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        |  No-one-ganks like-Gaston
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
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      | Posted - 2016.01.03 18:53:00 -
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 So I don't know how long this has been a thing, but, once a dropship's shields are gone, laser rifles do 100% damage to the armor. A dropship bumped a wall slightly and my pumped up Laser Rifle brought it down from 900 armor to 0 in seconds flat. I once even had a dropship that showed my laser rifle did 196% damage to it. Sure enough, that thing went ******* down.
 
 It happens so quickly I'm not able to take a picture of it, but if I see another dropship I'll grab my phone.
 
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        |  Regnier Feros
 Dead Man's Game
 Preatoriani
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 18:54:00 -
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 Only works against shield based dropships
 
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
 
 6
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 18:55:00 -
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 I believe you're thinking of caldari dropships, and this applies to all rifles not just laser rifles.
 
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        |  Radiant Pancake3
 Celestial Phoenixes
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 18:55:00 -
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 No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:So I don't know how long this has been a thing, but, once a dropship's shields are gone, laser rifles do 100% damage to the armor. A dropship bumped a wall slightly and my pumped up Laser Rifle brought it down from 900 armor to 0 in seconds flat. I once even had a dropship that showed my laser rifle did 196% damage to it. Sure enough, that thing went ******* down.
 It happens so quickly I'm not able to take a picture of it, but if I see another dropship I'll grab my phone.
 For Shield LAVS/Dropships and maybe tanks... Once their shields are down every weapon does about 100% damage to it...
 This is why Armor is the meta for vehicles.
 
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        |  No-one-ganks like-Gaston
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 763
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 18:55:00 -
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 Regnier Feros wrote:Only works against shield based dropships That is sad beyond measure. They're already fragile butterflies, and normal weaponry is able to just mow it down, too? Oh well. I know how to get rid of dropships now.
 
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        |  No-one-ganks like-Gaston
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 763
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 18:56:00 -
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 Wow, holy ****, so it just completely sucks for anything shield based. CCP really does love the armor meta.
 
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
 
 6
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:00:00 -
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 Mobility has to have a tradeoff somewhere.
 
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        |  No-one-ganks like-Gaston
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 765
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:03:00 -
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 Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mobility has to have a tradeoff somewhere. Being rocked by swarm launchers, plasma cannons, and forge guns, only to be killed off by the **** stream of a laser rifle isn't the tradeoff I was imagining one would have for the sake of 'mobility'.
 
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        |  Shamarskii Simon
 The Hundred Acre Hood
 
 555
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:05:00 -
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 Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I believe you're thinking of caldari dropships, and this applies to all rifles not just laser rifles. ....
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 Major Flux.
 
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        |  Regnier Feros
 Dead Man's Game
 Preatoriani
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:06:00 -
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 Shamarskii Simon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I believe you're thinking of caldari dropships, and this applies to all rifles not just laser rifles. .... ... .. . Major Flux.  Showed my friends that repeatedly, i got +10 bro points for doing it XD
 
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        |  No-one-ganks like-Gaston
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 765
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:07:00 -
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 Shamarskii Simon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I believe you're thinking of caldari dropships, and this applies to all rifles not just laser rifles. .... ... .. . Major Flux.  Holy ****, is that why my flux grenade destroyed a dropship a few months ago??? It was shield based???
 
 Oh my god, that sucks so bad for them.
 
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        |  Radiant Pancake3
 Celestial Phoenixes
 
 3
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:11:00 -
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 No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I believe you're thinking of caldari dropships, and this applies to all rifles not just laser rifles. .... ... .. . Major Flux.  Holy ****, is that why my flux grenade destroyed a dropship a few months ago??? It was shield based??? Oh my god, that sucks so bad for them. On Mini meat grinder (Drop entrance or Front door) I threw down a Major Flux to kill the enemys equipment for a Push
 -Gets Python Damage +75
 -Gets Python Destruction +50 (I think it is or maybe 75)
 -Gets Kill +50.
 
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        |  maybe deadcatz
 Serris Inc
 
 2
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:18:00 -
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 Reminds me of a match long ago with my blueberries vs the oh so mighty pubstomper himself saxonmish. That python did not like flux grenades. And judging by the mad scramble to gain height,saxy boy did not expect a myo minsentienl to jump up AT his ship with a ahmg.
 
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
 
 6
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:48:00 -
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 The long and the short of it is, if you don't have the actual skill to fly a python, don't fly a python.
 
 
 Incubus is far more user friendly and able to take hits. If you have a gunner, the Grimmy is amazing.
 
 But you can't expect a dropship like the python to get more DPS against infantry targets and have greater mobility without also being more vulnerable in return. That would be madness.
 
 
 Personally I'd say the python balance is fine as is. It just costs too damn much for the likelihood of it being shot down. Vehicles in general cost too much.
 
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        |  DUST Fiend
 
 17
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.03 19:57:00 -
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 Just get in your Minmatar Dropship instead.
 
 Oh wait.
 
