go upstairs and tell your mom I said hi. She probably misses me.
Do try to keep the rage post down, they were funny to us all at first now they are just sad and embarrassing to read. Especially after you claimed to be 31.....but act 13.
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:59:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:How am I not a beta vet? I started playing this game in closed beta, this toon is from open beta. My first corp battle was against southern legion, one of the oldest corps in the game. My first PC, against the IMPs.
Back then, the top toons had 12m SP, now they are over 120m SP, yet the gap is smaller? You have no clue what you are even talking about. Don't you have some pubs to scrub?
Your born on date was in march after beta kid. Sorry to out you. Lying less makes your arguments better. Again kid can you read and understand the difference between 12 million and 6 million versus 80 million and 160 million. Read the post slowly and it becomes easier. A player at with all cores and proto vs a player without these is a slaughter. A player with 6 roles proto VS a player with 9 is not even a noticeable difference. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 21:27:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:P14GU3 wrote:How am I not a beta vet? I started playing this game in closed beta, this toon is from open beta. My first corp battle was against southern legion, one of the oldest corps in the game. My first PC, against the IMPs.
Back then, the top toons had 12m SP, now they are over 120m SP, yet the gap is smaller? You have no clue what you are even talking about. Don't you have some pubs to scrub? Your born on date was in march after beta kid. Sorry to out you. Lying less makes your arguments better. Again kid can you read and understand the difference between 12 million and 6 million versus 80 million and 160 million. Read the post slowly and it becomes easier. A player at with all cores and proto vs a player without these is a slaughter. A player with 6 roles proto VS a player with 9 is not even a noticeable difference. Lol do you even know when the game came out of beta? 5-14. I believe may is after march... Also 160-80=80 12-6=6 Which is the bigger gap again? It takes 20m, give or take, to max out 1 suit, so even at 12m yes some had proto, but not maxed core skills. Once again, do you even know wtf your talking about? Talking about my credibility.. lol
The gap is irrelevant at the 80 mill level. It is glaring at the 8 million split you speak of. If you don't think so start an alt and see what it feels like. Anyway that's neither here nor there. It takes a little over 25 mill to max out cores and proto one suit and gun or 30 to logi or add a side arm proto. After that you are adding options and counter fits. At 12 million you don't even have one option let alone any counter play in your suit choses. So back when we had 20 million skill point advantages 3 years ago its not like now when everyone at the highest levels has multiple roles finished and most of the vehicle tree.
The topic though is trying to get to an irrefutable argument on if the players that left somehow are better than the players now. The issue with that is we just keep getting nostalgia and ***** waving. All of the numbers would say no, but I and others are still waiting for a reason why some may think that other than "it felt" that way. I have to say the game felt better then too, but that does not mean that playing then and leaving made you de facto better than the players now. The game moved on. Its a much harder environment to stand out in now at the top and even harder to start in. Even in pubs there are 400 million SP 4 man squads. PCs three years ago didn't have 400 million between both teams of 32 players. The games are mostly let downs not because many of the players lack skills. They just lack a backbone. One proto death or the sight of a similar squad and they leave a match. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 21:48:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:DEATH THE KlD wrote:AE had few Imps..they were Hellstorm..the Imps that remained in dust split between Teamplayers and AE...I doubt there was ever more than 4 active Imps in any Corp after Imps left dust True, but the few Imp vets were still the best in the game - I know because I hated them with every Dust breath I took. The Imps were great, definately some of the best, both as a team and as individual players. PFBHz, AE, O.H. and some others also had great individuals though, and teamplayers is argueably the best team to ever grace this game. Thats kind of my point though. You cant say anything like that about a single corp today. Why? Because no one knows. There is no real competition in this game anymore. No way to break down who really is the best. Some team 5 caps another, puts the video in GD, and claims to be the best lol. We used to have weeks, sometimes months long wars. Hell, there was even a website that showed with wheel charts and **** who was doing what for christ's sake. When a team or two consistently stayed on top, war after war, there was no more debating. Yet here we are.
The fact that no team can stay on top is a better litmus test. When you truly have competition things change at the top. Lag, exploits and farming mentality are the only real issues keeping PC down right now. In truth at this point most PC players have corp hopped so much its hard to even associate them with any specific team. |
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:06:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:BARAGAMOS wrote:The fact that no team can stay on top is a better litmus test. When you truly have competition things change at the top. Lag, exploits and farming mentality are the only real issues keeping PC down right now. In truth at this point most PC players have corp hopped so much its hard to even associate them with any specific team. You are right to a certain extent. And things have changed at the top over the years. A-teams have fallen, either to someone else or themselves (usually themselves though.) But there have been a few teams who's dominance has shined. You can't disregard them now because they aren't around, or have been split into new teams, or whatever. No one has fun beating down the same people over and over again. You want to know why most of the greats have quit, and no new ones have emerged? Dust is a dying game. The competition is mostly gone. Im not even a great, and I can see how little this game offers from a competitive standpoint.
What newer games and consoles have not stolen away CCP has ran off unfortunately. This game could have had the longevity of EVE, but instead we are left with a shadow of what could have been one of the best MMO/lobby shooters ever. I feel like there is still competition, but sadly its not found in PCs like it once was. The players and skill level are here but the battles aren't in PC anymore. Farming is far more profitable than war, and officer stomping new guys is more gratifying in pubs apparently than actually having closely contested games. Hell, even FW has gone to trash. |
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