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          Soraya Xel 
          Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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          I don't think anyone expected it to be over $399.
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          Sequal's Back 
          Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
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          And it's 700Gé¼ in Europe + 43Gé¼ for the delivery..
  743Gé¼ ~= 950$
  Wtf ?
 Port it now ! 
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          Soto Gallente 
          BLUEBERRIES WITH AUTISM RUST415
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          Sequal's Back wrote:And it's 700Gé¼ in Europe + 43Gé¼ for the delivery..
  743Gé¼ ~= 950$
  Wtf ?   'murica!
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          Natalia's P3nis 
          Fake Ancient Exiles. 2.0
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          I Thought from reading that the price was going to be cheaper to reach a bigger consumer base. I thought that was the purpose behind Facebook buying it for 2 billion dollars | 
      
      
      
          
          maybe deadcatz 
          Serris Inc
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          Only 599? Wow it must be helluva more expensive in other countries.
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          Mobius Wyvern 
          Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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          LOLWUT
  That is an INSANE price! And you don't even get Valkyrie with it unless you Pre-Order?
  I'm not sure what they're thinking. This also makes me scared of how pricy SteamVR is going to be considering they warned it would be more expensive than the Rift.
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A link from past to future 
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          jett it 
          S.K.I.L.L OF G.O.D General Tso's Alliance
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          I want my money back and i have not even bought it yet....
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          MrShooter01 
          Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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          Mobius Wyvern wrote:LOLWUT
  That is an INSANE price! And you don't even get Valkyrie with it unless you Pre-Order?
  I'm not sure what they're thinking. This also makes me scared of how pricy SteamVR is going to be considering they warned it would be more expensive than the Rift.  
  As some other people have been saying, in their defense, HTC was talking about it being more expensive than the Rift back when the great betrayer suggested that the price would be "in the ballpark of $350"
  For all we know Vive could be like "lol thanks for handing us the entire market" and sell at $500
  Then again, that wouldn't crush my spirits as bad so who am I kidding it'll probably be over 1000 | 
      
      
      
          
          John Psi 
          Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance
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          DJINN Heartreaper 
          Negative-Feedback.
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          Soraya Xel wrote:I don't think anyone expected it to be over $399.   I did, I told everyone I wouldn't buy one cuz it would cost more than 2 systems..with all the bugs and issues it's bound to have I feel bad for anyone dumb enough to buy one within the first year | 
      
      
      
          
          Stefan Stahl 
          Seituoda Taskforce Command
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          Do you get a free T-shirt that says "I payed 600 $ (+tax) for a headset and all I got was Eve Valkyrie"? | 
      
      
      
          
          I Blame Society 
          Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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          I'd rather lick the shitskid from the inside of a toilet bowl than buy it for 600$.
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          DUST Fiend 
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          I'm curious what the incentive is for EVE players other than it's a new experience, considering it's entirely stand alone and a bit arcadey. Guess we'll see how much the PSVR ends up being since this is supposed to come out for PS4 too. 
 
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          deezy dabest 
          IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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          I will be sticking to my google cardboard. 
  I did not expect it to be over $499.
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          Vahzz II 
          Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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          Oh noes
 I wonder, how bad can I be? 
McLovin is scared of me. 
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          General John Ripper 
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          soraya we should create our own and sell it for a reasonable price. 
  I'll set up a git hub repo.
 Don't give me more likes. 
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          Immortal John Ripper 
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          soraya we should create our own and sell it for a reasonable price. 
  I'll set up a git hub repo.
 Don't give me more likes. 
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          MrShooter01 
          Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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          Immortal John Ripper wrote:soraya we should create our own and sell it for a reasonable price. 
  I'll set up a git hub repo.   
  I'd like to preorder one for up to 449,000,000 isk
  An isk cent over that though and I'll instead pay 449 people a million isk each to form an angry internet outrage mob about how you betrayed my expectations | 
      
      
      
          
          Thor Odinson42 
          Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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          I respect them for being pioneers in the VR market, but this feels like a lesson is about to be learned. | 
      
      
      
