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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2015.12.19 02:49:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Dead Cavino wrote:My problem with them is CQC. When they jump over my head and I can't track them cause they travel faster than my vertical sensitivity allows me track(sensitivity is at 100). They're essentially kiting me in the air... Very frustrating. Or maybe I'm just a noob. IDK. So, this right here proves what I keep trying to explain. The problem IS NOT the jump itself. It is the really lame sensitivity on the controller. Increase max sensitivity to twice of its current and win, win, win. No, it couldn't be the fact that a jump boost was put into a game who's CQC wasn't built around having a jump boost! I must've been blind all along!
'This right here' proves that you are grasping at straws to not nerf jumps by trying to instead of fixing a broken mechanic, attempt to change other things to minutely compensate. The module makes it easy to cqc for a jumper and your response is to increase the skill cap so those who do have the lightning fast reflexes to follow a rocket shooting up right in front of their faces can do so and 'make up for it'?
Ha. Hahahuhoohuhuhuhuh! AHAHAHAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAH!
Edit: And lots and lots of these;
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2015.12.19 16:29:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:I gave a solution. Take it or leave it. I could care less, Ball Boy.
I never found it a problem shooting someone out of the sky. Actually highly entertaining for me. Personally I have been shot out of the sky on so many occasions dozens upon dozens of times by every type of rifle. In fact just yesterday I got railed out of the sky just 20m away from the tank that shot me.
I see the most complaints about "OMG they jumped up when they were in my face! I can't react, look up and fire!" I say, "Just be lucky they didn't throw a punch and knocked you flat on your ass.
Solution: increase the max sensitivity to turn off the tear ducts.
Choke on as many lolololicox as you want Ball Boy... it just shows you can't provide a legit argument. Sad, really. You've yet to provide a legitimate stance with which do argue, otherwise I'd be more than happy to provide one. So far your stance is nonsensical. You are saying:
1. 'My modules that give me an advantage in CQC fights (in a game where the CQC was not built to deal with my modules) are not broken because..... someone should crank up the sensitivity so that an infinitesimally small minority of people capable of following a target moving that in the middle of a firefight that's moving side to side suddenly flies fast straight up and over their heads can do so'.
2. 'I don't have a problem with it, I can usually deal with jumpers, so it's not broken'
And 3. 'Be glad people using jump mods aren't killing you another way that doesn't involve them disappearing from your field of view so you can't shoot at them.'
These are not legitimate arguments, these are laughable failures at trying to convince other people that you are correct. Now thatis sad.
On to the rest of what you said. Now.... if I were concerned about my public image, I wouldn't have the word 'scrub' slapped under my name over there to the left. Your entire response is nothing more than an ad hominem response. Ooh, there's a good word for you to learn today:
ad hominem ad -êh+Æm+¬n+¢m/ adverb & adjective adverb: ad hominem; adjective: ad hominem
1. (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. "an ad hominem response"
Look at that, the definition spit out by google even has the word's 'an ad hominem response' right there as an example. Meaning since you have no meanful method of attacking what I said or properly defending what you said, you've opted for personal attacks and that doesn't really prove anything other than your lack of imagination in name calling.
So let me know when you've come up with a couple of legs to stand on in this discussion, But do know it's very sad watching you try so hard attempting to defend such a completely untenable position. Amusing all the same though.
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2015.12.19 19:41:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Oh Ball Boy.. how could you say that. Now let me crumble your rationale because you deserve at least a half knowledgeable response.
First and foremost, my response couldn't be an ad hominem. Seeing as it wasn't DIRECTED at insulting you. My response gave you clear anecdotes to why I don't see jumping as the MAIN problem. Rather the inability for those ( or lack of allowed capability ) to respond in a timely manner.
Just because I called you Ball Boy and told you to choke on some more lolicox doesn't illegitimate any of my talking points... despite how much you scream "ad hominem! AD HOMINEM!"
The whole community knows the sensitivity BLOWS in this game. Especially when compared to ANY other shooter worth mentioning.
Ironically, IF you were to really think about it. Your pathetic attempt at trying to show that my response was DIRECTED at insulting you, turned your OWN response into an ad hominem response.
Should I spam a thousand lololols here? Or should I show I am a better man by not choking on a lololicox You... still don't get it do you?
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Your entire platform is based on, by your own admission, anecdotal evidence instead of sound argument or compelling evidence. Where is your sound reasoning that brought you to the conclusion that higher sensitivity would fix everything? Is there any evidence that is closely relevant to Dust that would show this? You've yet to even make a proper case for yourself, let alone a compelling one. Instead you continue to chant 'I've got the answer' when you've said nothing that would suggest such.
You are trying to maintain a position where you change something that has little to no effect on the issue at hand, making your platform nearly nonexistant. I cannot argue against something pertaining to the issue at hand properly when it makes no sense to begin with. Well... not more than to say 'you're wrong, go peddle your uselessness elsewhere'. For example, let's say you increased the sensitivity of the controls 500%. You would still likely have well over 95% of the playerbase who never took it beyond 200% of what it is now and likely more than 85% of them couldn't handle sensitivity beyond what it is now. A large percentage of players cannot handle the current speeds at 100%, let alone with it up however much it would take to properly track someone flying over their heads in a firefight
BUT. Let's say we did do what you suggest and increase the sensitivity to 200%. And let's say, for the sake of argument, that 50% of the playerbase were able to aim pinpoint accurate at these speeds and were capable of doing what you say they would be able to do. Best possible case scenario that'll never happen, but let's just say that 50% of everyone suddenly got gungame and better mastery of the Ds3 and were capable of it. This would only fix the issue for 50% of the playerbase. A half fix is not a fix, it is a cop out claiming to be a fix. Balance is not achieved when something is still broken for half of the playerbase.
