Yeah because the one time in 137 active shooterincidents is totally worth the cost that open or concealed carry causes.

Your fear of a statistically unlikely event leads you to accept far more frequent innocent deaths as a consequence and it is baffling.

I'm not anti-gun but that sounds like the most idiotic idea ever.

I'd way more concerned about the 10 's f*ck who knows maybe 100's millions stupid people who you would be arming rather than the couple of crazy people who are able to get it legally or illegally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJVF-w0We8


For example when i'm driving i have never been concerned if the guy behind me has a bomb in his car and is about to f*cking blow himself up as a terrorist plot. I'm worried about the dumb b*tch rear ending into me because he is texting on her phone.

I never said i have problems with you specifically carrying a gun. But now maybe i do considering my post i was referring to stupid people in general, i find it a bit strange you would defend yourself on their behave.



I said i have a problem with "Everyone" carrying a gun is a terrible idea. Even children, people with felonies and mental disabilities excluded i would not trust majority of the people i'm around to carry a gun.

Making a stupid mistake when carrying a gun can lead to some pretty serious consequences.

Obligated to carry? Your high.

As to the road rage, it happens. So do people drinking while packing. How many drinks do you trust to shoot straight or make rational decisions?

What's funny is that you assent to some form of control when you say crazy people shouldn't have guns, but right now you don't have to do a background check to get a gun,just make a private purchase.

Your country has two internal crises around guns. The first is the constant tragedy of woundings and deaths due to rampant guns, the second is the inability of your government to respond to it.

I admire your zeal but let's look at this logically.I do agree ISIS is a problem however there a lot of things to consider:

First off, sleeper agents. We do not know who they are, where they are or when they still strike. This is actually the core aspect of terrorism, not the bombs or the shooting but the fact that we do not know when/if/where it will happen. This uncertainty makes us fearful and does the job of terrorism for the terroist. Then when these sleeper agents do act, it just reinforces the fear. The scary truth is, it's not just people of Arbian or Middle Eastern descent doing the attacks. There are white, black, asian and polyneisan members of ISIS.

Secondly, we need to address the region ISIS originated from: Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. All these places have or had at one point a ruthless controlling dictator which kept most extremist under control, when western society moved in and uplifted ****** and Gaddafi, it gave these extremist more pull, similar to how ****** rose to power after WW1 and the decline of the Duestchemark. So more involment in the Middle East needs to be taken carefully or we may create something even worse than what is there already.

Thirdly, their recruitment campaign. Has anyone seen it? It is targeted to young men who wish to live a "Rambo" life style. Now most people would just laugh this off, but an impressionable 13 year old that has been playing CoD 24/7 would want that kind of life. Hell at one point the US Army use dto use Video Games as a recruitment tool and when I served between 2009-2011, most of the young guys I served with realized that it wasn't like CoD.

Finally, I know you didn't say this but a lot of people need to undersrand this: Not all Muslims are extremist or terroists. Hell, these extremist don't even follow the true teachings of Muhammad or the Qu'ran. It is actually a peaceful religion with warnings against war. So don't blame the Muslims, blame the idiots who think they are Muslims but are just extremist.

So while I do agree something needs to be done to stop them, however we need to be cautious about this. Not to mention the World itself is on the tipping egde of a knife, one mistake but any world leader and we have another World War on our hands.

Edit: The two censored names are the old dictator of Iraq and the fuhere of Germany from 1930s onwards. Their names are censored on these forums.

That moment when I have actually fully studied the Qu'ran including the context it was written in. Most people don't know this anout me, but I love studying religious text. Also the defense he is using to prove that Islam promotes killing of "infidels" is being pulled from certain verses and is taken out of complete context. Try actually studying theology sometime, it opens your eyes.

You are quoting verses from different books without naming the books. So you are really trying to set me up to fail here. But here it is:

Given the time it was written was round the time where tensions between Jews and Christians and other Arabic nations (was this was written during he time when Islam had yet to be established and was just Muhammrd teaching his people).

Now Jews and the Arabic nations had been warring for hundreds if not thousands of years before even Christianity was established. So it stands to reason that the Arabic hatred of that time would fall onto Christians though technically they (Muslims) do recognize Jesus.

That first quote "do not takes friends of Christians and Jews as they are friends of each other." Is very obscure. Yes it does sound like like hate mongering but there is nothing there about killing. In fact it was actually more about segregation than killing. That ending "God does mot guide an unjust people," is more of a reason to use to segregate themselves from Jews and Christians. This would of actually been a good thing as I have stated before, there has been a thousand year hatred between them previously.

9:73 is someone begging the prophet to go to war. Again without the rest of the book and chapter, it is unclear what the response of Muhammad was. Also seeing as Muhammad was the "last true prophet" there is only one person that this could be addressed to.

48:29 is more of an observation during the wars between the Muslims and the Jews and Christians. Same observations are made about the Jews in the Torah and old testament of the bible. This is, again, completely taken out of context.