          
          PLAYSTTION 
          Corrosive Synergy RUST415
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          And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
  Lets hope the sony version is affordable.
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          Derrith Erador 
          Fatal Absolution
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          Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...
 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg 
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          Soraya Xel 
          Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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          Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...  
  Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.
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          Derrith Erador 
          Fatal Absolution
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          Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...  Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.   Neat. To hell with Rift then.
 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg 
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          xxwhitedevilxx M 
          Maphia Clan Corporation
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          Derrith Erador wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...  Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.  Neat. To hell with Rift then.   Don't think Playstation VR will be much cheaper-
  Around 300 dollars perhaps. The good thing is we're going to pay it 300 Euro, not 500.
 take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
 #PortDust514 
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          Foundation Seldon 
          Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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          I'll be waiting for a price drop ($400 is probably my maximum on something like this.) but i'm still super interested in VR technology. Hopefully Oculus choosing to price it this way doesn't too negatively effect its adoption rate. This is this generation's DVD or HDTV. Early adopters pay that premium until they can afford to bring prices down. 
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          Count- -Crotchula 
          TasteTheTamsen
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          I spent -ú2500 on a drumkit + double bass pedal etc
  but somehow don't see the oculus being worth the money.
 >>>YouTube!<<< 
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          Hawkings Greenback 
          Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
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          xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...  Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.  Neat. To hell with Rift then.  Don't think Playstation VR will be much cheaper- Around 300 dollars perhaps. The good thing is we're going to pay it 300 Euro, not 500.  
  Maybe not but as a package PS4 & Morpheus will probably still run in at a better cost than the Rift & a PC ( or even upgrading a PC )
 
 
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          jordy mack 
          WarRavens Imperium Eden
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          god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
 
 Less QQ more PewPew 
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          xxwhitedevilxx M 
          Maphia Clan Corporation
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          Hawkings Greenback wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Derrith Erador wrote:Wait, is Valkyrie exclusively on the Rift, or can any VR use it? I'm not very tech savvy, so yeah...  Rift and then PlayStation VR when it releases.  Neat. To hell with Rift then.  Don't think Playstation VR will be much cheaper- Around 300 dollars perhaps. The good thing is we're going to pay it 300 Euro, not 500.  Maybe not but as a package PS4 & Morpheus will probably still run in at a better cost than the Rift & a PC ( or even upgrading a PC )  
  Indeed, yes. 
  [I'll save you the typical #PCMASTERRACE arguments]
 take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
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          xxwhitedevilxx M 
          Maphia Clan Corporation
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          jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
   
  it's not about being broke imo, it's about thinking something it's not worth the money, especially here in europe.
 take time or take aurums (Gò»#-_-)Gò»~~~GòºGòÉGòº [FSTNM SCDNM]
 #PortDust514 
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          Sequal's Back 
          Dead Man's Game Preatoriani
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          xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
   it's not about being broke imo, it's about thinking something it's not worth the money, especially here in europe.   Pretty much. I could afford the Rift, but there's no way I'll put 740Gé¼ on it. That's daylight robbery !
 Port it now ! 
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          Operative 1174 Uuali 
          True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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          Between the pricing (even for a ps4) and severe motion sickness, I won't be playing Valkyrie. I only bought a ps3 to get Skylanders for my kids. I wasn't going to buy it just for DUST and I'm glad I didn't.
  Oh well, Infinity Star Wars was the kids Christmas gift from Santa this year and we're having a blast with that now.
 CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking. 
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          Y0UR NAME HERE 
          Nyain San
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          jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
    Most people can afford it but why bother when it's costs twice as much as a ps4 and will have plenty of bugs and complications for at least the first year..we're being smart and letting all the nerds who can't wait suffer and fix the issues for us | 
      
      
      
          
          Count- -Crotchula 
          TasteTheTamsen
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          jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
   
 
  did you not read my post?
 >>>YouTube!<<< 
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          james selim brownstein 
          NECROM0NGERS
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          847$ AU... =ƒÿÆ
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Gò¡Gê¬Gò«n+ên+¦n++n+¦n+ë 
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          Derrith Erador 
          Fatal Absolution
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          jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
    That's because I am!
 99% of what Derrith says is stupidity. -D3lta Blitzkrieg 
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          IR Scifi 
          OSG Planetary Operations
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          PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
  Lets hope the sony version is affordable.  
  Pretty much my thoughts exactly, I'd have to build an entirely new pc to use it looking at the minimum requirements.
  Hopefully after the initial run version two will be a bit more affordable. | 
      
      
      
          
          lionshead nebula 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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          ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch. 
 Upon this pedestal two thousand dreams were sacrificed so that their blood might fuel the many, for he is Legion. 
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          deezy dabest 
          IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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          PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
  Lets hope the sony version is affordable.  
 
  Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing. 
  Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.
 o7 All #514InTheWind 
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          Alena Asakura 
          Caldari Logistics Reserve
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          Just wait. 
  If it catches on, the price will drop significantly. They always price things stupidly at the start to recover development costs.
  If it doesn't catch on, it would have been a wasted $699 or whatever it is in your country. It's a pity that this might actually end up being because the ridiculous starting price quashed any enthusiasm. We'll see what they do if sales are really poor.
  The US price is always the cheapest, because they figure if they don't do that the US won't buy it. But wait long enough and the price is sure to drop one way or another. The only issue is, will you want to buy it when that time comes.... | 
      
      
      
          
          Alena Asakura 
          Caldari Logistics Reserve
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          deezy dabest wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
  Lets hope the sony version is affordable.  Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing.  Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.    If it won't run on a high-end laptop, I won't be running it. My days of buying overpriced workstations or for that matter, buying the components and building one are over. I love laptops now - they go anywhere, do virtually anything, and are all I need for even EvE Online. If Valkyrie doesn't run on them, forget it. | 
      
      
      
          
          Himiko Kuronaga 
          Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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          I guess this means Valkyrie has officially flopped and CCP can turn their attention back to Dust, amirite?
 This is a positive and endearing message brought to you by Himi. 
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Incorruptibles
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          lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.    Meme is old, but it checks out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_tw
  Really this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel.
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          Admiral James Kirk 
          Rippers Taco Shack
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          Jadek Menaheim wrote:lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.   Meme is old, but it checks out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_twReally this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel.    They have hypnotism recordings that try to make a person get off without any physical stimulation. I can see how VR can enhance that type of experience.
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          Jadek Menaheim 
          Incorruptibles
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          Admiral James Kirk wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.   Meme is old, but it checks out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_twReally this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel.   They have hypnotism recordings that try to make a person get off without any physical stimulation. I can see how VR can enhance that type of experience.    For niche fetishes like Vore and Gargantuan women stepping on you, I can see where VR can simulate this size difference far more easily and 'realistically' than 2D video.
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          MrShooter01 
          Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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          Jadek Menaheim wrote:Admiral James Kirk wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.   Meme is old, but it checks out.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOHqG1nc_twReally this price isn't really that outrageous considering the cost of the hardware to run a high end VR experience. I'm going to pass, however this purchase price makes sense for early adopters (particular investing in a novel VR P O R N experience), or the youtubers investing in hits for their channel.   They have hypnotism recordings that try to make a person get off without any physical stimulation. I can see how VR can enhance that type of experience.   For niche fetishes like Vore and Gargantuan women stepping on you, I can see where VR can simulate this size difference far more easily and 'realistically' than 2D video.   
  oh
  so that's why everyone in the promotional photos look like they're having so much... uh... fun. | 
      
      
      
          
          Jadek Menaheim 
          Incorruptibles
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          ^ I believe the expression goes, "when you nut, but ya girl keep sucking."
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          SOGZ PANDA 
          WarRavens Imperium Eden
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          I'm Australian
  I read that the prices aren't even in AUD, so we are essentially being asked to work out the exchange rate before going through with paying for it.
  Tested it out to see how much it'll actually sell for.
  $649 USD ($917 AUD).
  They ask for your credit card/paypal details first before even going through with accepting any T's and C's.
  It's like the greatest Nigerian Prince scam I have ever seen, "I sell Virtual Reality headset, please provide credit card details to process payment, and I 'promise' delivery in May 2016".
 
 
 dust is life... 
... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing. 
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          Galm Fae 
          Eskola Ergonomics
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          With a price point like this, I venture to guess that only one percent of the one percent of computers that are even capable of running VR will actually invest in a Rift. $600 is way way over the amount that most hoping to buy into the Valkyrie pot were expecting, and is a massive kick in the groin after already investing the same amount to purchase an advanced GPU to support the hardware. This just goes to show that the capability for VR is here, but it's going to be reserved to only a handful of diehard proponents on the planet. 
  And I'm just the jerk to go ahead and actually pay the price. I really do believe in VR, and I desperately want to get in on the ground floor of Valkyrie and make a name for myself. But it's going to take some serious budgeting on my part just to get the equipment.
 Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara! 
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra! 
 
