DUST Search - Let's discuss a major issue inherent in PC involvement in Dust 5...

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

While I do think cheating could be a problem with PC, there are plenty of good reasons to port to PC before the PS4.

First, is that with Sony, there are limitations to the updates, how and when they are implemented. For this reason, if Legion/DustPort is on PC, they can address and fix bugs and glitches more quickly, and if something doesn't work quite right with the fix, they can adjust it, and will know to do the same for the PS4. This speeds up the feedback loops, and means that PS4 problems can be fixed more quickly with fewer negative consequences.

Second, with Sony, there are no test servers, so players can't test out changes beforehand. This leads to many of the problems we have experienced, like super rocket tanks, rifles with RPMs in multiples of what is intended etc. On PC, CCP would be able to have test servers (I assume, I could be wrong), and many of these issues would be obvious and be fixed before the update ever comes out, so we see fewer problems. Even if they can't fix it, they may decide not to release an update that would have more negatives than positives. Either way, it works out for the PS4 players.

Perhaps I am wrong, and my limited knowledge of game development has led me to inaccurate to conclusions, but based upon what I know, or at least think I know, a port to the PC prior to a PS4 port would be ideal. Even if there is cheating on the PC, most PC gamers are used to cheaters, and with EVE on the PC, many would still prefer to play on PC even with the cheating. I think PS3 to PC to PS4 would bring in the largest number of players, with the greatest amount of benefit to both CCP and EVE and Dust supporters.

All reasons are moot in front of the issue of easy hacking.


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One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.12.11 21:33:00 - [1] - Quote I like the systems that do things like making ammo and damage next to nothing, so you see people not realizing and hoping online to complain about it. Its hilarious to see the cheaters out themselves. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.12.11 22:05:00 - [2] - Quote While I do think cheating could be a problem with PC, there are plenty of good reasons to port to PC before the PS4. First, is that with Sony, there are limitations to the updates, how and when they are implemented. For this reason, if Legion/DustPort is on PC, they can address and fix bugs and glitches more quickly, and if something doesn't work quite right with the fix, they can adjust it, and will know to do the same for the PS4. This speeds up the feedback loops, and means that PS4 problems can be fixed more quickly with fewer negative consequences. Second, with Sony, there are no test servers, so players can't test out changes beforehand. This leads to many of the problems we have experienced, like super rocket tanks, rifles with RPMs in multiples of what is intended etc. On PC, CCP would be able to have test servers (I assume, I could be wrong), and many of these issues would be obvious and be fixed before the update ever comes out, so we see fewer problems. Even if they can't fix it, they may decide not to release an update that would have more negatives than positives. Either way, it works out for the PS4 players. Perhaps I am wrong, and my limited knowledge of game development has led me to inaccurate to conclusions, but based upon what I know, or at least think I know, a port to the PC prior to a PS4 port would be ideal. Even if there is cheating on the PC, most PC gamers are used to cheaters, and with EVE on the PC, many would still prefer to play on PC even with the cheating. I think PS3 to PC to PS4 would bring in the largest number of players, with the greatest amount of benefit to both CCP and EVE and Dust supporters. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.12.11 22:15:00 - [3] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: One Eyed King wrote: While I do think cheating could be a problem with PC, there are plenty of good reasons to port to PC before the PS4. First, is that with Sony, there are limitations to the updates, how and when they are implemented. For this reason, if Legion/DustPort is on PC, they can address and fix bugs and glitches more quickly, and if something doesn't work quite right with the fix, they can adjust it, and will know to do the same for the PS4. This speeds up the feedback loops, and means that PS4 problems can be fixed more quickly with fewer negative consequences. Second, with Sony, there are no test servers, so players can't test out changes beforehand. This leads to many of the problems we have experienced, like super rocket tanks, rifles with RPMs in multiples of what is intended etc. On PC, CCP would be able to have test servers (I assume, I could be wrong), and many of these issues would be obvious and be fixed before the update ever comes out, so we see fewer problems. Even if they can't fix it, they may decide not to release an update that would have more negatives than positives. Either way, it works out for the PS4 players. Perhaps I am wrong, and my limited knowledge of game development has led me to inaccurate to conclusions, but based upon what I know, or at least think I know, a port to the PC prior to a PS4 port would be ideal. Even if there is cheating on the PC, most PC gamers are used to cheaters, and with EVE on the PC, many would still prefer to play on PC even with the cheating. I think PS3 to PC to PS4 would bring in the largest number of players, with the greatest amount of benefit to both CCP and EVE and Dust supporters. All reasons are moot in front of the issue of easy hacking. In which case we still get the PS4 port, and if PC players find the cheating overly burdensome, they can get on and play on the PS4. EVE is on the PC, and I am sure it has its share of cheaters, but many if not most of them still prefer it. Why not give everyone what they want if it is fairly feasible? With PS4 having the same x86 architecture as the PC, it is much easier to port between the two than with the PS3. I don't see any reason to arbitrarily limit the game to a single system. I can understand if there are technological and financial reasons, but I see fewer if any of those being the case with a PC to PS4 port. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.12.14 03:37:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: ...you have no idea how much of a nuisance we are to EVE players.... Good. One of the few Pros for PC to me is the notion that I could stab those smarmy MFers. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.