DUST Search - Heavy vs Assault vs Scout -- Himi's view on kill interaction

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Came expecting trolking and rants.

Floored.

Carry on. Reading carefully. Taking notes.

I mean, if you want your fill.

CPM2 recognizes that some of you Scouts might be upset by the recent news that the recon and counter-recon functions you were waiting to be improved upon for the past year have instead been stripped away from Scouts and gifted to Logis. And then improved upon. We understand how some of you might find this disappointing. Maybe even shocking. We would've told you a long time ago that this is what CPM planned to do, but NDA. Believe it or not, we've actually been looking out for Scouts this whole time, which is why we planned in advance a very clever way to counteract any potential bad feelings you guys might experience while we take away one of the few things your class has left to work with. Some time back, we asked ourselves what might get you guys super excited but still keep Scouts "balanced" (:: chuckle ::). We're pleased to announce that we figured it out pretty much on our own, and then we put those Devs to work on something huge, just for you! We know you're going to be excited ...

Behold! An ever-so-slightly less crappy cloak.

It's true! Exactly what you guys wanted, right!? We think this will come in super handy when you Scouts are out doing your Scout jobs. We're not exactly sure what those jobs are or what they're supposed to be. Obviously, not combat. Or recon. You know, Scout stuff. Anywho, have fun guys! But not too much fun!

-CPM2

PS: You're welcome!

The Shottini sends his regards.

WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.