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          Pokey Dravon 
          OSG Planetary Operations
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          I was considering it but at that price point they made the choice to say no very easy.
  Let's see if Sony VR can do better.
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          Ahkhomi Cypher 
          Opus Arcana
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          jordy mack wrote:god u all sound like a bunch of broke whiney biatches.
 
   
  I sell drugs and have 2 assist in real life and think that's a bad price for something like that.
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          MrShooter01 
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          Galm Fae wrote:With a price point like this, I venture to guess that only one percent of the one percent of computers that are even capable of running VR will actually invest in a Rift. $600 is way way over the amount that most hoping to buy into the Valkyrie pot were expecting, and is a massive kick in the groin after already investing the same amount to purchase an advanced GPU to support the hardware. This just goes to show that the capability for VR is here, but it's going to be reserved to only a handful of diehard proponents on the planet. 
  And I'm just the jerk to go ahead and actually pay the price. I really do believe in VR, and I desperately want to get in on the ground floor of Valkyrie and make a name for myself. But it's going to take some serious budgeting on my part just to get the equipment.   
 
  The only positive thing I can say is, they allegedly won't be charging your credit card for the rift until they actually ship it in april/may/june/whenever, and you can cancel your preorder anytime, so you can preorder it now and have a few extra months to actually put the cash together if you've already been saving up for a ballpark
  be advised there is also a bullshit shipping fee of approximately $30 and double bullshit sales tax fee of approximately $45 in the US
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          Pokey Dravon wrote:I was considering it but at that price point they made the choice to say no very easy.
  Let's see if Sony VR can do better.  
  Totally agreed. 
  I will not be going for the Sony one tho because the primary reason I wanted a headset was for 3d movies which will not be very easy on the morpheus. 
 
  Google Cardboard will be my only VR for some time to come. It is actually pretty nice with my Nexus 6p. 
 
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          You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad.
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          Galm Fae wrote:You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad.   
  Thats what you think right now. 
  Until you realize you are playing against a bunch of people that had to cut back on their internet bill to afford the roughly $2,000 you will need to play Eve Valkyrie.
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          MrShooter01 
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          deezy dabest wrote:Galm Fae wrote:You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad.   Thats what you think right now.  Until you realize you are playing against a bunch of people that had to cut back on their internet bill to afford the roughly $2,000 you will need to play Eve Valkyrie.   
  oh yeah
  I think I still have some AOL CDs laying around
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          MrShooter01 wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Galm Fae wrote:You know I just realized something... If that huge price point does anything for us it serves as great insurance that I'll never have to worry about the Brazilian lag squad.   Thats what you think right now.  Until you realize you are playing against a bunch of people that had to cut back on their internet bill to afford the roughly $2,000 you will need to play Eve Valkyrie.   oh yeah I think I still have some AOL CDs laying around probably about 4000 free hours total  
 
  YOU'VE GOT M¦¦A¦¦I¦¦L¦¦ LAG.
 
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          Joel II X 
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           They all laughed at him. Now, it's his turn to laugh.
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          Joel II X 
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          Thank you, Facebook.
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          Pokey Dravon 
          OSG Planetary Operations
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          Joel II X wrote:Thank you, Facebook.   
  Oh no, remember? Being bought out by Facebook supposedly allowed them to lower the price of the Rift. I hate to think what they would have tried to sell it for if they hadn't
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          lionshead nebula wrote:ITT: People who have forgotten the massive price mark-ups on new electronics, or the PS3 at launch.   
  Different scenario, neither the 360 or the PS3 were marked up at release, both Sony and Microsoft were losing money for every console sold. For the technology we were getting at the time, both of those consoles were a steal at the prices they were offering them.
 
 Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I guess this means Valkyrie has officially flopped and CCP can turn their attention back to Dust, amirite?  
  Na, ignoring that we still don't have sales numbers from Oculus the fact that Valkyrie's also coming to PSVr means there's still a chance at getting a decent number of adopters. PSVR will be the cheapest gateway into a high end VR experience assuming you don't already have a gaming PC at the ready. 
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          Himiko Kuronaga 
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          You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
  Can't you understand I want it to fail?
  After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.
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          Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
  Can't you understand I want it to fail?
  After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.  
  Savagry at it's finest.
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          I simply recognized hubris when I see it.
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          Pokey Dravon wrote:Joel II X wrote:Thank you, Facebook.   Oh no, remember? Being bought out by Facebook supposedly allowed them to  lower the price of the Rift. I hate to think what they would have tried to sell it for if they hadn't   Wasn't it announced for 300 bucks before Facebook bought it?
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          Foundation Seldon 
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          Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
  Can't you understand I want it to fail?
  After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.  
  They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out.
  Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh. 
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          I hope Sony VR will cost as aimed, namely like a new console.
  getting a rift in EU is expensive, with taxes and delivery it is almost 800Gé¼, additionally to a PC capable of VR.
  if sony VR will be sold at, lets say 400Gé¼, then it will be a far better deal. sony vr + ps4 + ps4 camera would then come out at ~750Gé¼ which is about the price to get the rift only. | 
      
      
      
          
          Y0UR NAME HERE 
          Nyain San
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          Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö | 
      
      
      
          
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          Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö  
  Hololens is definitely going to beat all. 
  Considering it is not currently for sale and if you can get an invite it is several thousand dollars I do not think now is the time to be telling people to get it.
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          Y0UR NAME HERE 
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          deezy dabest wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö  Hololens is definitely going to beat all.  Considering it is not currently for sale and if you can get an invite it is several thousand dollars I do not think now is the time to be telling people to get it.    ^ didn't mean for people to start pre ordering yet =ƒñù but something to look into before buying VR | 
      
      
      
          
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          Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Y0UR NAME HERE wrote:Buy hololens and use it on PC =ƒñö  Hololens is definitely going to beat all.  Considering it is not currently for sale and if you can get an invite it is several thousand dollars I do not think now is the time to be telling people to get it.   ^ didn't mean for people to start pre ordering yet =ƒñù but something to look into before buying VR   
  Oh yea I am pretty sure the hololens and other Augmented Reality devices are going to very quickly jump past VR.
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          Foundation Seldon 
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          Magic Leap is the AR technology that everyone seems to be backing in the shadows though. When Google puts half a billion into your operation you start paying attention. What we know so far is that it seems to be beaming whatever AR image you have directly into your goddamn eyeballs. Kinda neat. 
  http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/534971/magic-leap/ 
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          deezy dabest wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
  Lets hope the sony version is affordable.  Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing.  Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.    I read an article before the price was released saying the cost to use Oculus was $1500 for VR and PC. They guessed the PC would have to be around $800 and predicted a $600 VR.
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          PLAYSTTION wrote:deezy dabest wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:And thats not including the price of the beastly PC you'll need to use it.
  Lets hope the sony version is affordable.  Thats exactly my issue with the price. For me I would have to drop a few hundred into a new video card putting my total price at nearly $1000 to play with the freaking thing.  Sorry but no games worth a down payment on a car no matter how much money you have.   I read an article before the price was released saying the cost to use Oculus was $1500 for VR and PC. They guessed the PC would have to be around $800 and predicted a $600 VR.  
  You are looking at roughly $350 for the minimum video card by itself. 
  That's not counting that most slightly older motherboards like mine lack the required 3 USB 3.0 ports as it was not long ago that only 2 of those ports was the standard on any gaming mobo.
  Basically what it comes down to is many people will be required to build an almost entirely new PC just to run this thing. 
  From what I see it is nothing more than an LCD screen, a few sensors, and some headphones. The number of USB ports required tells me they could not even be bothered with optimizing the data feeds from the sensors.
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          Himiko Kuronaga 
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          Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
  Can't you understand I want it to fail?
  After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.  They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out. Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh.  
 
  Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug.
  What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does.
  To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity.
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          Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
  Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug.
  What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does.
  To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity. And yes, I am openly hoping for them to fail because right now they deserve the sting of failure.
  
 
  I do not believe it can be said any better than this. 
 
 
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          Foundation Seldon 
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          Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
  Can't you understand I want it to fail?
  After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.  They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out. Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh.  Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug. What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does. To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity. And yes, I am openly hoping for them to fail because right now they deserve the sting of failure.  
  So they made a less than stellar game, announced a complete reboot of the Dust 514 concept with Legion (albeit in a pretty terrible way, the Rouge wedding was lol), went on immediate damage control after Legion and explained that assets would be transferrable from Dust. Later on they noted that they'd never again end up in a situation where they announce or show off pie in the sky 5+ year vision statements with little actual completed progress (there's your 'taking responsibility'), and then recommitted some of their resources with Rattati's team in making Dust on PS3 the best it could be within the limitations they were working under. 
  They were never obligated to do anything with Dust post Rouge wedding and that they have is apology enough in my book. 
  Regarding chasing 'high-risk ventures like VR' instead ... what do you think CCP is supposed to do as a business here? The positive reception around the original EVE VR tech demo was enormously positive and they saw an opportunity to become the face of Year 1-2 VR. Currently there is not a single game that looks better than Valkyrie announced on any VR platform right now and they've set themselves up to be bundled in with every pre-ordered Oculus shipped. That you think any of the above has done anything to their 'integrity' as a company probably means that you'd be better off stepping back for a while, if you genuinely feel 'offended' by the notion of how a multinational corporation decides to spend their money (especially when it's for ya know, videogame projects) then I think you've become too emotionally connected to be objective about all this anymore. 
  Besides, Valkyrie is CCP Atlanta's baby. We have literally no clue what Shanghai's been up to since Rouge. 
 
 
  
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          Y0UR NAME HERE 
          Nyain San
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          As far as we can tell dust is dead and there will be no port..VR well I'm not gonna pay that much for one so I wouldn't be surprised if it flops especially depending on all the bugs it will have...I have no issues with them letting dust die but the way they did it? Milk the players then take a leap of faith into the realm of VR for a different game...
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          Foundation Seldon wrote:
  Besides, Valkyrie is CCP Atlanta's baby. We have literally no clue what Shanghai's been up to since Rouge. 
 
 
  
 
  Valkyrie is at the London office. 
  The only thing we know of Shanghai doing since Rouge is Gun Jack. 
 
 
 
 
 
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          I heard Valkary and some cheaper VR game were included with the Rift. Not 100% on that though.
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          7th Son 7 wrote:I heard Valkary and some cheaper VR game were included with the Rift. Not 100% on that though.  
  Yes Valkyrie is bundled in the preorder of the Rift. 
  I will wait for some ******* that realized he hates VR to dump his rift on ebay for $400 and say screw Valkyrie.
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          After reviewing all the initial reactions it seems the outrage on the price is more sticker shock than anything. 
  Oculus sort of misrepresented the launch price but had they said in advance that it was going to be this price it would have hurt their hype. Many VR developers are gearing up for low take rates in the short term because of all of this. 
  While I hate to admit it CCP is probably sitting in the best possible position by being a bundled title on the Oculus and a first release once Project Morpheus drops. This will not help them much as early adoption is going to be very niche until the prices come down and used units start to hit the market. 
  Oculus would have been much better of losing some of the puff in the bundle and going with a basic starter kit at 100 - 150 dollars less while selling this as a premium bundle. 
  Sony is the most poised to make a great move if they can come in around the $400 price point which considering their size and manufacturing ability is very possible. 
 
  Personally I see Cardboard and specialized devices like the Gear VR being the short to mid term future of VR applications thanks to their ease of access and the fact that pretty much everyone already has a phone that will play the role of the screen.
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          Foundation Seldon 
          Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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          deezy dabest wrote:
  Oculus would have been much better of losing some of the puff in the bundle and going with a basic starter kit at 100 - 150 dollars less while selling this as a premium bundle. 
  
