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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:20:00 -
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I don't think anyone expected it to be over $399.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:22:00 -
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And it's 700Gé¼ in Europe + 43Gé¼ for the delivery..
743Gé¼ ~= 950$
Wtf ?
Port it now !
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Soto Gallente
BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM
RUST415
169
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:24:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:And it's 700Gé¼ in Europe + 43Gé¼ for the delivery..
743Gé¼ ~= 950$
Wtf ?
'murica!
Ex-news reporter for The Scope
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Natalia's P3nis
Fake Ancient Exiles. 2.0
285
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:27:00 -
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I Thought from reading that the price was going to be cheaper to reach a bigger consumer base. I thought that was the purpose behind Facebook buying it for 2 billion dollars |
maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
2
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:27:00 -
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Only 599? Wow it must be helluva more expensive in other countries.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:36:00 -
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LOLWUT
That is an INSANE price! And you don't even get Valkyrie with it unless you Pre-Order?
I'm not sure what they're thinking. This also makes me scared of how pricy SteamVR is going to be considering they warned it would be more expensive than the Rift.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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jett it
S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D
General Tso's Alliance
600
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:37:00 -
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I want my money back and i have not even bought it yet....
http://www.youtube.com/c/jettGaming
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:42:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:LOLWUT
That is an INSANE price! And you don't even get Valkyrie with it unless you Pre-Order?
I'm not sure what they're thinking. This also makes me scared of how pricy SteamVR is going to be considering they warned it would be more expensive than the Rift.
As some other people have been saying, in their defense, HTC was talking about it being more expensive than the Rift back when the great betrayer suggested that the price would be "in the ballpark of $350"
For all we know Vive could be like "lol thanks for handing us the entire market" and sell at $500
Then again, that wouldn't crush my spirits as bad so who am I kidding it'll probably be over 1000 |
John Psi
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:53:00 -
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Please support fair play!
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DJINN Heartreaper
Negative-Feedback.
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Posted - 2016.01.06 17:58:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:I don't think anyone expected it to be over $399.
I did, I told everyone I wouldn't buy one cuz it would cost more than 2 systems..with all the bugs and issues it's bound to have I feel bad for anyone dumb enough to buy one within the first year |
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Stefan Stahl
Seituoda Taskforce Command
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Posted - 2016.01.06 18:20:00 -
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Do you get a free T-shirt that says "I payed 600 $ (+tax) for a headset and all I got was Eve Valkyrie"? |
I Blame Society
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.06 18:53:00 -
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I'd rather lick the shitskid from the inside of a toilet bowl than buy it for 600$.
You shall not defeat me in combat, for I am the one who does not bleed...
Face me, and you will lose yours.
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2016.01.06 18:58:00 -
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I'm curious what the incentive is for EVE players other than it's a new experience, considering it's entirely stand alone and a bit arcadey. Guess we'll see how much the PSVR ends up being since this is supposed to come out for PS4 too.
If any of my posts seem severely negative, it's probably because they are.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.06 19:09:00 -
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I will be sticking to my google cardboard.
I did not expect it to be over $499.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Vahzz II
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.06 19:22:00 -
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Oh noes
I wonder, how bad can I be?
McLovin is scared of me.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2016.01.06 19:23:00 -
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soraya we should create our own and sell it for a reasonable price.
I'll set up a git hub repo.
Don't give me more likes.
ReversePyschology
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2016.01.06 19:23:00 -
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soraya we should create our own and sell it for a reasonable price.
I'll set up a git hub repo.
Don't give me more likes.
ReversePyschology
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2016.01.06 20:49:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:soraya we should create our own and sell it for a reasonable price.
I'll set up a git hub repo.
I'd like to preorder one for up to 449,000,000 isk
An isk cent over that though and I'll instead pay 449 people a million isk each to form an angry internet outrage mob about how you betrayed my expectations |
Thor Odinson42
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:07:00 -
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I respect them for being pioneers in the VR market, but this feels like a lesson is about to be learned. |
PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:13:00 -
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And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
Lets hope the sony version is affordable.
Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout
Open Beta Vet - 52 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:16:00 -
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Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:17:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...
Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
3
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:17:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah... Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.
Neat. To hell with Rift then.
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:49:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah... Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases. Neat. To hell with Rift then.
