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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.12.20 22:24:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Struggles of the illiterate.
Reserved.
Edit.
First off. If its a caldari tank then yeah. Av tears it apart.
Madrugars, totally different story.
Retreating is a valid tactic seeing a fully fit proto tanks cost more than one million isk,so why take chances?
Lia dai av grenades still need to be thrown correctly because of smaller seek range.
Swarms were also nerfed recently. Shorter lock on range and something about the missile guidance.
Forge guns are meant to be used versus tanks.
And there is such a thing as a weak spot.
And as far as I can glean from your babble,you can't avoid the swarms,av grenades and forge guns,and you want them nerfed.
And continuing even more. It seems like you are just being double teamed. Its called pick your engagements.
Put more skill points into tanks and ask for tips in the locker room part of the forums. What the hell planet are you living on. The Caldari HAV is almost invulnerable to all forms of AV excepting the Plasma Cannon and makes for the best Heavy Support or Anti Infantry Tank due to sheer resistance power against kinetic and explosive AV forms which of course are by far the most common. Might not be as great in Tank vs Tank due to the Madrugar's broken heavy repair modules but damn if a dual hardened Gunlogi with a pair of gunners won't **** on literally everything in the game. It's just as powerful as it was last build for exactly the same reasons as it was supposedly nerfed having a potentially enormous raw HP of 6000, and EHP or something like 8-9K, a natural 10-20% resistances to the most common AV forms plus its hardeners..... and the best thing about it is the passive repair of something like 120 shield without having to fit a single module.
Thing is,I packed a plasma cannon for every battle. And nothing says f*ck you gunny,than a kubos plc and some flux nades.(yes I actually used proto flux grenades)
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Enlightened Cola
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2015.12.20 22:52:00 -
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lol, tanks, like everything else, is subjected to team-based mechanics, and is balanced through it. There's no confusion on anyones end but you, the GD plebs, who define all tanks into one category.
The thing is, if your running solo, you should get owned. Tanks, ADS, heavies, assaults - all should rely on team work to make advances.
Logi's even more so, but you'll likely find someones back to hug.
And scouts are scouts, they're meant to be all over the place.
But your tank is a friggin' huge object on the field that looks pretty when I blow it up. If you aren't in a squad coordinating, you have no right to make these types of threads. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
21
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Posted - 2015.12.20 23:34:00 -
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maybe deadcatz wrote:True Adamance wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Struggles of the illiterate.
Reserved.
Edit.
First off. If its a caldari tank then yeah. Av tears it apart.
Madrugars, totally different story.
Retreating is a valid tactic seeing a fully fit proto tanks cost more than one million isk,so why take chances?
Lia dai av grenades still need to be thrown correctly because of smaller seek range.
Swarms were also nerfed recently. Shorter lock on range and something about the missile guidance.
Forge guns are meant to be used versus tanks.
And there is such a thing as a weak spot.
And as far as I can glean from your babble,you can't avoid the swarms,av grenades and forge guns,and you want them nerfed.
And continuing even more. It seems like you are just being double teamed. Its called pick your engagements.
Put more skill points into tanks and ask for tips in the locker room part of the forums. What the hell planet are you living on. The Caldari HAV is almost invulnerable to all forms of AV excepting the Plasma Cannon and makes for the best Heavy Support or Anti Infantry Tank due to sheer resistance power against kinetic and explosive AV forms which of course are by far the most common. Might not be as great in Tank vs Tank due to the Madrugar's broken heavy repair modules but damn if a dual hardened Gunlogi with a pair of gunners won't **** on literally everything in the game. It's just as powerful as it was last build for exactly the same reasons as it was supposedly nerfed having a potentially enormous raw HP of 6000, and EHP or something like 8-9K, a natural 10-20% resistances to the most common AV forms plus its hardeners..... and the best thing about it is the passive repair of something like 120 shield without having to fit a single module. Thing is,I packed a plasma cannon for every battle. And nothing says f*ck you gunny,than a kubos plc and some flux nades.(yes I actually used proto flux grenades)
A Kubo's is about the only threat to my 6000 Shield Tank anything else and you have time to move right back from the fight, get some range, and move around plasma cannon shot.
