Every single match, my team gets stomped. There are players on the other team that I recognise used to play Caldari, are now playing Gallente and are often in Caldari State Peacekeeper gear, as I've noted in the past. As well as that, the other team always has well organised squads while mine is usually a disorganised rabble of solos. Except for just 3 matches today, which my team won, two of which I was a replacement in a match that was more than half over. Every single one of those 3 matches my side had squads, well organised, fighting a "team" of disorganised Gallene reds that were as ineffectual as my team usually is.

I started seeing a pattern. I wondered if this was the CFW version of the same sort of unbalanced matches that happen in pubs. I have a Gallente alt I don't use much and thought I might test out this interesting phenomenon. I logged out and back in again, selected the Gallente alt, switched my preference to GFW, and went into a new match. I could already see before we deployed there were no squads in my team. And just as you could expect, we lost. We were stomped resoundingly by the Caldari team. Each time I played, we lost to a well organised Caldari team while we were a disorganised rabble.

So clearly, I'm a jinx, right? :) Any team I deploy with is ineffectual. Perhaps the reason is that I am a solo, as are all the others in my team. So why is the other team always well organised, with squads that effectively take and hold objectives and seemingly easily redline my team? Clearly the aim of matchmaking is, where possible, have one team which is all squads plus a few filler solos, against the other team which is all solos, no squads. Why code the matchmaking in this way? This gives the worst possible imbalance for our matches, but greatly rewards squads that prefer to stomp.

I didn't play enough GFW matches to get one that we won, but I'm pretty confident that had I done so, there would have been just as much of an imbalance but in the opposite direction. Clearly the remedy for this is to always squad. Since I mainly scout, there would be no benefit to the squad in having me there, but I'll at least get matches that are unbalanced in favour of my team! :)

Now to go looking for squads that need a scout for CFW... :)

Not too long ago it was CFW that dominated, so I guess it goes in cycles.

Sweet sweet Caldari tears.

Nope, I'm playing GFW right now, on my Gallente alt, squadded up to make sure I don't get stomped. When I go back to CFW on this character, I'll be squadding up then too.

If you're squadded you stomp. Simple. Doesn't matter which side you're on. The matches are always in favour of the side with the squads.

Every single match, my team gets stomped. There are players on the other team that I recognise used to play Caldari, are now playing Gallente and are often in Caldari State Peacekeeper gear, as I've noted in the past. As well as that, the other team always has well organised squads while mine is usually a disorganised rabble of solos. Except for just 3 matches today, which my team won, two of which I was a replacement in a match that was more than half over. Every single one of those 3 matches my side had squads, well organised, fighting a "team" of disorganised Gallene reds that were as ineffectual as my team usually is.

I started seeing a pattern. I wondered if this was the CFW version of the same sort of unbalanced matches that happen in pubs. I have a Gallente alt I don't use much and thought I might test out this interesting phenomenon. I logged out and back in again, selected the Gallente alt, switched my preference to GFW, and went into a new match. I could already see before we deployed there were no squads in my team. And just as you could expect, we lost. We were stomped resoundingly by the Caldari team. Each time I played, we lost to a well organised Caldari team while we were a disorganised rabble.

So clearly, I'm a jinx, right? :) Any team I deploy with is ineffectual. Perhaps the reason is that I am a solo, as are all the others in my team. So why is the other team always well organised, with squads that effectively take and hold objectives and seemingly easily redline my team? Clearly the aim of matchmaking is, where possible, have one team which is all squads plus a few filler solos, against the other team which is all solos, no squads. Why code the matchmaking in this way? This gives the worst possible imbalance for our matches, but greatly rewards squads that prefer to stomp.

I didn't play enough GFW matches to get one that we won, but I'm pretty confident that had I done so, there would have been just as much of an imbalance but in the opposite direction. Clearly the remedy for this is to always squad. Since I mainly scout, there would be no benefit to the squad in having me there, but I'll at least get matches that are unbalanced in favour of my team! :)

Now to go looking for squads that need a scout for CFW... :)

Nope, I'm playing GFW right now, on my Gallente alt, squadded up to make sure I don't get stomped. When I go back to CFW on this character, I'll be squadding up then too.