However, since this wouldn't even be CLOSE to a half fix it's not even worth being considered a fix at all let alone a solution. This game's mechanics are not based around jump mods. Whether or not higher turn speeds would be good for the game overall is hard to say, but from the anti-twitch shooter attitude contained in the majority of posts about it I've read, I'd say the consenus would probably be 'no'.
Now I have stated what you call an A-R-G-U-M-E-N-T, which is required so you to have something to attack when debating someone, feel free to give up your cringeworthy attempts at getting under my skin. They are painfully pathetic to watch and the only thing it's doing is make me embarrassed for you.
So far you've pushed your ideas with annecdotal evidence and you've pushed the envelope for how bad one person can be at name calling. (Which is, if you didn't know, called a *personal attack* and encompassed under the definition of an ad hominem attack when two people are on opposite sides of a debate) You might want to read up on logical fallacies, they can be facinating. The purpose of an ad hominem is typically to distract from an argument's failure to contain any sound reasoning or compelling evidence. Hmm, seems like someone I've spoke to recently had an argument with only annecdotal evidence who was calling names and making derisive comments.... now who could that be....
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Baal Omniscient
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Posted - 2015.12.20 14:40:00 -
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ROMULUS H3X wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote: You... still don't get it do you?
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Your entire platform is based on, by your own admission, anecdotal evidence instead of sound argument or compelling evidence. Where is your sound reasoning that brought you to the conclusion that higher sensitivity would fix everything? Is there any evidence that is closely relevant to Dust that would show this? You've yet to even make a proper case for yourself, let alone a compelling one. Instead you continue to chant 'I've got the answer' when you've said nothing that would suggest such.
You are trying to maintain a position where you change something that has little to no effect on the issue at hand, making your platform nearly nonexistant. I cannot argue against something pertaining to the issue at hand properly when it makes no sense to begin with. Well... not more than to say 'you're wrong, go peddle your uselessness elsewhere'. For example, let's say you increased the sensitivity of the controls 500%. You would still likely have well over 95% of the playerbase who never took it beyond 200% of what it is now and likely more than 85% of them couldn't handle sensitivity beyond what it is now. A large percentage of players cannot handle the current speeds at 100%, let alone with it up however much it would take to properly track someone flying over their heads in a firefight
BUT. Let's say we did do what you suggest and increase the sensitivity to 200%. And let's say, for the sake of argument, that 50% of the playerbase were able to aim pinpoint accurate at these speeds and were capable of doing what you say they would be able to do. Best possible case scenario that'll never happen, but let's just say that 50% of everyone suddenly got gungame and better mastery of the Ds3 and were capable of it. This would only fix the issue for 50% of the playerbase. A half fix is not a fix, it is a cop out claiming to be a fix. Balance is not achieved when something is still broken for half of the playerbase.
However, since this wouldn't even be CLOSE to a half fix it's not even worth being considered a fix at all let alone a solution. This game's mechanics are not based around jump mods. Whether or not higher turn speeds would be good for the game overall is hard to say, but from the anti-twitch shooter attitude contained in the majority of posts about it I've read, I'd say the consenus would probably be 'no'.
Now I have stated what you call an A-R-G-U-M-E-N-T, which is required so you to have something to attack when debating someone, feel free to give up your cringeworthy attempts at getting under my skin. They are painfully pathetic to watch and the only thing it's doing is make me embarrassed for you.
So far you've pushed your ideas with annecdotal evidence and you've pushed the envelope for how bad one person can be at name calling. (Which is, if you didn't know, called a *personal attack* and encompassed under the definition of an ad hominem attack when two people are on opposite sides of a debate) You might want to read up on logical fallacies, they can be facinating. The purpose of an ad hominem is typically to distract from an argument's failure to contain any sound reasoning or compelling evidence. Hmm, seems like someone I've spoke to recently had an argument with only annecdotal evidence who was calling names and making derisive comments.... now who could that be....
Look, I am sorry your feelings got hurt from the side-note name calling, but.... You do realize you started out by being **** and laughing at my idea. Then you go and say my idea is at least 50% of the fix while trying to discredit it by saying a half fix is not a fix at all....? What? At least I am coming up with solutions. All you seem to try and do is discredit other people's solutions, rather than presenting ANY of your own. Now, of course you can either choose now to be a productive member of this community and give a solution OR you can continue down your path of being a counterproductive dweeb. Still not working, but if you really are that facinated with me I suppose I don't mind if you keep it up. If I find you digging through my dumpster however I'll be calling the police.
I've offered my solutions and the mass outpouring of tears from jump mod enthusiasts have overwhelmed those of the detractors.
And yes, I laughed at your idea because it's completely ridiculous and you don't see it. At first it was hilarious that it goes completely over your head, now it's just pittiable. I mean really, you thought I was saying it's a half fix? If you had actually paid attention, I said this is no where near even a half fix but gave an example completely skewed in your favor where it would be a half fix in order to point out that a half fix is no fix at all. It's like there's some kind of mental block there keeping you from comprehending what I wrote.
If you're incapable of understanding the most rudimentary of thought experiments then I'm going to have to officially declare you not worth my time on any topic of importance. You can take that however you like, but I'm not having this conversation with someone either who's best means of refuting an argument is to mischaracterize it or who's reading comprehension ability is to low to properly carry on the conversation properly. Whichever is the case, there are SOOO many more enjoyable means of spending my time than try to convince an air head that he's got empty ideas.
Ta-ta, don't trip on your letter blocks.
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