Don't think Playstation VR will be much cheaper-
Around 300 dollars perhaps. The good thing is we're going to pay it 300 Euro, not 500.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
#PortDust514
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Foundation Seldon
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:50:00 -
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I'll be waiting for a price drop ($400 is probably my maximum on something like this.) but i'm still super interested in VR technology. Hopefully Oculus choosing to price it this way doesn't too negatively effect its adoption rate. This is this generation's DVD or HDTV. Early adopters pay that premium until they can afford to bring prices down.
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:53:00 -
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I spent -ú2500 on a drumkit + double bass pedal etc
but somehow don't see the oculus being worth the money.
>>>YouTube!<<<
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Hawkings Greenback
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
505
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:56:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah... Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases. Neat. To hell with Rift then. Don't think Playstation VR will be much cheaper- Around 300 dollars perhaps. The good thing is we're going to pay it 300 Euro, not 500.
Maybe not but as a package PS4 & Morpheus will probably still run in at a better cost than the Rift & a PC ( or even upgrading a PC )
Welcome to Dust. The bitter, salty taste is a feature just like the lag.
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jordy mack
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 21:57:00 -
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god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
Less QQ more PewPew
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:01:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah... Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases. Neat. To hell with Rift then. Don't think Playstation VR will be much cheaper- Around 300 dollars perhaps. The good thing is we're going to pay it 300 Euro, not 500. Maybe not but as a package PS4 & Morpheus will probably still run in at a better cost than the Rift & a PC ( or even upgrading a PC )
Indeed, yes.
[I'll save you the typical #PCMASTERRACE arguments]
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
#PortDust514
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
3
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:02:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
it's not about being broke imo, it's about thinking something it's not worth the money, especially here in europe.
take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
#PortDust514
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
Preatoriani
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:06:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
it's not about being broke imo, it's about thinking something it's not worth the money, especially here in europe.
Pretty much. I could afford the Rift, but there's no way I'll put 740Gé¼ on it. That's daylight robbery !
Port it now !
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:14:00 -
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Between the pricing (even for a ps4) and severe motion sickness, I won't be playing Valkyrie. I only bought a ps3 to get Skylanders for my kids. I wasn't going to buy it just for DUST and I'm glad I didn't.
Oh well, Infinity Star Wars was the kids Christmas gift from Santa this year and we're having a blast with that now.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Nyain San
691
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:20:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
Most people can afford it but why bother when it's costs twice as much as a ps4 and will have plenty of bugs and complications for at least the first year..we're being smart and letting all the nerds who can't wait suffer and fix the issues for us |
Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:23:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
did you not read my post?
>>>YouTube!<<<
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james selim brownstein
NECROM0NGERS
195
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:31:00 -
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847$ AU... =ƒÿÆ
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
3
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:37:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
That's because I am!
99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg
Bittervet ADS pilot, redheads are hot.
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IR Scifi
OSG Planetary Operations
284
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:39:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
Lets hope the sony version is affordable.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly, I'd have to build an entirely new pc to use it looking at the minimum requirements.
Hopefully after the initial run version two will be a bit more affordable. |
lionshead nebula
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
268
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:42:00 -
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ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.
Upon this pedestal two thousand dreams were sacrificed so that their blood might fuel the many, for he is Legion.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:45:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
Lets hope the sony version is affordable.
Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing.
Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
241
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:45:00 -
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Just wait.
If it catches on, the price will drop significantly. They always price things stupidly at the start to recover development costs.
If it doesn't catch on, it would have been a wasted $699 or whatever it is in your country. It's a pity that this might actually end up being because the ridiculous starting price quashed any enthusiasm. We'll see what they do if sales are really poor.
The US price is always the cheapest, because they figure if they don't do that the US won't buy it. But wait long enough and the price is sure to drop one way or another. The only issue is, will you want to buy it when that time comes.... |
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
241
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Posted - 2016.01.06 22:48:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
Lets hope the sony version is affordable. Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing. Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.
If it won't run on a high-end laptop, I won't be running it. My days of buying overpriced workstations or for that matter, buying the components and building one are over. I love laptops now - they go anywhere, do virtually anything, and are all I need for even EvE Online. If Valkyrie doesn't run on them, forget it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.01.06 23:09:00 -
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I guess this means Valkyrie has officially flopped and CCP can turn their attention back to Dust, amirite?
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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Jadek Menaheim
Incorruptibles
8
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Posted - 2016.01.06 23:15:00 -
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lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.
Meme is old, but it checks out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
Really this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel.
