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Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.10 07:25:00 -
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Unfairness or unfair systems are the thing that will turn me off fastest of anything. There is no way that a supposedly luck-based system that consistently gives individuals not one but many prized items can be called fair. Just because it's luck based does not make it fair. It's just lucky! The assumption is luck is egalitarian, that everyone has the same luck, and therefore everyone has the same chance of getting a good item.
But what if that assumption is incorrect? There's a funny thing about luck. Just because some chance based thing has happened exactly the same for the last 50 times does not mean it is going to be the same next time. Or that it has to be different. Every event has the same chance of occurring as it did the last time and the next time.
If CCP wants to be fair they need to stop with the luck based stuff and start dishing out goodies based on some sort of performance measures. People will complain about that too, I'm sure but at least it will be "fair". |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.10 07:57:00 -
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Soto Gallente wrote:It's basically like the lottery. A guy that spent $100 on the lottery may not get anything. Meanwhile a guy that spends $5 might win a million bucks. It is how the lottery works.
It's EXACTLY like a lottery! If this is supposed to be in any way "fair" they should start calling it what it is. People are thinking they should get their share of the goodies, but lotteries don't work that way.
I've gotten some pretty nice stuff from strongboxes myself, but absolutely no BPOs and since I don't gamble, I won't pay for keys to unlock the thousands of the things I have.... |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.10 10:28:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Soto Gallente wrote:It's basically like the lottery. A guy that spent $100 on the lottery may not get anything. Meanwhile a guy that spends $5 might win a million bucks. It is how the lottery works. It's EXACTLY like a lottery! If this is supposed to be in any way "fair" they should start calling it what it is. People are thinking they should get their share of the goodies, but lotteries don't work that way. I've gotten some pretty nice stuff from strongboxes myself, but absolutely no BPOs and since I don't gamble, I won't pay for keys to unlock the thousands of the things I have.... or be like me and spend $0 and get 4 BPOs from boxes and a handfull of bpo mods/suits/skins from events
I do spend $0 on keys, and have gotten lots of nice stuff . But no BPOs unfortunately. Well, after all, it is a casino... :) |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.13 11:57:00 -
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Fristname Family name wrote:I would really only like to see all modules and adv AUR gear removed from strongboxes, love getting 3 sets of adv knives when i open 10boxes lol, does anyone actually use the AUR gear they get? cause i hardly ever do lol cause whenever i go to restock in game i gotta go into the fitting and restock to and ahhh just takes way too long.
I like to make fits with the Caldari- suited gear I get. For a lark I also put together fits with other gear but I never use them. I use the Caldari stuff just to see how good it is. I don't care about losing it because I would never have bought it in the first place and will never replace it, but I don't see the point in just leaving it sit there unused. |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.13 12:01:00 -
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Rikku Previa wrote:I haven't gotten anything cool from strongboxes yet but this random complaining is stupid lol why does it have to be fair? The randomness of it is what makes opening each strongbox exciting
lol "exciting" . No not really. I open 10 boxes when I get 10 keys from dailies. I see what comes out of them. It's never any good. Sometimes there's an item I can use, but since I only use Caldari gear, that's pretty rare. The cr@p I get otherwise is pretty useless to me. No BPOs. Just cr@p. |
Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:28:00 -
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Devadander wrote:Two guarantees to opening boxes:
You will never get the quafe you want.
You will hardly ever get anything good opening less than 30 at once.
The more boxes you open in a row, the higher the odds of receiving good stuff. I have opened 2000 boxes.... Using 8-20 keys is a waste. Save them until you have 30 or more. Open 10, and always use the open more option.
Heed my advice, and you will start to see skins, and quafe weapons.
Really? I thought people were saying don't open one at a time, open 10. Now we're told open as many at once as possible. Why does this change the "luck"? Is there some subroutine that determines "oh they've opened x number already in this session, better give them something good!"? Then it's not luck.
Frankly, my experience of opening strongboxes is that it doesn't matter how many I open in a row, I never get anything good. I get lots of stuff but none of it is worth anything much to me. Even a skin is likely to be for a suit I don't use. I only run Caldari on this character, so I have a 3 in 4 chance of any skin being for a suit I don't use. My Gallente alt got an Amarr skin of some sort. She can't use that either. If we could trade stuff maybe some of what comes out of strongboxes would be worth something.
This is supposed to be a means by which CCP encourages people to buy AUR to get keys, but since it's never worked for me, they have Buckley's chance of getting me buying keys that way... |
Alena Asakura
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Posted - 2015.12.13 23:32:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Fristname Family name wrote:I would really only like to see all modules and adv AUR gear removed from strongboxes, love getting 3 sets of adv knives when i open 10boxes lol, does anyone actually use the AUR gear they get? cause i hardly ever do lol cause whenever i go to restock in game i gotta go into the fitting and restock to and ahhh just takes way too long. The AUR version of the gear I use I let build up until I have at least 150 of them and then I'll equip the item; this prevents me from having any real issues when it comes down to restocking fits.
That sounds like a really good plan. I think with all my AUR gear, the suits run out fastest (lowest number of them) and I use them up until they're gone, so I don't have them hanging around and so that I don't use my ISK and LP gear in the meantime. When I run out of the suits, I delete the fitting until next time I have enough of them... |
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