Anything else you just absorb and passively regen through.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
House of Blue Leaves
1
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Posted - 2015.12.21 02:48:00 -
[34] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:True Adamance wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Struggles of the illiterate.
Reserved.
Edit.
First off. If its a caldari tank then yeah. Av tears it apart.
Madrugars, totally different story.
Retreating is a valid tactic seeing a fully fit proto tanks cost more than one million isk,so why take chances?
Lia dai av grenades still need to be thrown correctly because of smaller seek range.
Swarms were also nerfed recently. Shorter lock on range and something about the missile guidance.
Forge guns are meant to be used versus tanks.
And there is such a thing as a weak spot.
And as far as I can glean from your babble,you can't avoid the swarms,av grenades and forge guns,and you want them nerfed.
And continuing even more. It seems like you are just being double teamed. Its called pick your engagements.
Put more skill points into tanks and ask for tips in the locker room part of the forums. What the hell planet are you living on. The Caldari HAV is almost invulnerable to all forms of AV excepting the Plasma Cannon and makes for the best Heavy Support or Anti Infantry Tank due to sheer resistance power against kinetic and explosive AV forms which of course are by far the most common. Might not be as great in Tank vs Tank due to the Madrugar's broken heavy repair modules but damn if a dual hardened Gunlogi with a pair of gunners won't **** on literally everything in the game. It's just as powerful as it was last build for exactly the same reasons as it was supposedly nerfed having a potentially enormous raw HP of 6000, and EHP or something like 8-9K, a natural 10-20% resistances to the most common AV forms plus its hardeners..... and the best thing about it is the passive repair of something like 120 shield without having to fit a single module. Thing is,I packed a plasma cannon for every battle. And nothing says f*ck you gunny,than a kubos plc and some flux nades.(yes I actually used proto flux grenades) A Kubo's is about the only threat to my 6000 Shield Tank anything else and you have time to move right back from the fight, get some range, and move around plasma cannon shot. Anything else you just absorb and passively regen through.
Ya til the heat sinked dmg modded double hardened rail maddy turns the corner and obliterates the 6k shield 2 hardener gunny because without a heat sinked rail it loses hard to super common maddy rail fit, even proto missles with lvl 5 reload speed on the gunny can't help, especially with how glitchy they are.
Corps: P.R.O.---O.H.---Not Guilty/Pure Innocence---Nyain San---T.o.P.
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
947
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Posted - 2015.12.21 03:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:CLONE117 wrote:
damn right i miss 1.7 tanks.
i didnt run those hardener fits though. i ran a 512.5 hps triple reps maddy as it was more fun. and a glass cannon gunny and sica at times when other people started spamming them.
there were a lot more viable tank fits in 1.7.
which meant even the newberries could hop in and actually help the team rather than pad some1 elses kdr.
though due to the rep speed my tank fit could be considered almost immune to most solo av.
which was just some guy throwing a few av nades at me. or a lone swarm launcher.
2 forgers and you could kiss my tank good bye though.
it could stand up to par with a lot of other fits as well. as i faced a proto hardened blaster maddy during that time period as well.
and ill say that was the longest tank brawl in dust history.
it only ended when the other guy screwed up with modules or had a bug of some sort and started running for the hills as i pursued and finally killed him.
id say that was the only time my tank did run out of ammo. course i also had a terrain advantage and could back up to hide from his turret which melted my armor down to about 500 hp left before he over heated or had to stop to cool down.
though it was hard countered by missile tanks. or orbitals. or 2 persistent dedicated av players. which almost no1 bothered to pull out during that time period. through my experience.
Blegh.... a Rep-Tanked HAV based off of passive modules that requires no acitvation or skill to employ. 1.7 was the end of enjoyable vehicles.
there was never any skill involved in active modules either.
only stupidly annoying bugs..
what involves skill is how you use your fit.
great potential is always there..
it just has yet to be realized
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vybz kartel4
Nyain Exile.
