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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.04 03:46:00 -
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Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
Im just a glorified blueberry
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.12.04 03:49:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
I pressume cause some boykos will go for console more than for new pc?
"Im original Boii Boyko"
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang 13 COILS
5
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Posted - 2015.12.04 03:55:00 -
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KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them.
=ƒç+=ƒç¬
Retired Merc... for now.
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Xenu Khanid
ScReWeD uP InC Devil's Descendants
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Posted - 2015.12.04 03:59:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? That statement is a straight out fallacy. People want to port it to both platforms so that people from all walks of life can play it. |
Georgia Xavier
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:04:00 -
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Because they can't handle the #MasterRace
Click for an instant good day! (or atleast cheer you up a bit)
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:07:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller
Im just a glorified blueberry
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Summa Militum
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:08:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
The size of my hands are not conducive to playing with a keyboard. If the game were ported to PC, on the slim chance that I would actually build a gaming PC, I would still use a controller. |
JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:13:00 -
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The ps4 supports keyboard and mouse lol.
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:46:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
Because the KB/M vs Controller "debate" threads were epic. I might be wrong but I think it was a KB/M vs Controller thread in which death threats and supposed real life addresses were exchanged. |
Xenu Khanid
ScReWeD uP InC Devil's Descendants
7
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:48:00 -
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Crease Release wrote:Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? Because the KB/M vs Controller "debate" threads were epic. I might be wrong but I think it was a KB/M vs Controller thread in which death threats and supposed real life addresses were exchanged. It is so stupid, because either way, each one has its advantages and disadvantages, and they are both equal. |
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maybe deadcatz
Serris Inc
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:49:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
Still at it? I'm surprised it took you so long. I thought you would stay quiet after failing to build a better PC for the same price of a ps4.
Ha!You can't kill me! I'm already dead!
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Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:53:00 -
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Xenu Khanid wrote:they are both equal.
They're not. CCP attempted to make them equal. |
Xenu Khanid
ScReWeD uP InC Devil's Descendants
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Posted - 2015.12.04 04:54:00 -
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Crease Release wrote:Xenu Khanid wrote:they are both equal. They're not. CCP attempted to make them equal. Okay, I will try to see your point. Once you give me rock hard can not be proven wrong evidence. Then I will give you my evidence |
Crease Release
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.12.04 05:01:00 -
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*Rolls eyes*
Yeah, I don't play the "proof or it didn't happen game" anymore. Do what you feel like you need to do with your "evidence". |
Xenu Khanid
ScReWeD uP InC Devil's Descendants
7
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Posted - 2015.12.04 05:52:00 -
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Crease Release wrote:*Rolls eyes*
Yeah, I don't play the "proof or it didn't happen game" anymore. Do what you feel like you need to do with your "evidence". An argument is invalid if there is no evidence. Therefore, you forfeit and I win. |
JIMvc2
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.12.04 05:57:00 -
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You all arguing. Here listen to some Taylor Swift music you'll feel better and go from a humble person to a happy person. :D
Bought tickets for Taylor Swift concert woohoo!!! BEST EARLY BIRTHDAY GIFT EVER!!! :D
Judge my muscle content then I'll judge you by your Half Marathon time. Never underestimate runners - "Jim"
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Xenu Khanid
ScReWeD uP InC Devil's Descendants
7
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Posted - 2015.12.04 06:16:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:You all arguing. Here listen to some Taylor Swift music you'll feel better and go from a humble person to a happy person. :D
Bought tickets for Taylor Swift concert woohoo!!! BEST EARLY BIRTHDAY GIFT EVER!!! :D It is not considered an argument when no evidence is presented |
Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.12.04 06:53:00 -
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This thread is amusing for many reasons.
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 07:00:00 -
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#PCMasterRacePeopleAreStupid
Best regards
Port it now !
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2015.12.04 07:57:00 -
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DUST is for kids. More kids play on console.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
895
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Posted - 2015.12.04 08:01:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Because they can't handle the #MasterRace Not even worthy of a like. Tis a shame
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
1
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Posted - 2015.12.04 11:02:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
Because they compare kb/m and gamepad based on dust514, where kb/m support is a joke.
This leads them to believe that kb/m and gamepad are "equal" - that's why all the accurate things in the world are being done with a gamepad instead of a mouse/trackball whatever.
