DUST Search - IQ or age of some players....

Alena Asakura wrote:

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Soto Gallente wrote:

jane stalin wrote:

Joel II X wrote:

And the opposition did nothing to take them out? For shame. When snipers do that, they're actually easier to spot since their field is limited.

Most of the reds took a good position to shoot at people near the objective, they just wanted kills

Hence the average IQ of most redberries.

I've wondered about the IQ of most Dust players. Or perhaps their age...

Does anyone else find the practice of "finishing off" a clone to be pointless and stupid?

We have a practice in EvE called "podding", where a second kill is made, first of the ship, then of the capsule (pod) itself, forcing the pilot back to his medical clone. In ProviBloc, we actually don't do this. It has become expected so that in fleet fights, the opponents just come back into battle as soon as they can hop into another ship and warp/jump back in. But if you don't pod them, they sit there, waiting (they can't move because they're warp scrambled). And waiting. And waiting. Eventually, they get the message - they're not gonna get podded, and they'll have to self-destruct. That effectively takes them out of the action until they figure out they need to do something.

In Dust we have something similar. Granted each side has limited clones, which is not the case in EvE but effectively, people in EvE are not going to just come back an unlimited number of times, because they will have limited numbers of ships. So, with Dust, we have the situation where a clone is "incapacitated" for a period of time when they just sit there calling for help, if there's any available, and then when that time is up, they respawn into another clone.

For the entirety of the time it takes for the clone to be resurrected or for it to expire, whichever comes first, that player is out of the battle. That means their side is down a player. If their clone is terminated, they get straight back in just as soon as they can respawn which is usually a lot quicker than waiting for assistance.

Players who finish off an opponent aren't gaining anything from the second "kill" - there's no increase in their score. All they are doing is sending that player back into battle ASAP. Perhaps that means to them that they will get more kills? Anyway, I've developed a distaste for such players, and consider them mental midgets. It's the sort of practice that reminds me of kids habitually doing something because everyone does.

I've also noticed that there are some players (me included) who habitually do NOT do this. Even though it delays my getting back into battle, if I choose to call for help, I'm actually kinda glad to find a player for whom this practice is not an automatic thing. It takes some players quite a lot of time and resources (ammo) to finish off another player. I sometimes wonder at the marksmanship of a player that can't hit a body lying still on the ground, or players that lob multiple grenades at you when a single shot would do.

All in all, I find the practice idiotic. I would love to hear any arguments from anyone that can see a purpose to this that actually makes sense in a battle-scenario manner.


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ANON Cerberus TerranProtossZerg 980	Posted - 2015.12.24 11:57:00 - [1] - Quote Alena Asakura wrote: Moved from another thread: Soto Gallente wrote: jane stalin wrote: Joel II X wrote: And the opposition did nothing to take them out? For shame. When snipers do that, they're actually easier to spot since their field is limited. Most of the reds took a good position to shoot at people near the objective, they just wanted kills Hence the average IQ of most redberries. I've wondered about the IQ of most Dust players. Or perhaps their age... Does anyone else find the practice of "finishing off" a clone to be pointless and stupid? We have a practice in EvE called "podding", where a second kill is made, first of the ship, then of the capsule (pod) itself, forcing the pilot back to his medical clone. In ProviBloc, we actually don't do this. It has become expected so that in fleet fights, the opponents just come back into battle as soon as they can hop into another ship and warp/jump back in. But if you don't pod them, they sit there, waiting (they can't move because they're warp scrambled). And waiting. And waiting. Eventually, they get the message - they're not gonna get podded, and they'll have to self-destruct. That effectively takes them out of the action until they figure out they need to do something. In Dust we have something similar. Granted each side has limited clones, which is not the case in EvE but effectively, people in EvE are not going to just come back an unlimited number of times, because they will have limited numbers of ships. So, with Dust, we have the situation where a clone is "incapacitated" for a period of time when they just sit there calling for help, if there's any available, and then when that time is up, they respawn into another clone. For the entirety of the time it takes for the clone to be resurrected or for it to expire, whichever comes first, that player is out of the battle. That means their side is down a player. If their clone is terminated, they get straight back in just as soon as they can respawn which is usually a lot quicker than waiting for assistance. Players who finish off an opponent aren't gaining anything from the second "kill" - there's no increase in their score. All they are doing is sending that player back into battle ASAP. Perhaps that means to them that they will get more kills? Anyway, I've developed a distaste for such players, and consider them mental midgets. It's the sort of practice that reminds me of kids habitually doing something because everyone does. I've also noticed that there are some players (me included) who habitually do NOT do this. Even though it delays my getting back into battle, if I choose to call for help, I'm actually kinda glad to find a player for whom this practice is not an automatic thing. It takes some players quite a lot of time and resources (ammo) to finish off another player. I sometimes wonder at the marksmanship of a player that can't hit a body lying still on the ground, or players that lob multiple grenades at you when a single shot would do. All in all, I find the practice idiotic. I would love to hear any arguments from anyone that can see a purpose to this that actually makes sense in a battle-scenario manner. Now try running solo, killing off a few dudes with sweet fits or officer weapons only to forget to destroy their clone and a logi comes out of nowhere and revives all of them. It puts your hard work to waste in seconds. No if I can I will always destroy the clone because [1] I want them to lose that equipment and resource [2] I don't want them being revived in that exact spot with the knowledge they have attained of my position. In EVE the systems of combat and podding are totally different. For one that "pod" most likely has implants so why would you not want to destroy those implants? (Yes anyone with a brain will only run what they can afford to lose, or they are happy to risk big time implants). Secondly the time between respawning in dust and reshipping in EVE can be monstrously different. Then you have to factor in travel times in EVE online and you do not have to do this for DUST.