Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.04 21:33:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:No. Non specialized frames shall not receive bonuses.
I don't entirely agree. Right now there is little incentive to use frames for really anything, and while I think they should be sub-par to a specialized frame within its own specialty, it should still have a decent level of usefulness.
In some regards we've already taken steps to make this happen. For example the Medium Frame (in most cases) is structured as a middle ground between an Assault and a Logistics. It tends to have the middle ground between speed and defense, has more equipment than an Assault but less than a Logistics, and has a sidearm like an Assault but unlike the Logistics.
I think giving it a mix of bonuses between the two specialties, but ultimately weaker bonuses within a specific category, isn't a terrible train of thought to entertain. Ultimately a Logi will still be a better Logi than the Medium Frame, and an Assault will still be a better Assault than a Medium Frame, but the Medium Frame would have a degree of flexibility which is really indicative of the generalist role it is supposed to fill.
Now as for specifics on values I won't really comment, but they need to be clearly inferior to the specialized version within that bonus, but also not completely lackluster as deezy pointed out.
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2016.01.05 00:25:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Originally basic frames were suppose to be more similar to T1 while specialized suits were to be like T2.
The first thing that broke this was a lack of bonuses. If you look at Eve the bonuses center around weapons and defenses with the other ships getting bonuses to ewar and what not but Dust did not have the racial parity at the time to even consider that type of implementation. Upon realizing this the requirement for specialized suits was dropped and the totally useless basic frames were born. With no uses they fell into being ignored and became even less likely to get any attention.
Nailed it.
In the case of the Amarr Heavy frame, if you followed the EVE model, it would be like
+% to Laser Weapon Damage +% to Armor Damage Resistance
"That little sh*t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati
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