1: The constant idea that hardeners are the main problem of why HAV's, particularly Madrugars is still silly to me, because they didn't change much about the system (eHP actually went down because of hull and extender/plate nerfs). I'm perplexed as to why people still haven't figured out that the repair change is what caused this shift of a massive Maddy meta after rails have somewhat been brought to Earth.

2: Adding situational modules would although be nice and a step in the right direction doesn't solve the main problems, and wouldn't change the fact that our call for a nerf is misguided.

3: I still don't see the point in this. AV doesn't need general damage buffs, they need to be given niche and be tweaked accordingly. Having all of them in general being good AV is part of the problem. Also, I don't get the reason why a giant shot would do less damage towards a smaller target vs. a larger target.

4: The blaster does need to be reworked to become more of a "Large Turret", but to help with Cal HAV's use them to fight Gal HAV's with blasters? No, that doesn't even make sense considering the damage it does, plasma, which is more hard hitting towards shields in the first place. As for a reduction in %, Same as #3; it's illogical.

5: "Missiles" are certainly not getting their instagib flow back. Nerf the damage, and they can have a fast reload. Might as well rename them to rockets while you're at it.

6: As I said in #3, they need to find their niche, not just get general buffs. We know that general buffs simply don't work.

I prefer to stay away from trying to make things more "real" as that doesn't always mean "fun". Emulate all the many roles and options, but not duplicate. Real would equal OHK on pretty much everything with anything.

Would be like watching storm troopers rpg a sandcrawler

I know you really really like tanks, in reality, but it could only work for dust to an extent.

This isn't tank simulator 2016 after all.

An increased role such as breaching fortifications, destroying small turrets guarding an objective, or advanced ewar systems for disrupting and suppressing the enemy, are things that could be done to increase realism yet won't take it all the way. We have tank simulator games for that.

Stats and tank on tank interactions at current are pretty solid and nothing like real life. And they should stay that way. If we wanted to be overly realistic about it, C4 would insta pop a tank, railguns would utterly destroy other tanks in just a few hits (and it clear across the map), ect ect ect.

So realism to an extent, but just as far as tank operations in the field (IRL) are concerned.

Edit: In any case, we would likely need to hope they port the game elsewhere.

A simple switch from a High-Regeneration, High-Mitigation, Low-Buffer Meta to a High-Buffer, Low-Regeneration, Mid-Mitigation meta

I'm actually OK with jlav, it is New Eden. XD

A methana with 20gj pro and a good gunner actually can.

the only successful nova knifings of tanks in-game that I have ever seen were staged by the people involved to "prove" that nova knifing tanks was unfair. pretty much every single nova knifing vid could have been countered by a hard drive into the redline.

Because when it comes to True HAV Balance, Nova Knives make for a far bigger problem and higher priority than perma-hardened blaster maddies and ineffective Swarms.

Why not ask Rattati if you can trade out that unbearably offensive NK damage for a reasonable and fair limitation of 1 hardener per loadout? Bam! Instantly better HAV balance. No more NK QQ. Progress on two fronts. Happiness and high fives all around. But most importantly, instantly better HAV balance.

Better HAV balance is the goal, right?

how often do you guys actually lose you tanks to knives? lke knives alone, not if av is shooting you but a scout comes along and takes it, just knives. and was it cause you didn't move? then if so it was your fault, the knives weren't the problem but you were.....

Also as someone who runs everything as i have a few alts, I feel the av isn't a large issues, its more when its multiple people or if you allow them to poke for some time

On a certain level nova knives make sense if you're carving open a hatch to dump a grenade into the crew compartment.

Current method lends itself poorly to suspension of disbelief.

But that's all in the animations and controls. If we had a titanfall-esque rodeo mechanic (and the ability to use small turrets to burn off the leeches) then we could have NKs cutting in, or commandos tearing engine vents open.

Especially if the cost of a tank is a resource authorization that allows a vehicle to be resupplied several times during a battle after you lose one.

It's not the concept of NK AV that's idiotic.

It's how it works mechanically that grates on my brain.

NKs used to be the default but no one used them because the charge mechanic never really got figured out by theplayerbase, causing more trouble than they were worth integrated.

I want to see different suits get different default melee.

Scouts: NK.
Assault: rifle buttstroke.
Logi: strike enemy to infect with disassembler nanites that EAT YOU.
Commando: punching your breastplate out through your butthole.
Sentinel: grab and tear a piece of your suit off.