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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:38:00 -
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I'm betting it's because Dust will be staying on consoles.
Remember when they announced a transfer to PC? A lot of Dust players left,but at that time EVE players celebrated.
This was,of course,before Dust became "profitable". (Short sighted members of CCP expected an immediate successful return.)
Taking into account that new profitability CCP had to rethink it's decision.
Imagine, that if today they came out and said "Dust will be staying on consoles". I'm sure they would lose at least some EVE players. So,they're currently bracing for that.
I'd say that's the real reason. And that may be the real controversy rattati was talking about.
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John Demonsbane
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:50:00 -
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I'm betting it's because Dust is dead. But I'm all pessimistic like that.
If not, I'll see you chumps on PS4.
(The godfather of tactical logisticsGäó)
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:50:00 -
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Flawed logic is flawed, OP.
CCP could just as easily choose to stay the course to PC. If they reaffirmed the decision to port to PC then all the hardcore console players would quit faster, taking their AUR purchases with them. CCP isn't telling us "Oh yeah... we have no plans to port to PS4..." because they know it would effect their bottom line in the short term.
And Rattati said it would **** people off. The decision to stay on consoles would not **** people off.
Become the phoenix, rise again
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:52:00 -
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The silence most likely stems from the devs going into crunch mode, trying to complete something (Most likely 1.3).
I noticed yesterday that Rattati suddenly had a revival on twitter, going through old posts and favoriting them, most likely pointing to his absence due to heavy workload, and that he is now done with whatever he was working on, allowing him to catch up on the things he missed on social media.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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trooper7041
MostlyHarmless.
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Flawed logic is flawed, OP.
CCP could just as easily choose to stay the course to PC. If they reaffirmed the decision to port to PC then all the hardcore console players would quit faster, taking their AUR purchases with them. CCP isn't telling us "Oh yeah... we have no plans to port to PS4..." because they know it would effect their bottom line in the short term.
And Rattati said it would **** people off. The decision to stay on consoles would not **** people off.
This.
With regards to the player base shifting from EvE to Dust, there is no correlation. It's not like when they announced Legion that the huge exodus of players went to EvE nor did we gain a bunch of players. |
Joseph Ridgeson
warravens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:59:00 -
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"The Silence" can be because of other reasons.
1. They have nothing to say. 2. They are trying to do something but the last time they made a big sweeping announcement without having everything cleared up, people were understandably upset. Better to say nothing until it is a done deal. (IE, they are working with Sony to have Legion on both PS4 and PC on the same servers and don't want to say "we want to do this" in case it never happens)
In regards to Rouge Wedding, the upset is much more how unbelievably botched the announcement was rather than anything else. If the "DUST 514" keynote was 30 minutes longer, included a "what this means is you will keep all Aurum, SP, corporations, and character names" as well as some "what will be happening in the mean time?", most of the outrage would have never happened. Rouge thought the round table was going to be put on Twitch so all the "answers to your questions" never got to most of the people. Of course, the fact that the DUST 514 keynote was about an entire separate product and the fact that it was announced at FanFest were also massive blunders; CCP really shat the bed there.
I disagree with the idea that saying "we are never going to PC" would cause them to lose EVE players. That would be like Blizzard losing World of Warcraft subscribers because they didn't port Hearthstone to iOS; they are separate products and people would not be playing EVE if they were solely interested in Legion one day.
As for being pessimistic, I could completely see them being completely quiet in regards to "DUST will not be moving to a different system" or "DUST support is ending" in order to continue to sell Aurum. People will not be willing to spend anything if the game is just going to be dead. Hell, I still say that them stating "everything will transfer" and then not changing their tune for 18 months amounts to false advertising if they do suddenly say "nothing is happening" as people have bought Aurum based on that previous 'promise.'
Where did Rattati say "controversy"? I keep seeing that referenced and yet have not actually seen it. Could someone kindly link me the source?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:01:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Where did Rattati say "controversy"? I keep seeing that referenced and yet have not actually seen it. Could someone kindly link me the source? He said it at the tail-end of a Biomassed interview. I'll try to find the episode.
Found it: https://s3.amazonaws.com/biomassed/BiomassedEp75.mp3
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:04:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Where did Rattati say "controversy"? I keep seeing that referenced and yet have not actually seen it. Could someone kindly link me the source? He said it at the tail-end of a Biomassed interview. I'll try to find the episode. I can confirm he said that. He said that in reference to 1.3 I believe.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:06:00 -
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Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:28:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever?
Wow, surprising.
10 Year Plan
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.01.20 15:58:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever? Wow, surprising. We're actually better from my experience.
Going to the Battlefield forums was.... an experience.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever? Wow, surprising. We're actually better from my experience. Going to the Battlefield forums was.... an experience. It's called a Rite of Passage.
10 Year Plan
Laser Focused
WoD 514
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever? Wow, surprising. We're actually better from my experience. Going to the Battlefield forums was.... an experience.
Last time I had an experience,I woke up in a crop feild with some very badly mauled cows
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:10:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cat Merc wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever? Wow, surprising. We're actually better from my experience. Going to the Battlefield forums was.... an experience. It's called a Rite of Passage. Oh no, I haven't dared to actually post.
I just observed. It was interesting, to say the least.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:15:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Oh no, I haven't dared to actually post.
I just observed. It was interesting, to say the least.
YOU HAVE FAILED!!!!
GO BACK TO THE WILD WHERE YOU BELONG CAT, YOU ARE NO LONGER A MAN!!!