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Admiral James Kirk
Rippers Taco Shack
98
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Posted - 2016.01.06 23:23:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch. Meme is old, but it checks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_twReally this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel.
They have hypnotism recordings that try to make a person get off without any physical stimulation. I can see how VR can enhance that type of experience.
alt of sgt kirk
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Jadek Menaheim
Incorruptibles
8
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Posted - 2016.01.06 23:27:00 -
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Admiral James Kirk wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch. Meme is old, but it checks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_twReally this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel. They have hypnotism recordings that try to make a person get off without any physical stimulation. I can see how VR can enhance that type of experience.
For niche fetishes like Vore and Gargantuan women stepping on you, I can see where VR can simulate this size difference far more easily and 'realistically' than 2D video.
Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
1
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Posted - 2016.01.06 23:45:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Admiral James Kirk wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch. Meme is old, but it checks out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_twReally this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel. They have hypnotism recordings that try to make a person get off without any physical stimulation. I can see how VR can enhance that type of experience. For niche fetishes like Vore and Gargantuan women stepping on you, I can see where VR can simulate this size difference far more easily and 'realistically' than 2D video.
oh
so that's why everyone in the promotional photos look like they're having so much... uh... fun. |
Jadek Menaheim
Incorruptibles
8
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Posted - 2016.01.07 00:09:00 -
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^ I believe the expression goes, "when you nut, but ya girl keep sucking."
Dust 514 Market Trello. The essential resource for trading in Dust.
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SOGZ PANDA
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
201
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Posted - 2016.01.07 00:37:00 -
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I'm Australian
I read that the prices aren't even in AUD, so we are essentially being asked to work out the exchange rate before going through with paying for it.
Tested it out to see how much it'll actually sell for.
$649 USD ($917 AUD).
They ask for your credit card/paypal details first before even going through with accepting any T's and C's.
It's like the greatest Nigerian Prince scam I have ever seen, "I sell Virtual Reality headset, please provide credit card details to process payment, and I 'promise' delivery in May 2016".
dust is life...
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
482
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:07:00 -
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With a price point like this, I venture to guess that only one percent of the one percent of computers that are even capable of running VR will actually invest in a Rift. $600 is way way over the amount that most hoping to buy into the Valkyrie pot were expecting, and is a massive kick in the groin after already investing the same amount to purchase an advanced GPU to support the hardware. This just goes to show that the capability for VR is here, but it's going to be reserved to only a handful of diehard proponents on the planet.
And I'm just the jerk to go ahead and actually pay the price. I really do believe in VR, and I desperately want to get in on the ground floor of Valkyrie and make a name for myself. But it's going to take some serious budgeting on my part just to get the equipment.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:11:00 -
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I was considering it but at that price point they made the choice to say no very easy.
Let's see if Sony VR can do better.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:19:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
I sell drugs and have 2 assist in real life and think that's a bad price for something like that.
Tyrant King, Opus Arcana
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
2
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:45:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:With a price point like this, I venture to guess that only one percent of the one percent of computers that are even capable of running VR will actually invest in a Rift. $600 is way way over the amount that most hoping to buy into the Valkyrie pot were expecting, and is a massive kick in the groin after already investing the same amount to purchase an advanced GPU to support the hardware. This just goes to show that the capability for VR is here, but it's going to be reserved to only a handful of diehard proponents on the planet.
And I'm just the jerk to go ahead and actually pay the price. I really do believe in VR, and I desperately want to get in on the ground floor of Valkyrie and make a name for myself. But it's going to take some serious budgeting on my part just to get the equipment.
The only positive thing I can say is, they allegedly won't be charging your credit card for the rift until they actually ship it in april/may/june/whenever, and you can cancel your preorder anytime, so you can preorder it now and have a few extra months to actually put the cash together if you've already been saving up for a ballpark
be advised there is also a bullshit shipping fee of approximately $30 and double bullshit sales tax fee of approximately $45 in the US
if you live outside the US may god have mercy on your wallet because the shipping and import taxes won't |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 02:58:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I was considering it but at that price point they made the choice to say no very easy.
Let's see if Sony VR can do better.
Totally agreed.
I will not be going for the Sony one tho because the primary reason I wanted a headset was for 3d movies which will not be very easy on the morpheus.
Google Cardboard will be my only VR for some time to come. It is actually pretty nice with my Nexus 6p.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
483
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:01:00 -
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You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad.
Rich Hipster With No Skill
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:04:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad.
Thats what you think right now.