  In his AMA on Reddit Palmer says this : http://i.imgur.com/k3EiTmn.png
  And the takeaways is clear, 
 
 -  The driving force for the cost of CV1 is the headset itself. The add ons, the controller, the high end audio, case and games are not significantly impacting the bottom line. 
 
  
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          Himiko Kuronaga 
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          Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:You're wetting my blanket and I don't appreciate that. (I mean, really... no one would)
  Can't you understand I want it to fail?
  After what CCP has done to Dust, Karma is a welcome guest to this dinner table. Don't go chasing her off.  They made a less than stellar lobby shooter (with some really cool ideas, the act of customizing a fit is really fun) on a platform that was on its way out and weren't able to achieve some of their overarching ambitions with the title. That puts them in league with like ... almost every developer ever, sometimes **** doesn't work out. Some of you guys act like CCP killed your dog or something, sheesh.  Screwing a game up can be forgiven. I'm referring to how they treated the Dust community afterwards. Rouge wedding notwithstanding, They did not take responsibility for their promises and screwups, they got caught between milking the existing playerbase and sweeping the whole affair under the rug. What makes CCP deplorable in this situation is that they attempted to do both at the same time. Respectable individuals do not do that kind of thing. CCP openly does. To make things worse is that when given the opportunity to right the wrongs of the past, they decided to chase a high-risk venture like VR instead. That's a complete lack of integrity. And yes, I am openly hoping for them to fail because right now they deserve the sting of failure.  So they made a less than stellar game, announced a complete reboot of the Dust 514 concept with Legion (albeit in a pretty terrible way, the Rouge wedding was lol), went on immediate damage control after Legion and explained that assets would be transferrable from Dust. Later on they noted that they'd never again end up in a situation where they announce or show off pie in the sky 5+ year vision statements with little actual completed progress (there's your 'taking responsibility'), and then recommitted some of their resources with Rattati's team in making Dust on PS3 the best it could be within the limitations they were working under.  They were never obligated to do anything with Dust post Rouge wedding and that they have is apology enough in my book.  Regarding chasing 'high-risk ventures like VR' instead ... what do you think CCP is supposed to do as a business here? The positive reception around the original EVE VR tech demo was enormously positive and they saw an opportunity to become the face of Year 1-2 VR. Currently there is not a single game that looks better than Valkyrie announced on any VR platform right now and they've set themselves up to be bundled in with every pre-ordered Oculus shipped. That you think any of the above has done anything to their 'integrity' as a company probably means that you'd be better off stepping back for a while, if you genuinely feel 'offended' by the notion of how a multinational corporation decides to spend their money (especially when it's for ya know, videogame projects) then I think you've become too emotionally connected to be objective about all this anymore.  Besides, Valkyrie is CCP Atlanta's baby. We have literally no clue what Shanghai's been up to since Rouge.   
  Atlanta isn't anything. It's where devs go to get fired.
  Anyhow, you seem to be arguing with yourself about my theoretical notions about how businesses work. Since you seem to be going way off kilter allow me to correct your course so you don't crash into the moon. A business exists to make money. However, when a business relies on long-term investments from its customers to stay afloat then the question of ethics and expectations becomes relevant. CCP fails at this incredibly hard.
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          Soraya Xel 
          Random Gunz Rise Of Legion.
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          Foundation Seldon wrote:And the takeaways is clear,  
 -  The driving force for the cost of CV1 is the headset itself. The add ons, the controller, the high end audio, case and games are not significantly impacting the bottom line. 
 
  
  The problem is that the cost of the headset they chose to build is irrelevant. They chose to build a headset that wasn't priced in line with what it would offer a consumer looking to buy it. It's clear Palmer chose to go for 'the best possible', as he says himself. But most consumer devices AREN'T the best possible. Game consoles and computers are generally priced and then specced on what consumers will find reasonable to pay for what they get out of it.
  Very few people will feel they get their money's worth on a $600 Oculus.
 CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback. 
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          Jack McReady 
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          if they hadnt used custom materials, custom audio and whatever custom thing this toy has then it would be cheaper.
  I fully expect the Sony VR to be cheaper, they are going for consumer grade hardware you find in smartphones and probably can use their own distribution/production from their smartphone branche | 
      
      
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