DUST Search - Buff Sentinals, Commandos, and Scouts

DIinkelFritz wrote:

Megaman Trigger wrote:

DIinkelFritz wrote:

Commandos...need a buff. Comparing the two, fully fitted, my assault suit is faster, has more upward mobility, more dmg buff from weapon upgrades, smaller hit box, smaller profile, stronger scan resolution, grenades, pg/cpu, and HP. In other words, my assualt suit is better than the commando at pretty much everything, including dps, which is supposed to be the role of the commando. A DPS suit with two main weapons. So I fully support the idea of giving commandos grenades, and extra slot and a bigger dmg buff say 3%. Nuff said.

Wouldn't Commandos have the better DPS, depending on suit and weapon?

Commandos get 10% to racial weapons and two high slots, which gives a bigger bonus than stacking mods on an Assault. Plus they have the reload bonus.

Check your fittings and descriptions. The magstabs don't have stacking penalties. I put it on my suits just to make sure and they stack equally.
3 on a Gal assault :21% dmg + 15% to rate of fire =36%dps bonus
2 on Commando:10+14% = 24% dps bonus.
Maxing dmg mods here and not recommending it. The kicker is that a good Commando build needs at least one slot to myo in order to move effectively around the battlefield. Given the bigger hit box and slow speed, it dies much faster than the Assault (not considering the fact that the assault has a greater hp potential). I'm not saying the slow speed and hit box need to be changed, in fact it's how the commando is supposed to be balanced. The problem is that a commando should have a clear advantage to dps over other suits (except for the heavy and sentinel for obvious reasons) and it doesn't. The only commandos I ever look out for are those from the Minmatar. With myos, The melee dmg is enough to one shot a sentinel and jump high enough to make straight shots with the mass driver (which also gets a bonus to dmg from commando skill) A maxed dmg build would add 21%+10% to explosive and projectile weapons giving a 31% bonus to damage.
Caldari commmandos would be in the same category but, heh, no one plays caldari commando.


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Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.12.07 11:44:00 - [1] - Quote Assaults need another small nerf to either HP or speed, cos is Francois is pretty much on point about assaults. Something needs to be done. Sentinels DPS is fine, their weapons aren't the problem. What they gain isn't of much benefit due to the speed that they lose. and it needs looking at. Commandos still need that light weapon fitting bonus and maybe an extra slot, but if they get that extra slot they need to lose something. Scouts for me are a tough one. The suits themselves are fine BUT Something needs to be done to ewar without making them stupid like when the cloak was introduced. Wanna play eve?
Echo 1991 Titans of Phoenix Damage LLC 1	Posted - 2015.12.08 09:15:00 - [2] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Sentinel I suggest increasing ammo capacity and decreasing heat build up of the HMG. (I have only used the 'Quafe' HMG and the Boundless HMG so my experience is limited to that) This is fair enough, small buff but nothing crazy Quote: Remove the heat build up from the HMG altogether and slightly increase the ammo reload time. This however can NEVER happen. Wanna play eve?
Echo 1991 WarRavens Imperium Eden 1	Posted - 2015.12.14 03:17:00 - [3] - Quote DIinkelFritz wrote: Megaman Trigger wrote: DIinkelFritz wrote: Commandos...need a buff. Comparing the two, fully fitted, my assault suit is faster, has more upward mobility, more dmg buff from weapon upgrades, smaller hit box, smaller profile, stronger scan resolution, grenades, pg/cpu, and HP. In other words, my assualt suit is better than the commando at pretty much everything, including dps, which is supposed to be the role of the commando. A DPS suit with two main weapons. So I fully support the idea of giving commandos grenades, and extra slot and a bigger dmg buff say 3%. Nuff said. Wouldn't Commandos have the better DPS, depending on suit and weapon? Commandos get 10% to racial weapons and two high slots, which gives a bigger bonus than stacking mods on an Assault. Plus they have the reload bonus. Check your fittings and descriptions. The magstabs don't have stacking penalties. I put it on my suits just to make sure and they stack equally. 3 on a Gal assault :21% dmg + 15% to rate of fire =36%dps bonus 2 on Commando:10+14% = 24% dps bonus. Maxing dmg mods here and not recommending it. The kicker is that a good Commando build needs at least one slot to myo in order to move effectively around the battlefield. Given the bigger hit box and slow speed, it dies much faster than the Assault (not considering the fact that the assault has a greater hp potential). I'm not saying the slow speed and hit box need to be changed, in fact it's how the commando is supposed to be balanced. The problem is that a commando should have a clear advantage to dps over other suits (except for the heavy and sentinel for obvious reasons) and it doesn't. The only commandos I ever look out for are those from the Minmatar. With myos, The melee dmg is enough to one shot a sentinel and jump high enough to make straight shots with the mass driver (which also gets a bonus to dmg from commando skill) A maxed dmg build would add 21%+10% to explosive and projectile weapons giving a 31% bonus to damage. Caldari commmandos would be in the same category but, heh, no one plays caldari commando. All percentage based modules have a stacking penalty. The damage modifier display on the fitting screen is bugged. Wanna play eve?