Until you realize you are playing against a bunch of people that had to cut back on their internet bill to afford the roughly $2,000 you will need to play Eve Valkyrie.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
2
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:31:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Galm Fae wrote:You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad. Thats what you think right now. Until you realize you are playing against a bunch of people that had to cut back on their internet bill to afford the roughly $2,000 you will need to play Eve Valkyrie.
oh yeah
I think I still have some AOL CDs laying around
probably about 4000 free hours total |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:37:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Galm Fae wrote:You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad. Thats what you think right now. Until you realize you are playing against a bunch of people that had to cut back on their internet bill to afford the roughly $2,000 you will need to play Eve Valkyrie. oh yeah I think I still have some AOL CDs laying around probably about 4000 free hours total
YOU'VE GOT M¦¦A¦¦I¦¦L¦¦ LAG.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
They all laughed at him. Now, it's his turn to laugh.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:44:00 -
[59] - Quote
Thank you, Facebook.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
7
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Posted - 2016.01.07 03:53:00 -
[60] - Quote
Joel II X wrote:Thank you, Facebook.
Oh no, remember? Being bought out by Facebook supposedly allowed them to lower the price of the Rift. I hate to think what they would have tried to sell it for if they hadn't
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Foundation Seldon
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 05:06:00 -
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lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.
Different scenario, neither the 360 or the PS3 were marked up at release, both Sony and Microsoft were losing money for every console sold. For the technology we were getting at the time, both of those consoles were a steal at the prices they were offering them.
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I guess this means Valkyrie has officially flopped and CCP can turn their attention back to Dust, amirite?
Na, ignoring that we still don't have sales numbers from Oculus the fact that Valkyrie's also coming to PSVr means there's still a chance at getting a decent number of adopters. PSVR will be the cheapest gateway into a high end VR experience assuming you don't already have a gaming PC at the ready.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.01.07 06:18:00 -
[62] - Quote
You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
Can't you understand I want it to fail?
After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.
This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi.
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The Noob Destroyer
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 07:20:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
Can't you understand I want it to fail?
After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.
Savagry at it's finest.
PAS
People Against Signatures.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.01.07 08:01:00 -
[64] - Quote
I simply recognized hubris when I see it.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
10
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Posted - 2016.01.07 09:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
Pokey Dravon wrote:Joel II X wrote:Thank you, Facebook. Oh no, remember? Being bought out by Facebook supposedly allowed them to lower the price of the Rift. I hate to think what they would have tried to sell it for if they hadn't
Wasn't it announced for 300 bucks before Facebook bought it?
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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Foundation Seldon
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 14:12:00 -
[66] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
Can't you understand I want it to fail?
After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.
They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out.
Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2016.01.07 16:09:00 -
[67] - Quote
I hope Sony VR will cost as aimed, namely like a new console.
getting a rift in EU is expensive, with taxes and delivery it is almost 800Gé¼, additionally to a PC capable of VR.
if sony VR will be sold at, lets say 400Gé¼, then it will be a far better deal. sony vr + ps4 + ps4 camera would then come out at ~750Gé¼ which is about the price to get the rift only. |
Y0UR NAME HERE
Nyain San
692
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Posted - 2016.01.07 18:59:00 -
[68] - Quote
Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö |
deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 19:21:00 -
[69] - Quote
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö
Hololens is definitely going to beat all.
Considering it is not currently for sale and if you can get an invite it is several thousand dollars I do not think now is the time to be telling people to get it.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Nyain San
692
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Posted - 2016.01.07 19:29:00 -
[70] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö Hololens is definitely going to beat all. Considering it is not currently for sale and if you can get an invite it is several thousand dollars I do not think now is the time to be telling people to get it.
^ didn't mean for people to start pre ordering yet =ƒñù but something to look into before buying VR |
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 19:31:00 -
[71] - Quote
Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö Hololens is definitely going to beat all. Considering it is not currently for sale and if you can get an invite it is several thousand dollars I do not think now is the time to be telling people to get it. ^ didn't mean for people to start pre ordering yet =ƒñù but something to look into before buying VR
Oh yea I am pretty sure the hololens and other Augmented Reality devices are going to very quickly jump past VR.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Foundation Seldon
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 20:05:00 -
[72] - Quote
Magic Leap is the AR technology that everyone seems to be backing in the shadows though. When Google puts half a billion into your operation you start paying attention. What we know so far is that it seems to be beaming whatever AR image you have directly into your goddamn eyeballs. Kinda neat.
http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/534971/magic-leap/
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
2
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Posted - 2016.01.07 20:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
Lets hope the sony version is affordable. Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing. Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.
