DUST Search - The arguement defending CCP's silence

Baal Omniscient wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

You are both completely sidestepped the OP's point and arguing another. He's not saying 'quit your bitching because I am tired of reading it', he's saying 'Quit your bitching because that's what started the issue you're bitching about now and certainly won't fix it'

Fairly certain CCPs drunk driving drove us into this tree, our bitching didn't change that one way or the other.

Aside from the fact the OP claims to be trolling us, this is total horse **** cuz back in the day for every one thread that complained there were two lavishing CCP with unwarranted praise. The **** goes both ways.

If I implied that CCP's game design issues are due to people bitching, that was not my intention. Basically I was saying that you people are bitching because of CCP's silence, which was brought on BY your bitching and more bitching isn't going to make them suddenly start opening up. If anything it's showing them they are right to keep their mouths shut until they have something to show us. You (perhaps not you specifically) toxic ******* brought this silence on yourselves and now you're complaining about the concequences of your actions. Congrats.


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deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.09 04:26:00 - [1] - Quote The silence is just another chapter in the horror story that is the treatment of Dust as a whole. In years now not a single bit of real progress has been made while "balancing" has been used as an excuse to say they are working on the game. Less vehicles than before. Less maps than before. NPE is absolute trash. PC is just as useless as it was before and now you even get to wonder if the match will get randomly cancelled. Lag has gone from being primarily a PC issue to also being a problem in every other game mode. Cash grabbing proficiency 10 was achieved in the form of a half finished 2d model. I have never in my life seen a company that drastically reduced quality all while asking for more money and then people have the nerve to act like they are the victim when paying customers complain and ask the company to at least show some real effort on meeting their promises as oppose to just dumping them like trash and running of to work on some crappy VR projects. If you don't like people rightfully complaining then don't read it. o7 All #514InTheWind
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.09 08:59:00 - [2] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Its honestly the naivety and white knighting that is killer. Lets forgo CCP's utter incompetence , their false promises, and their complete neglect for this IP. The costumer (being us) still has every right to complain, praise, or make suggestions. I will not "lay off" because from my standpoint, this game is a mess and I am going to treat it like one. This not how a business should run period. Especially one located in the entertainment industry. Yep yep CCP's management record is just plain awful. WoD and Dust could be counted among 2 of the greatest flops ever. The management of the Legion announcement was WOAH bad. I'm not sure how they managed to wrangle 30 million dollars but I would not invest $30 in CCP at this point. o7 All #514InTheWind
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.09 19:17:00 - [3] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: There is one word that, to me, means silence is golden. Now I believe this word is Icelandic, but I could be wrong. Anyway, here it is: INCARNA I am guessing you are referring to the fact that CCP flapped their gums and not only failed to deliver but also managed to do only things that players hated. I would agree with you if it was not for that amazing little thing called a middle ground. You can talk to players and announce what you are working on if you are actual able to deliver. Speaking to people does not mean you have to just shout out every idea you have even when you have a serious record of not being able to complete things in a timely or efficient manner. o7 All #514InTheWind
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.10 19:58:00 - [4] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: You are both completely sidestepped the OP's point and arguing another. He's not saying 'quit your bitching because I am tired of reading it', he's saying 'Quit your bitching because that's what started the issue you're bitching about now and certainly won't fix it' Fairly certain CCPs drunk driving drove us into this tree, our bitching didn't change that one way or the other. Aside from the fact the OP claims to be trolling us, this is total horse ** cuz back in the day for every one thread that complained there were two lavishing CCP with unwarranted praise. The goes both ways. If I implied that CCP's game design issues are due to people bitching, that was not my intention. Basically I was saying that you people are bitching because of CCP's silence, which was brought on BY your bitching and more bitching isn't going to make them suddenly start opening up. If anything it's showing them they are right to keep their mouths shut until they have something to show us. You (perhaps not you specifically) toxic *** brought this silence on yourselves and now you're complaining about the concequences of your actions. Congrats. At the end of the day CCP is at fault and needs to answer for their actions. Terrible management has wilted the community down to nothing but toxic players and real fans. Unfortunately the toxicity far out numbers those who give a crap about this game going anywhere. If CCP did not give legitimate reasons to *** then the said bitching would hold zero weight and have no bearing on the outcome because it would be recognized as pessimist grumblings. Stop playing white knight for CCP attempting to play the role of their PR department and shift blame around. If the government were to take the colossal mess that it is and say oh we are not going to talk to anyone until we get a solution don't you think there would be rioting in the streets after the first few weeks? We are sitting at months from CCP and you continue to defend them and blame others. LOL does not even begin to cover it. o7 All #514InTheWind !@#$!#@!$$@@#$@$!$ Snap out of the Stockholm Syndrome guys.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.10 20:41:00 - [5] - Quote byte modal wrote: Comparing a video game to government shutdown? I imagine it's less white-knighting CCP and more calling players out for BS hyperbole. Seriously people, this is beyond silly. Make an argument and use valid points. Even if others disagree, it's still respectable the intent and is a genuine effort. Otherwise it's kindergarten politics. Just a suggestion. Wtf is with forums and blowing **** so far out of proportion to try to validate an argument? It's unnecessary and seems counter productive. Honest question. CCP is the ruling power over the game even more so than any government of a country. We attempt to be participants in said game and even contribute time and money to its existence. Just because you would rather look at the scope of the two things being compared instead of the comparison itself does not make the argument any less valid. It is absolutely white knighting for CCP. If having a company that has seriously broken its promises in the past say hey we got something great just spend money and then go full on iron curtain is not a reason to complain then I legitimately do not know what is. As for complaining before the silence I stand by my original statement. Any complaining was first validated by CCP's actions otherwise it would have been shrugged off as nonsense instead of growing and festering. o7 All #514InTheWind !@#$!#@!$$@@#$@$!$ Snap out of the Stockholm Syndrome guys.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 4	Posted - 2016.01.10 20:52:00 - [6] - Quote Soto Gallente wrote: CCP does not have complete control over the game. We don't even know who to blame for not having a port. What is Sony is responsible for not letting us have a port? What if it is CCP? The world is filled with what if statements, without solid facts and evidence none of them can be answered to its fullest extent. CCP has shown that they are more than willing and able to jump to PC. Sony will publish any game that pays the dues and passes the QA checks. We saw that with the fact that they published Dust in the first place. Your point is taken tho. Ifs are nothing more than ifs. Specifically when you have a company absolutely stone walling everyone. o7 All #514InTheWind !@#$!#@!$$@@#$@$!$ Snap out of the Stockholm Syndrome guys.