10 Year Plan
Laser Focused
WoD 514
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: YOU ARE NO LONGER A MAN!!!
What part of cat do you not understand?
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:28:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: YOU ARE NO LONGER A MAN!!! What part of cat do you not understand? The C.
It really throws me off :/
10 Year Plan
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WoD 514
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Llamastar
Kylo's Fist
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:29:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever? Wow, surprising.
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/shocked_joey_friends.gif
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:30:00 -
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Llamastar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Devs won't say crap because the community is so toxic and assmunchy about any changes to say their favorite op gun/suit that the backlash from saying anything is not even worth it.
That and the fact that CCP has issues with telling us about anything. You know,because we lash out,qqing about something. So you mean our community is identicle to every gaming community in the history of ever? Wow, surprising. http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/shocked_joey_friends.gif This post makes me really upset that I can no longer like posts lol
10 Year Plan
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WoD 514
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2016.01.20 16:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: YOU ARE NO LONGER A MAN!!! What part of cat do you not understand?
Non of it. Meow?
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Flix Keptick
R-A-P-T-U-R-E
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Posted - 2016.01.20 17:44:00 -
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I'm starting to wish that the game hadn't become profitable, since it would have probably meant continued development on Legion. I'm not an EvE player, or a "PC master race" type of guy (I play both on consoles and PC), but even I can tell that the game would benefit MASSIVELY from a port to a platform that isn't extremely limiting in processing resources. It would allow the devs to do all that stuff they couldn't do on the Ps3 because of hardware limitations.
Honestly, it's a damn shame. I want to like this game again, I really do. The buggy/jerky controls and lackluster graphics (combined with the lag and bugs) just prevent me from doing so.
scout//assault//heavy
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Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2016.01.20 17:49:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Flawed logic is flawed, OP.
CCP could just as easily choose to stay the course to PC. If they reaffirmed the decision to port to PC then all the hardcore console players would quit faster, taking their AUR purchases with them. CCP isn't telling us "Oh yeah... we have no plans to port to PS4..." because they know it would effect their bottom line in the short term.
And Rattati said it would **** people off. The decision to stay on consoles would not **** people off. Actually i think it would enrage some.
To be told "hey,we have a plan and here it is." "We're lazor focused on it for realz this time we swarez."
It actually mimics what they said about Dust on consoles.
So,having to renig two times would be downright shameful.
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General Vahzz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.20 18:00:00 -
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THE REAL REASON FOR THE SILENCE.
I am putting all of you, my alts, into a state of realization. Let me tell you something you already know, the world ain't all sunshine and rainbows; it's a very mean, and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.
I am teaching you all how to win, and as I speak to you, all I am doing, is telling myself this over and over. Because you, all of you, are just me. None of you are real. All of us, we are all, just me, sitting in a dark room, talking to ourself while we slowly go insane. We put ourselves through this, because it is necessary. It is necessary so that we can survive. It is the only way we know how.
So we will keep moving forward, we will keep taking this beating like the masochists we are, we will keep complaining yet we will keep enduring. My alts, all of you, don't stop believing in your individuality; we will endure the trial beset upon us. Even we are scorched off the face of the stars in a blaze of undying glory, we will strive because our immense willpower refuses to give up. Why else, are we still, here?
I am the real deal, and I am indestructible.
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Yeeeuuuupppp
RUST415
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Posted - 2016.01.20 18:18:00 -
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mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
I'll boop you with a plasma Cannon
PSN: GMANCASH
"I played Dust so long i grew a f--king afro"
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SILENTSAM 69
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.20 19:05:00 -
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I think the main reason for silence right now, despite everything being about Valkyrie, and not wanting a possible bad reaction over DUST at the same time, is that we are also at the winter break when many at CCP have gone home.
Let them have their winter break and then they will get back to us. |
MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2016.01.20 23:20:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote: And Rattati said it would **** people off. The decision to stay on consoles would not **** people off.
oh come on
you know very well that anything at all they announce will **** people off
"We're moving to PC" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're moving to PS4" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're making it 3 way cross platform PC, Xbone, and PS4" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're staying on PS3, and replacing all models and textures with flat colored boxes as a RAM workaround" Oh that would actually be pretty okay |
Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2016.01.21 18:51:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote: And Rattati said it would **** people off. The decision to stay on consoles would not **** people off.
oh come on you know very well that anything at all they announce will **** people off "We're moving to PC" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're moving to PS4" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're making it 3 way cross platform PC, Xbone, and PS4" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're staying on PS3, and replacing all models and textures with flat colored boxes as a RAM workaround" Oh that would actually be pretty okay The only legit complaints should be accepted from console users.
They promised a "10 year plan",not to PC players but to console players.
And it hasn't been 10 years yet.
PC players are just trying to get sympathy for their cause. (of which i have none)
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.21 18:52:00 -
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Meee One wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:Ripley Riley wrote: And Rattati said it would **** people off. The decision to stay on consoles would not **** people off.
oh come on you know very well that anything at all they announce will **** people off "We're moving to PC" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're moving to PS4" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're making it 3 way cross platform PC, Xbone, and PS4" RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE "We're staying on PS3, and replacing all models and textures with flat colored boxes as a RAM workaround" Oh that would actually be pretty okay The only legit complaints should be accepted from console users. They promised a "10 year plan",not to PC players but to console players. And it hasn't been 10 years yet. PC players are just trying to get sympathy for their cause. (of which i have none) Honestly as a PC player I'd rather DUST stay on console. Too many high quality games out and coming out for PC, my poor SSDs :(
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