That's why everyone played vq3 with a gamepad back in the day...
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.12.04 11:34:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? In case you miss consoles have USB ports and support mouse and KB. People ask for ps4 bc not all are PC players from eve, some are long time Sony aficionados.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.12.04 11:41:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? In case you miss consoles have USB ports and support mouse and KB. People ask for ps4 bc not all are PC players from eve, some are long time Sony aficionados.
PC also has a USB port and support gamepads ;) |
sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang 13 COILS
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:41:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller Accuracy is not everything.
They are not ultimately superior to controllers in every way, especially not with DUST's controls.
=ƒç+=ƒç¬
Retired Merc... for now.
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang 13 COILS
5
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:43:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: DUST is for kids. More kids play on console. Silly Operative, DUST is for kids!
=ƒç+=ƒç¬
Retired Merc... for now.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:47:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller Accuracy is not everything. They are not ultimately superior to controllers in every way, especially not with DUST's controls. Accuracy is everything in a fps
Im just a glorified blueberry
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang 13 COILS
5
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:48:00 -
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dzizur wrote:shaman oga wrote:Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? In case you miss consoles have USB ports and support mouse and KB. People ask for ps4 bc not all are PC players from eve, some are long time Sony aficionados. PC also has a USB port and support gamepads ;) Yes, there is arguments for both sides to why you should port them there.
I never really see why people say 'PC' or 'PS4' and gods forbid "XB1" instead of 'PS4 and PC'
PS4 + PC = better. Why? First of all, more bloody players. Secondly, It does not betray the console players like Rouge Wedding. (For those who do not know, they kind of pissed us off by announcing Project Legion... which I feel safe to say, flopped.)
=ƒç+=ƒç¬
Retired Merc... for now.
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang 13 COILS
5
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:50:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller Accuracy is not everything. They are not ultimately superior to controllers in every way, especially not with DUST's controls. Accuracy is everything in a fps Golden, it certainly is not.
Even in CoD it is not. It is a good thing to have, but it is not everything.
Posting too much in here, I must be off to another thread!
=ƒç+=ƒç¬
Retired Merc... for now.
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
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Posted - 2015.12.04 12:53:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller Accuracy is not everything. They are not ultimately superior to controllers in every way, especially not with DUST's controls. Accuracy is everything in a fps Golden, it certainly is not. Even in CoD it is not. It is a good thing to have, but it is not everything. Posting too much in here, I must be off to another thread! In cod there is no need for accuracy when auto-aim is holding your Hand
Im just a glorified blueberry
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.04 18:41:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller?
Stating opinion as fact to put other peoples opinion as fact in question.
I like it.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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jordy mack
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.12.06 01:46:00 -
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i use game pads for any first person pc games.
i played this game a little while ago ( cant remember the name). it was a really fast shooter where everyone had a megaman cannon on thier arm, and after a while a big tornado starts forcing all the players into the middle. it's real i swear! :)
anyway... i asked if anyone else in the game was playing with a controller.
u should have heard them... "why would i do that?!" "why are you gimping yourself?!" "is your kb broken?" "wow, that must suck, i feel sorry for you"
they got pretty butthurt after i won a few matches :)
Less QQ more PewPew
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sir RAVEN WING
RabbitGang 13 COILS
5
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Posted - 2015.12.06 02:15:00 -
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jordy mack wrote:i use game pads for any first person pc games.
i played this game a little while ago ( cant remember the name). it was a really fast shooter where everyone had a megaman cannon on thier arm, and after a while a big tornado starts forcing all the players into the middle. it's real i swear! :)
anyway... i asked if anyone else in the game was playing with a controller.
u should have heard them... "why would i do that?!" "why are you gimping yourself?!" "is your kb broken?" "wow, that must suck, i feel sorry for you"
they got pretty butthurt after i won a few matches :) Haha.
I bet one of those players is a PC elitist. Guessing the first one.
=ƒç+=ƒç¬
Retired Merc... for now.