If you're squadded you stomp. Simple. Doesn't matter which side you're on. The matches are always in favour of the side with the squads.

So we are trying this again? I am beginning to expect your regularly "the problem with CFW" bi weekly thread topic now.

Simple mathematics.

A 16 man team (which we have in Dust),

Can consist of 8+8 which makes the best organised team, two full squads of eight.
This is optimal. Most likely the best organised FW team there can be.



It can NOT be 8+8+1 (you). That would be 17.

Mind. Blown.



Therefore, unless for some reason there are FW squads which are not full, solos tend to be gathered in the same match. In best scenario, they do have a squad of 8 with them. Maybe the rest eight are solos again.

Every single match, my team gets stomped. There are players on the other team that I recognise used to play Caldari, are now playing Gallente and are often in Caldari State Peacekeeper gear, as I've noted in the past. As well as that, the other team always has well organised squads while mine is usually a disorganised rabble of solos. Except for just 3 matches today, which my team won, two of which I was a replacement in a match that was more than half over. Every single one of those 3 matches my side had squads, well organised, fighting a "team" of disorganised Gallene reds that were as ineffectual as my team usually is.

I started seeing a pattern. I wondered if this was the CFW version of the same sort of unbalanced matches that happen in pubs. I have a Gallente alt I don't use much and thought I might test out this interesting phenomenon. I logged out and back in again, selected the Gallente alt, switched my preference to GFW, and went into a new match. I could already see before we deployed there were no squads in my team. And just as you could expect, we lost. We were stomped resoundingly by the Caldari team. Each time I played, we lost to a well organised Caldari team while we were a disorganised rabble.

So clearly, I'm a jinx, right? :) Any team I deploy with is ineffectual. Perhaps the reason is that I am a solo, as are all the others in my team. So why is the other team always well organised, with squads that effectively take and hold objectives and seemingly easily redline my team? Clearly the aim of matchmaking is, where possible, have one team which is all squads plus a few filler solos, against the other team which is all solos, no squads. Why code the matchmaking in this way? This gives the worst possible imbalance for our matches, but greatly rewards squads that prefer to stomp.

I didn't play enough GFW matches to get one that we won, but I'm pretty confident that had I done so, there would have been just as much of an imbalance but in the opposite direction. Clearly the remedy for this is to always squad. Since I mainly scout, there would be no benefit to the squad in having me there, but I'll at least get matches that are unbalanced in favour of my team! :)

Now to go looking for squads that need a scout for CFW... :)

Every time I saw you in FW, you were sniping with an APEX Calmmando.

Get yourself a scout with Uplinks. If nothing else, you can at least capture a single point with enough back up to last you 6 whole seconds.

Do you also have a min alt for playing min fw?

You role players are just weird...

Every time I saw you in FW, you were sniping with an APEX Calmmando.

Get yourself a scout with Uplinks. If nothing else, you can at least capture a single point with enough back up to last you 6 whole seconds.

It's the last update man.....gal assault got an OP buff (ROF bonus to ARs). So, people are playing gfw because they are using gal assault

Blame FOTM chasers.

y dont u form a organized sq n stomp bac?? cuz u cant....hahahahahahaha....

I bet if notable squaded corps went and other squaded corps that one or the other would leave the match as WINNING gets all the REWARDS ,ALL SALVAGE,LARGE LP GAIN.
70 Wins is enough LP to get a APEX suit (lsk,LP,Salvage)
400 loses will get you a apex.little isk ,little LP,NO SALVAGE
Better to leave and get a win as one win equals 5 losses.
There is no reward to stay and fight a losing battle.

Tiger Scout

I've noticed something similar and sometimes I wonder about Scottie's maths.

It's like,

Team A 4+4+8 done

Team B 4+1+1+8+....... Wait a minute I'll try that again, 1+1+4+2+4+....... Nope, 1+1+3+2+1+1+..... Hang on I'll get this in a sec 1+1+4+8+...... OH SCREW IT 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 done. Have fun morons.