They reduced the lock on range to 100 meters I believe. Anyway look, infantry kinda need swarms to be able to defend themselves from aircraft. Most people aren't good enough to hit a ds with one of the other av weapons. Sorry, but they are your counter. There will always be a big back and fourth about swarms being op because the home in on targets. Personally I think they are in a good place. Personally I also believe they are harder to use than most piolets give credit for, just because they are the most common anti air threat.

I don't fly because I suck at it, I know I suck at it so I don't fly, I don't cry on the forums about how it should be easier for me.

Good pilots have blown my ass away whilst I've been av'ing them with swarms/fg's/plc's. Sucky pilots usually die in flames.

though i fully understand the sentiment of your post, you are not being killed in 2 swarm hits.

My dogfighting fit has no plate, or an afterburner. With hardener down it takes three shots. It may take three shots with the hardener up anyway, but the hardner is for deflecting small rail, buying time against a large rail or forge that i can make miss, and various fire, not for attacking a strong position. Its built for intercepting roof campers, speed, and fire power.

My ground attack fit (or roof top attack fit) has a plate, rep and hardener, and that one can tank 4 shots, but just barely. Tiny sliver of health. If I am not out of dodge or the swaner dead, then i'm dead. Natuarlly, i value my 300+ k droship over that 100 k swamer (if even that considering all the LP gear, aurum proto AV, i still have 80+ haywire swarms from boxes) so i dont want to push it to the 4 hits. If he gets a second volley in the air and i am gone.

I'm a now retired ads, and sds pilot. It doesn't matter. You can do flips, stall in midair, use the inertia from free fall to catapult under a bridge with mere inches of clearance, doesn't matter, they will follow you to hell and back. Yes, you can outfly a volley with a ab, hell if you are nose down and flying out of hell you can occasionally escape. Make swarms capable of being dodged, turn radius if they pass a Ds reduced to 0. If I do a flip and I'm flying at top speed it shouldn't turn as fast as it does. Hell, give Ds a flare module at the very least. We currently have to rely on something (hardeners) which should be removed from the game. Give us flares instead!

I feel your pain brother as an ADS pilot myself swarms are my biggest problem. It is not the range that is the problem as you woukd need to be in 150meters of the guy it's the swarms maneuverability, the fact along that u need a fuel injector to out run these damn things should say enough but the fact that they are IMPOSSIBLE to out maneuver is just overkill for Ds. That combined with an ADS very limited fitting space and to thew model slots is what leads to many ships going down

UPDATE: Some people stated theres no way I could have died to just 2 swarm rounds. Well I flew a bit last night and only lost a few ships, two deaths in particular were so fast I could barely activate my hardner and afterburner before dying. Despite getting very far away in one, both deaths were because I stayed in the DS to see the damage from the swarms.

I was blown away at how much damage was being put out per round. My ADS at current levels has 900shp and 2700ahp, heres the screens of my deaths to what was 2 solid swarm hit impacts. If there were 3 rounds fired one did not impact like the rest. This happened twice yesterday so I took screens of both incidents.

http://imgur.com/X50EVqo

And

http://imgur.com/nmRHSyd

Not even on Cal commandos. (They get the swarm bonus right?)