I read an article before the price was released saying the cost to use Oculus was $1500 for VR and PC. They guessed the PC would have to be around $800 and predicted a $600 VR.
Galassault Galogi Galsent Galmando Galscout
Open Beta Vet - 52 mil sp
Director of Corrosive Synergy
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 21:01:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:deezy dabest wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
Lets hope the sony version is affordable. Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing. Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have. I read an article before the price was released saying the cost to use Oculus was $1500 for VR and PC. They guessed the PC would have to be around $800 and predicted a $600 VR.
You are looking at roughly $350 for the minimum video card by itself.
That's not counting that most slightly older motherboards like mine lack the required 3 USB 3.0 ports as it was not long ago that only 2 of those ports was the standard on any gaming mobo.
Basically what it comes down to is many people will be required to build an almost entirely new PC just to run this thing.
From what I see it is nothing more than an LCD screen, a few sensors, and some headphones. The number of USB ports required tells me they could not even be bothered with optimizing the data feeds from the sensors.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.01.07 22:40:00 -
[75] - Quote
Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
Can't you understand I want it to fail?
After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off. They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out. Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh.
Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug.
What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does.
To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.07 23:13:00 -
[76] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug.
What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does.
To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity. And yes, I am openly hoping for them to fail because right now they deserve the sting of failure.
I do not believe it can be said any better than this.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Foundation Seldon
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.01.07 23:34:00 -
[77] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
Can't you understand I want it to fail?
After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off. They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out. Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh. Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug. What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does. To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity. And yes, I am openly hoping for them to fail because right now they deserve the sting of failure.
So they made a less than stellar game, announced a complete reboot of the Dust 514 concept with Legion (albeit in a pretty terrible way, the Rouge wedding was lol), went on immediate damage control after Legion and explained that assets would be transferrable from Dust. Later on they noted that they'd never again end up in a situation where they announce or show off pie in the sky 5+ year vision statements with little actual completed progress (there's your 'taking responsibility'), and then recommitted some of their resources with Rattati's team in making Dust on PS3 the best it could be within the limitations they were working under.
They were never obligated to do anything with Dust post Rouge wedding and that they have is apology enough in my book.
Regarding chasing 'high-risk ventures like VR' instead ... what do you think CCP is supposed to do as a business here? The positive reception around the original EVE VR tech demo was enormously positive and they saw an opportunity to become the face of Year 1-2 VR. Currently there is not a single game that looks better than Valkyrie announced on any VR platform right now and they've set themselves up to be bundled in with every pre-ordered Oculus shipped. That you think any of the above has done anything to their 'integrity' as a company probably means that you'd be better off stepping back for a while, if you genuinely feel 'offended' by the notion of how a multinational corporation decides to spend their money (especially when it's for ya know, videogame projects) then I think you've become too emotionally connected to be objective about all this anymore.
Besides, Valkyrie is CCP Atlanta's baby. We have literally no clue what Shanghai's been up to since Rouge.
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Y0UR NAME HERE
Nyain San
696
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Posted - 2016.01.08 14:57:00 -
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As far as we can tell dust is dead and there will be no port..VR well I'm not gonna pay that much for one so I wouldn't be surprised if it flops especially depending on all the bugs it will have...I have no issues with them letting dust die but the way they did it? Milk the players then take a leap of faith into the realm of VR for a different game...
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.08 17:22:00 -
[79] - Quote
Foundation Seldon wrote:
Besides, Valkyrie is CCP Atlanta's baby. We have literally no clue what Shanghai's been up to since Rouge.
Valkyrie is at the London office.
The only thing we know of Shanghai doing since Rouge is Gun Jack.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
1
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Posted - 2016.01.08 18:31:00 -
[80] - Quote
I heard Valkary and some cheaper VR game were included with the Rift. Not 100% on that though.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.08 18:38:00 -
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7th Son 7 wrote:I heard Valkary and some cheaper VR game were included with the Rift. Not 100% on that though.
Yes Valkyrie is bundled in the preorder of the Rift.
I will wait for some ******* that realized he hates VR to dump his rift on ebay for $400 and say screw Valkyrie.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
4
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Posted - 2016.01.09 20:15:00 -
[82] - Quote
After reviewing all the initial reactions it seems the outrage on the price is more sticker shock than anything.