"it's just buried by 3 pages." - Cat Merc
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Reign Omega
L0RDS 0F LEGI0N Damage LLC
2
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Posted - 2015.12.06 05:21:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller Accuracy is not everything. They are not ultimately superior to controllers in every way, especially not with DUST's controls. Accuracy is everything in a fps
Accuracy whilst adjusting to the flow of battle is everything. I can shoot like crazy with a mouse, but I move like Tiny tim. I can shoot like semi crazy with analogs, but I more than make up for it with movement.
Even on PC shooters where all the so called "big boys" played....I would hop in lobbies and hold my own, so much so that it was a surprise that I was using a controller after the fact. Its more about what you're comfortable with. I could never get my fat hands to properly move on a keyboard, its just not what I do.
Hell naw...to the naw naw naw...hell to the naw.
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Alena Asakura
Caldari Logistics Reserve
172
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Posted - 2015.12.06 09:25:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Golden Day wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:KB/M superior... Hah. Haha hahaha
Ah.... They both have their goods and bads.
But we say port to PS4 too for reasons such as We are majorly console players. More but too lazy to list them. A mouse is literally more accurate than a controller Accuracy is not everything. They are not ultimately superior to controllers in every way, especially not with DUST's controls. Oh please! A mouse is going to by definition be more accurate at aiming than a controller. That will ultimately make a mouse a better aiming device. |
DUST Fiend
17
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Posted - 2015.12.06 18:46:00 -
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You can already use KBM so I'm not quite sure what the point of this post is.
People want a port because the game industry is evolving and DUST is over here like a crippled baby crawling in circles looking for its binky.
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
WoD 514
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.12.06 18:47:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:You can already use KBM so I'm not quite sure what the point of this post is.
People want a port because the game industry is evolving and DUST is over here like a crippled baby crawling in circles looking for its binky. Missing the whole point of the question but ok.
Im just a glorified blueberry
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DUST Fiend
17
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Posted - 2015.12.06 19:03:00 -
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Golden Day wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:You can already use KBM so I'm not quite sure what the point of this post is.
People want a port because the game industry is evolving and DUST is over here like a crippled baby crawling in circles looking for its binky. Missing the whole point of the question but ok. Plenty of great games have support for both and do just fine.
So what, no competitive game can ever come to the PS4 because it has KBM support?
I guess I really am missing the whole point of post, because it seems to be lacking one.
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
WoD 514
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Aeon Amadi
13
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Posted - 2015.12.06 19:08:00 -
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I found this to be an interesting read: http://www.dailydot.com/esports/titanfall-exertus-free-refills-pc-console/
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.12.06 19:11:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Golden Day wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:You can already use KBM so I'm not quite sure what the point of this post is.
People want a port because the game industry is evolving and DUST is over here like a crippled baby crawling in circles looking for its binky. Missing the whole point of the question but ok. Plenty of great games have support for both and do just fine. So what, no competitive game can ever come to the PS4 because it has KBM support? I guess I really am missing the whole point of post, because it seems to be lacking one. Again missing the point
Mouse is superior to a controller in a FPS
Why would you want a cross platform fps game is the question
Im just a glorified blueberry
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.12.06 19:36:00 -
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Any port is better than no port.
#PorttoWiiU
Sanmatar Kelkoons now recruiting
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
1
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Posted - 2015.12.07 09:16:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:dzizur wrote:shaman oga wrote:Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? In case you miss consoles have USB ports and support mouse and KB. People ask for ps4 bc not all are PC players from eve, some are long time Sony aficionados. PC also has a USB port and support gamepads ;) Yes, there is arguments for both sides to why you should port them there. I never really see why people say 'PC' or 'PS4' and gods forbid "XB1" instead of 'PS4 and PC' PS4 + PC = better. Why? First of all, more bloody players. Secondly, It does not betray the console players like Rouge Wedding. (For those who do not know, they kind of pissed us off by announcing Project Legion... which I feel safe to say, flopped.) It also allows those EVE players who want to be DUST bunnies to get down here and play without buying a PS4. I support launching it on PS4 and PC within close proximity. Say 3 - 5 months. Just to keep it all fine and dandy with the entire community.
First of all, CCP has zero experience in ps4 (see how this worked with dust and ps3?) and apart from that ps4 will also be obsolete in few years..