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        |  Diablo Gamekeeper
 Anunnakii
 
 768
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 03:17:00 -
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 No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Wow, holy ****, so it just completely sucks for anything shield based. CCP really does love the armor meta.
 Do they... do they know about this...?
 Yea the Ratman talked about this change somewhere. I'm too lazy to find it
 
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        |  Diablo Gamekeeper
 Anunnakii
 
 768
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 03:18:00 -
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 Radiant Pancake3 wrote:No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Shamarskii Simon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I believe you're thinking of caldari dropships, and this applies to all rifles not just laser rifles. .... ... .. . Major Flux.  Holy ****, is that why my flux grenade destroyed a dropship a few months ago??? It was shield based??? Oh my god, that sucks so bad for them. On Mini meat grinder (Drop entrance or Front door) I threw down a Major Flux to kill the enemys equipment for a Push  -Gets Python Damage +75 -Gets Python Destruction +50 (I think it is or maybe 75) -Gets Kill +50. EMPS can destroy any vehicle and i think installation as well
 
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        |  Dreis ShadowWeaver
 Dead Man's Game
 Preatoriani
 
 8
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 04:23:00 -
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 To be fair, what were the chances of you surviving after your Python loses all its Shields anyway?
 
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        |  Yeeeuuuupppp
 RUST415
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 10:14:00 -
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 **** lasers, **** people who use lasers.
 
 That is all.
 
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        |  Sbundo'D
 Dead Meta Game
 
 177
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 10:34:00 -
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 Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The long and the short of it is, if you don't have the actual skill to fly a python, don't fly a python.
 
 Incubus is far more user friendly and able to take hits. If you have a gunner, the Grimmy is amazing.
 
 But you can't expect a dropship like the python to get more DPS against infantry targets and have greater mobility without also being more vulnerable in return. That would be madness.
 
 
 Personally I'd say the python balance is fine as is. It just costs too damn much for the likelihood of it being shot down. Vehicles in general cost too much.
 
 C'mon.. you can't be serious...
 
 I have taken out Pythons with a Flux and a few rounds of a Rail Rifle..
 Clearly balanced
  When you consider the lack of regen delay and impact OHK on Armour dropships  
 Does your back hurt ? having your head that far up there can't be doing it any favours.
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        |  Mortishai Belmont
 XxAMBUSH FTWxX
 Shadow of Dust
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 11:21:00 -
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 If it's caldari there is your answer, I've taken the tanks, dropships, and cars down with flaylock pistols a lot .3.
 
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        |  xavier zor II
 
 298
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 12:30:00 -
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 Regnier Feros wrote:Only works against shield based dropships hence why python's need a buff
 
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        |  Mobius Wyvern
 Fatal Absolution
 Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
 
 7
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 12:33:00 -
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 No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Mobility has to have a tradeoff somewhere. Being rocked by swarm launchers, plasma cannons, and forge guns, only to be killed off by the **** stream of a laser rifle isn't the tradeoff I was imagining one would have for the sake of 'mobility'. Indeed. A lower armor count making it easier to destroy is fine, but lacking the natural resistance that other vehicles have seems like a bug, not a feature. It didn't used to be that way.
 
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        |  No-one-ganks like-Gaston
 Corrosive Synergy
 RUST415
 
 771
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 14:20:00 -
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 Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:**** lasers, **** people who use lasers. 
 That is all.
 What exactly is wrong with lasers? They're great suppression tools.
 
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        |  Yeeeuuuupppp
 RUST415
 
 1
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 16:32:00 -
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 No-one-ganks like-Gaston wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:**** lasers, **** people who use lasers. 
 That is all.
 What exactly is wrong with lasers? They're great suppression tools. They hurt. A lot. Even to my galmando. Same with scrambler rifles. They melt armor too fast imo
 
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        |  Himiko Kuronaga
 Fatal Absolution
 Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
 
 6
 
 
      | Posted - 2016.01.04 21:58:00 -
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 Sbundo'D wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:The long and the short of it is, if you don't have the actual skill to fly a python, don't fly a python.
 
 Incubus is far more user friendly and able to take hits. If you have a gunner, the Grimmy is amazing.
 
 But you can't expect a dropship like the python to get more DPS against infantry targets and have greater mobility without also being more vulnerable in return. That would be madness.
 
 
 Personally I'd say the python balance is fine as is. It just costs too damn much for the likelihood of it being shot down. Vehicles in general cost too much.
 C'mon.. you can't be serious... I have taken out Pythons with a Flux and a few rounds of a Rail Rifle.. Clearly balanced    When you consider the lack of regen delay and impact OHK on Armour dropships   Does your back hurt ? having your head that far up there can't be doing it any favours. 
 
 Pre-teen insults will get you nowhere. Fact of the matter is ADS can be used as a second skin for slayers. After they get shot down, the pilot can simply hop out and continue his rampage. And prior to being shot down, they can do an incredible amount of damage to a team with virtually zero support.
 
 Before you start puffing your chest at being able to throw a flux at a shield based dropship, perhaps you should be considering why they were stupid enough to fly that low in the first place and if they shouldn't be punished for such reckless behavior? If they were within throw range, maybe they deserve to be shot down.
 
 
 Are they shot down too easily? Yes, but only if ISK is the balancing factor. Otherwise they are perfect.
 
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