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Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.16 19:47:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I think 1.3 will drop after the server upgrade is complete (they're supposed to have it set up and ready to go by the end of this month.) I'm a pretty bitter vet but I'm actually hopeful about 1.3 simply because Rattati said a lot of players might not like it. #1.3TheRebirthOfDust ....... hopefully.
OK, then let's see if we get:
1. The server upgrade
2. 1.3 after the end of this month.
Taking bets? |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.16 19:58:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:The fact that i've grinded this long through all the BS has kept me on dust. Looking at Eve now as I do now play that game as well, and seeing how far that game has gotten keeps me on dust. I figure, if Eve can be that good maybe dust can one day.
There's a big difference between EvE and Dust. When EvE started it was one of its kind. The player base grew to be huge, and became a real force to be reckoned with. Dust was an offshoot, on a different platform, to explore a different player base and microtransactions. It didn't have the player base of EvE, most of whom never migrated across because they hated the concept. I was there, talking with them. Walking In Stations was going to be the first move towards the EvE/Dust interface, and they loathed it, because at that stage in the process it did nothing. It still does nothing. Neither does the War Barge Quarters, for that matter.
So the disconnect between EvE and Dust was never and will never be fixed. The EvE player base will never migrate across and the Dust player base is laughably small. Looking to EvE as a model for how far Dust can come is entertaining and inspiring but ultimately foolish. Without the EvE player base, Dust will never achieve what EvE has. It was a significant miscalculation to put Dust on PS3. As far as I can tell, most people use kbm anyway, so PC would have been the logical platform, side-by-side with EvE. Then there would not have been anything like the problems with "porting" and "interfacing". Or the idiotic PSN, with its ridiculous random sign-outs one of which I had to endure just before, which is why I'm here now.
No. EvE got as far as it has because of its huge player base. Dust won't because CCP didn't ensure that the EvE player base WAS the Dust player base. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.17 21:07:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I agree, but dust still has the potential to attract an entirely new playerbase! I had never heard of Eve until I played dust. I was on the range one day training with a shooting buddy of mine who is in my unit, and he told me about dust and all it's concepts, customization, and promise for better FPS days. In was a battlefield 3 player who hated COD for all it's rambo unrealistic gameplay, and wanted a better challenge with tactics and teamwork involved.
I logged onto dust, and haven't been able to put it down since!
I think the same goes for alot of the small dust community. That's why there's #PortDust514! They know the potential for advancement as players, but getting CCP to see it is the issue. The players know there is no better concept out there with such a rich history and lore as Dust/Eve.
If dust actually worked without all the glitches and framerate issues players would flock to it from all over! Most older FPS players love a challenge! That's why we're here now! Move it to PC or PS4, Eradicate the glitcher/modder crowd by making the perfected version pay-to-play like Eve, and watch as the playerbase of the FPS crowd flocks to it like moth's to a flame!
Keep it on PS3 and watch it die slowly...
You would then lose people who can't afford the fee... Economy sucks nowadays... People can barely afford a PS4... Some only play because it's F2P and is somewhat decent... You would only hurt the playerbase just as much as helping it.
But you would GAIN an entirely different and more committed player base, more like that of EvE, and I think that would definitely be a good move. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2016.01.17 21:16:00 -
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Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Radiant Pancake3 wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I agree, but dust still has the potential to attract an entirely new playerbase! I had never heard of Eve until I played dust. I was on the range one day training with a shooting buddy of mine who is in my unit, and he told me about dust and all it's concepts, customization, and promise for better FPS days. In was a battlefield 3 player who hated COD for all it's rambo unrealistic gameplay, and wanted a better challenge with tactics and teamwork involved.
I logged onto dust, and haven't been able to put it down since!
I think the same goes for alot of the small dust community. That's why there's #PortDust514! They know the potential for advancement as players, but getting CCP to see it is the issue. The players know there is no better concept out there with such a rich history and lore as Dust/Eve.
If dust actually worked without all the glitches and framerate issues players would flock to it from all over! Most older FPS players love a challenge! That's why we're here now! Move it to PC or PS4, Eradicate the glitcher/modder crowd by making the perfected version pay-to-play like Eve, and watch as the playerbase of the FPS crowd flocks to it like moth's to a flame!
Keep it on PS3 and watch it die slowly...
You would then lose people who can't afford the fee... Economy sucks nowadays... People can barely afford a PS4... Some only play because it's F2P and is somewhat decent... You would only hurt the playerbase just as much as helping it. But you would GAIN an entirely different and more committed player base, more like that of EvE, and I think that would definitely be a good move. Yeah, it would be nice... but then I would be forced to leave dust.
That would definitely be a shame! But the player base of EvE manages with their (small) subscription and the cost of a second hand PS4 will probably not be too prohibitive. If, and I say IF Dust ported to PS4 or PC, and it was a significantly better product than it is right now on PS3, people will find the means to go there. The PS4 or PC, either new or used, is a one-off cost. The ongoing subscription (currently $15/month for EvE) isn't all that prohibitive. |
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