Second of all, "betraying the console players" - you mean the 300 people that still play dust? Besides, if they port to ps4 then you will say they are "betraying ps3 owners"
And lastly - if aiming is not so important in FPS games why all of console versions have auto-aim? ;) |
Genral69 death
Only Bitche's
902
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Posted - 2015.12.07 09:42:00 -
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^ pc Scrub Yes ccp may not have any experience in ps4 technology but as they on the most successful pc game to date, they wanted to branch out for a new audience. Thus why dust 514 was made, to expand 1 great game to another console in a different way. Either way everyone's constantly moaning about a port to whatever platform isn't going to make any difference weather it happens or not
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=213777&find=unread
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Grobda
Carbon 7
9
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Posted - 2015.12.07 09:51:00 -
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I've used a dual stick and mouse/keyboard for about 15 years. Earlier games from doom onwards used mouse but the now universal mouse aim x/y and kbd 'wasd' forward/backward/strafe only became standard around the time of quake 2, about the same time as the PS1 got the first dual stick controller (dual shock came slightly later and is just a dual stick with vibration).
With raw input and no aim assist mouse/kbd is superior every time, but kills are easier on dust with DS due to aim assist and some horrible mouse interpretation of turn rate that was brought in to gimp mice some time ago. Exception is long range forging or possibly sniping where fine control of aim is still superior with mouse.
Basically you can make either better/worse depending on how the software is setup to handle it, dust handled that by assisting DS and gimping mouse; if you cripple one thing and assist another it proves the crippled item is inherently superior.
So it doesn't matter what platform is used as far as input is concerned. Both PS4 and PC support pads and mice and the software can be 'balanced' as it is currently. |
Golden Day
Corrosive Synergy RUST415
2
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Posted - 2015.12.07 22:15:00 -
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dzizur wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:dzizur wrote:shaman oga wrote:Golden Day wrote:Why do people say "They should port it to PC and ps4" when keyboard and mouse is obviously more superior than a controller? In case you miss consoles have USB ports and support mouse and KB. People ask for ps4 bc not all are PC players from eve, some are long time Sony aficionados. PC also has a USB port and support gamepads ;) Yes, there is arguments for both sides to why you should port them there. I never really see why people say 'PC' or 'PS4' and gods forbid "XB1" instead of 'PS4 and PC' PS4 + PC = better. Why? First of all, more bloody players. Secondly, It does not betray the console players like Rouge Wedding. (For those who do not know, they kind of pissed us off by announcing Project Legion... which I feel safe to say, flopped.) It also allows those EVE players who want to be DUST bunnies to get down here and play without buying a PS4. I support launching it on PS4 and PC within close proximity. Say 3 - 5 months. Just to keep it all fine and dandy with the entire community. First of all, CCP has zero experience in ps4 (see how this worked with dust and ps3?) and apart from that ps4 will also be obsolete in few years.. Second of all, "betraying the console players" - you mean the 300 people that still play dust? Besides, if they port to ps4 then you will say they are "betraying ps3 owners" And lastly - if aiming is not so important in FPS games why all of console versions have auto-aim? ;) Bruh you delivered it
Im just a glorified blueberry
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
459
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Posted - 2015.12.07 23:40:00 -
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join necrom0ngers
Object of war is not2 die 4ur country murder bastard 4 his
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
4
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Posted - 2015.12.08 01:05:00 -
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dzizur wrote: First of all, CCP has zero experience in ps4 (see how this worked with dust and ps3?) and apart from that ps4 will also be obsolete in few years..
Second of all, "betraying the console players" - you mean the 300 people that still play dust? Besides, if they port to ps4 then you will say they are "betraying ps3 owners"
And lastly - if aiming is not so important in FPS games why all of console versions have auto-aim? ;)
The PS4 is built with a PC structure in mind. This is because so many developers complained about the cell structure of the PS3 and Sony actually listened. Basically the PS4 is just a PC that is totally uniform across the board. This means no cross optimizing to various graphics cards and CPU combos.
The betrayal was in the fact that we all fell for "laser focused on PS3" and "10 year road map". It really has nothing to do with exactly what the platform is. 2 years later it is simply time for a move off of the PS3 as it has run its course, unfortunately that is with next to no progress being made.
Not sure where aiming not being important came from but we all know it is and we also know that aim assist is meant to make up for the finer precision which controllers do not have.
Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
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