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Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.02 01:20:00 - [1] - Quote Came expecting trolking and rants. Floored. Carry on. Reading carefully. Taking notes. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 04:37:00 - [2] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Came expecting trolking and rants. Floored. Carry on. Reading carefully. Taking notes. I mean, if you want your fill. CPM2 recognizes that some of you Scouts might be upset by the recent news that the recon and counter-recon functions you were waiting to be improved upon for the past year have instead been stripped away from Scouts and gifted to Logis. And then improved upon. We understand how some of you might find this disappointing. Maybe even shocking. We would've told you a long time ago that this is what CPM planned to do, but NDA. Believe it or not, we've actually been looking out for Scouts this whole time, which is why we planned in advance a very clever way to counteract any potential bad feelings you guys might experience while we take away one of the few things your class has left to work with. Some time back, we asked ourselves what might get you guys super excited but still keep Scouts "balanced" (:: chuckle ::). We're pleased to announce that we figured it out pretty much on our own, and then we put those Devs to work on something huge, just for you! We know you're going to be excited ... Behold! An ever-so-slightly less crappy cloak. It's true! Exactly what you guys wanted, right!? We think this will come in super handy when you Scouts are out doing your Scout jobs. We're not exactly sure what those jobs are or what they're supposed to be. Obviously, not combat. Or recon. You know, Scout stuff. Anywho, have fun guys! But not too much fun! -CPM2 PS: You're welcome! The Shottini sends his regards. Shotty-go-bang can get off his ass and address me himself. I'm not in the market for misquoting rants through intermediaries. Not everything in this thread is going on my list of good ideas, but the presentation definitely inclines me to skip your posts in the future. If that's what you want, please continue. I will cheerily tell anyone who tries to browbeat or put me in the place they want me to be where they can merrily shove their opinions. Because I'm totally the nice guy who actually takes everyone's opinion into account, no matter how insulting or satirical, amirite? WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 07:17:00 - [3] - Quote Last I checked I wasn't elected for promising to try and play clever word games while stringing people along. It's a waste of time better spent taking the feedback that people present constructively to the devs. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 16:06:00 - [4] - Quote When you assume things, you only make an ass of U and Me. Both of you knock it off. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 16:54:00 - [5] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: "... feedback that people present constructively ..." * Dial back slightly the buff to GA Assault RoF * Dial back slightly the buffs to Assault base shield stats * Add mobility penalties to Ferroscale Plates * Increase mobility penalties to Reactive Plates * Increase mobility penalties to Armor Plates when equipped by non-heavy frames ^ Puts the brakes on power creep. Fixes Himiko's balance problem without creating new balance problems. * Sentinel Buffs ^ Moar power creep rolls the snowball downhill. Fixes Himiko's balance problem, but in doing so creates new balance problems. Free constructive feedback. Take it or leave it, but don't say I'm not helpful :-) As for assuming things, what else are we to do? We don't hear from Rattati these days, and you CPM guys don't give us much to work with. We're in the dark. Speculation is our only option. How is it that today you are the scout who is pissing me off the least? A:being straightforward. B:getting to the goddamn point C:not being a condescending ass WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH ADIPEM??? On a serious note I'm not considering more than very incremental and small adjustments to the HMG like maybe put it back to 30m as an initial adjustment and see what happens. The DPS is fine. If you can hit and the hit detection gods favor you. Sentinels are at best looking at very small tweaks as my recommendations just because if we go back to where we started I will lose my gorram mind. It would be no different than making it so you could shoot from cloak again. Sweeping adjustments to anything are off the table for me to recommend. One of the things I'm going to recommend to help new scouts is just making the cloak a flat 75% reduction. Past that going to see what can be done for the amscout. I am not touching the assaults until the actual K/s ratios are released, and I will go from there. And thank you adipem for just being fcking straightforward. You have no idea how much I am willing to listen to people who do just that. People who try condescending, clever word games will be flat out ignored. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 18:24:00 - [6] - Quote My bullsh*t filter is off-kilter dye to sleep issues. Don't have the patience or the attention span to filter that kinda thing right now. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 18:52:00 - [7] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: My bullsht filter is off-kilter dye to sleep issues. Don't have the patience or the attention span to filter that kinda thing right now. Since you were kind enough to clarify, you're off my shtlist for now. No worries, its fine. Unrelated; but do you play EVE with the Goons as well? What's your stance on the recent Imperium/Kickstarter/Cloud Ring controversy going on? I play with Goons in EVE when my time allows it. Believe it or not, discussing issues and hashing out compromises with most of the CPM can eat a lot of time. Discussing things with devs can eat a lot more. Plus I have a full-time job. So realistically I might have eight miscellaneous hours per week for gaming, assuming I don't get into an argument with someone over some "Brilliant Idea" one of us comes up with. No I do not imply I am innocent of all wrongdoing here. to the second line of questions, I honestly don't give a crap. Mittens' real life business endeavors do not concern me, nor do the people pitching in. And if you think the goons need an excuse to start a war, beyond "You're a pubbie therefore you deserve to get your teeth kicked in" You're sadly mistaken. But the tinfoil is rather humorous to read. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 12	Posted - 2015.12.03 19:05:00 - [8] - Quote Valroth you pretty much hit the nail on the head where my thoughts are. Personally, I'm of the opinion of take the assaults, make them the baseline benchmark for overall performance and just get everyone else somewhere on par within their bailiwick. Assaults aren't too horribly far off from balance. The HMG is what ganked the sentinels. The AHMG is fun as hell and highly amusing, but it doesn't have that raw power feel of the standard HMG. I'd like the feel back, but I don't want the superfatty dominance back. I want to leave armor as is, get shields on par with armor, then bring the support modules up. Not so much the damage mods, but things like precision enhancers, damps, range extenders, etc. Once we have parity, I want to have a look at close range alpha-dependent weapons like shotguns and nova knives. The one nerf I wanted was purely to hurt people who fit both plates and extenders. If you have both plates and extenders on the same dropsuit, you double the inherent penalties of each plate and extender (Ferroscales would get 1/3/5% movement penalty enjoyed by plates if extenders are fitted). I'm outvoted though, so this isn't a CPM-approved course. Just the "Breakin being sadistic again" dream to discourage fitting nothing but HP mods in both slot sets. WoW has taught me that Purple means Legendary. This means Quafe suits are the optimal loadout for killing all of you.