10
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Posted - 2015.12.21 04:22:00 -
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The only officer I run is av, why because I hate tanks lavs dropship anything that is not legs on the battlefield I hate it I don't understand why you guys say Av is op that's flat out bs I run Gaston free 90% of the time I see a tank and they just rip me apart usually the ion cannon and if they don't kill me infantry does also I barely ever see any use Av in this game and I play a lot they usually just hide when the tank appear or hit it enough for it to hide now I see tanks running around with harder hers shaking off Av like it's nothing your probably just **** just being honest or 1 of those guys using mlt tanks thinking you will be godly |
CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
227
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Posted - 2015.12.21 04:28:00 -
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My shield tank is insanely op. It is cheap, and beats all but the best anti-tank tanks, (or officer plc) i survoved for 30 seconds being swarmed by 2 people for the entirety of that time. Tanks are nearly invincible when piloted correctly. You are immune to nearly all weapons, don't have to worry about small battlfueld hazzards like remotes on objectives, snipers on rooftops, and someone constantly shooting at you from 100m with rails and such. It is near impossible to die to 1 person when you know they are there. Hell, I had a tank take 13 rounds from a kubos plc with max skills on a commando while being shot by someone else. Tanks are full of problems, but being too weak isn't one of them. Not when you cam simply retreat when your hardeners run low. Vehicles in general need an overhaul so that an engagement is fun for the pilot and the av user. Not either party feeling helpless, or overpowered.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
9
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Posted - 2015.12.21 05:11:00 -
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It takes roughly 3-4 players with proto AV to finish off 1 tank with hardeners.
/thread
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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CeeJ Mantis
Mantodea MC
227
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Posted - 2015.12.21 05:15:00 -
[39] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:maybe deadcatz wrote:Struggles of the illiterate.
Reserved.
Edit.
First off. If its a caldari tank then yeah. Av tears it apart.
Madrugars, totally different story.
Retreating is a valid tactic seeing a fully fit proto tanks cost more than one million isk,so why take chances?
Lia dai av grenades still need to be thrown correctly because of smaller seek range.
Swarms were also nerfed recently. Shorter lock on range and something about the missile guidance.
Forge guns are meant to be used versus tanks.
And there is such a thing as a weak spot.
And as far as I can glean from your babble,you can't avoid the swarms,av grenades and forge guns,and you want them nerfed.
And continuing even more. It seems like you are just being double teamed. Its called pick your engagements.
Put more skill points into tanks and ask for tips in the locker room part of the forums. What the hell planet are you living on. The Caldari HAV is almost invulnerable to all forms of AV excepting the Plasma Cannon and makes for the best Heavy Support or Anti Infantry Tank due to sheer resistance power against kinetic and explosive AV forms which of course are by far the most common. Might not be as great in Tank vs Tank due to the Madrugar's broken heavy repair modules but damn if a dual hardened Gunlogi with a pair of gunners won't **** on literally everything in the game. It's just as powerful as it was last build for exactly the same reasons as it was supposedly nerfed having a potentially enormous raw HP of 6000, and EHP or something like 8-9K, a natural 10-20% resistances to the most common AV forms plus its hardeners..... and the best thing about it is the passive repair of something like 120 shield without having to fit a single module.
220 now.
Longest plasma cannon kill: 236.45m
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Raven-747
Corrosive Synergy
RUST415
285
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Posted - 2015.12.21 05:59:00 -
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150m lock on range for swarms, you need to risk getting close to tank for lai dai at the same time avoiding redberry fire, FGs are a joke unless officer. If your complaining about av keeping all of this in mind then you must really suck hard. Here let me tell you why AV feels so strong because AV focused mercs such as me use maxed out stuff ALL the time. Why you ask? Because that one gv.0 is wrecking blueberries hard. Most of the AV guys you face are using maxed out gear because anything lower than that won't work. Deal with it or quit.
When you headshot a frontline with proto
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