Oculus sort of misrepresented the launch price but had they said in advance that it was going to be this price it would have hurt their hype. Many VR developers are gearing up for low take rates in the short term because of all of this.
While I hate to admit it CCP is probably sitting in the best possible position by being a bundled title on the Oculus and a first release once Project Morpheus drops. This will not help them much as early adoption is going to be very niche until the prices come down and used units start to hit the market.
Oculus would have been much better of losing some of the puff in the bundle and going with a basic starter kit at 100 - 150 dollars less while selling this as a premium bundle.
Sony is the most poised to make a great move if they can come in around the $400 price point which considering their size and manufacturing ability is very possible.
Personally I see Cardboard and specialized devices like the Gear VR being the short to mid term future of VR applications thanks to their ease of access and the fact that pretty much everyone already has a phone that will play the role of the screen.
o7 All #514InTheWind
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Foundation Seldon
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2016.01.10 01:45:00 -
[83] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote:
Oculus would have been much better of losing some of the puff in the bundle and going with a basic starter kit at 100 - 150 dollars less while selling this as a premium bundle.
In his AMA on Reddit Palmer says this :
http://i.imgur.com/k3EiTmn.png
And the takeaways is clear,
- The driving force for the cost of CV1 is the headset itself. The add ons, the controller, the high end audio, case and games are not significantly impacting the bottom line.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
6
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Posted - 2016.01.10 04:12:00 -
[84] - Quote
Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
Can't you understand I want it to fail?
After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off. They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out. Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh. Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug. What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does. To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity. And yes, I am openly hoping for them to fail because right now they deserve the sting of failure. So they made a less than stellar game, announced a complete reboot of the Dust 514 concept with Legion (albeit in a pretty terrible way, the Rouge wedding was lol), went on immediate damage control after Legion and explained that assets would be transferrable from Dust. Later on they noted that they'd never again end up in a situation where they announce or show off pie in the sky 5+ year vision statements with little actual completed progress (there's your 'taking responsibility'), and then recommitted some of their resources with Rattati's team in making Dust on PS3 the best it could be within the limitations they were working under. They were never obligated to do anything with Dust post Rouge wedding and that they have is apology enough in my book. Regarding chasing 'high-risk ventures like VR' instead ... what do you think CCP is supposed to do as a business here? The positive reception around the original EVE VR tech demo was enormously positive and they saw an opportunity to become the face of Year 1-2 VR. Currently there is not a single game that looks better than Valkyrie announced on any VR platform right now and they've set themselves up to be bundled in with every pre-ordered Oculus shipped. That you think any of the above has done anything to their 'integrity' as a company probably means that you'd be better off stepping back for a while, if you genuinely feel 'offended' by the notion of how a multinational corporation decides to spend their money (especially when it's for ya know, videogame projects) then I think you've become too emotionally connected to be objective about all this anymore. Besides, Valkyrie is CCP Atlanta's baby. We have literally no clue what Shanghai's been up to since Rouge.
Atlanta isn't anything. It's where devs go to get fired.
Anyhow, you seem to be arguing with yourself about my theoretical notions about how businesses work. Since you seem to be going way off kilter allow me to correct your course so you don't crash into the moon. A business exists to make money. However, when a business relies on long-term investments from its customers to stay afloat then the question of ethics and expectations becomes relevant. CCP fails at this incredibly hard.
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Soraya Xel
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
6
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Posted - 2016.01.11 03:17:00 -
[85] - Quote
Foundation Seldon wrote:And the takeaways is clear,
- The driving force for the cost of CV1 is the headset itself. The add ons, the controller, the high end audio, case and games are not significantly impacting the bottom line.
The problem is that the cost of the headset they chose to build is irrelevant. They chose to build a headset that wasn't priced in line with what it would offer a consumer looking to buy it. It's clear Palmer chose to go for 'the best possible', as he says himself. But most consumer devices AREN'T the best possible. Game consoles and computers are generally priced and then specced on what consumers will find reasonable to pay for what they get out of it.
Very few people will feel they get their money's worth on a $600 Oculus.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2016.01.12 12:39:00 -
[86] - Quote
if they hadnt used custom materials, custom audio and whatever custom thing this toy has then it would be cheaper.
I fully expect the Sony VR to be cheaper, they are going for consumer grade hardware you find in smartphones and probably can use their own distribution/production from their smartphone branche |
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