DUST Search - just got scammed

CELESTA AUNGM wrote:

SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote:

i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit.
the player name is
Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite

Is there anything that can be done about this?

GÇª. Let me get this out the way first, that Summa, your last post here had me in stitches--you cracked me up!! What a hilariously frank and honest response. Good for you!

Smurf, there is something you can do to get your ISK back, AND there is something that can be done about how easy it is for uninformed+unknowing players to be Scammed.
GÇªBoth solutions are already in the game, and they don't need to be created or added by CCP (the Devs already inserted both solutions in the game, at least two years agoGÇª)
Shocked

Solutions 1 & 2 are based on the same thing: Player Socializing.

Listen to this 3-minute guide from CCP Mimic (one girl to another, I luuv Mimic--her manner is SO sweet and polite). Near the end of the vid she tells you straight-upGÇª your MUST participate in forums/chat channels---CCP really doesn't want to teach you these games with a menu tutorial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TSfydbl0Jc

There is also this video, where Mimic explains some of the features EVE chat menus have, that I suspect will be the course Dust will take as long as our game keeps alive and developing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JguZrbXV-o
Don't trade with folks, until you've followed the vid's advice and interacted with a LOT of players and learned what this game is about. That's your Solution #2.

Solution #1, is me. Bear

You'll hear Mimic describe me in the end of that second video.

If you respond to this post, or send me a mail while in your game, I will do something about your 33mil ISK loss.

But of course Smurf, you have to make the first step and reach out to me. From this point forward, remember this is New Eden. If you don't respond to my post, then by New Eden custom, we may have to start suspecting that YOU might be scamming US.

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SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 18	Posted - 2015.11.26 22:53:00 - [1] - Quote i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this?
Anaheim Darko Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.11.26 22:56:00 - [2] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? Nope. Welcome to player trading. He's done this a few times so I hear. Maxed Cores. Assault ck.0, ak.0 Scout ck.0. Sentinel ck.0, ak.0. Commando ck.0, ak.0 Logistics ck.0
benandjerrys Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden 982	Posted - 2015.11.26 22:56:00 - [3] - Quote Do your due diligence to not let it happen again. ONE VOICE//ONE COMMUNITY Support Dust/EvE cross content
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 4	Posted - 2015.11.26 22:59:00 - [4] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? Like what? Something ccp can do or his corp? "Bring out mass drivers & jump around goddamit" Check RND out here
SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 18	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:03:00 - [5] - Quote some way to at least get my isk back at least.
Anaheim Darko Corrosive Synergy 1	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:06:00 - [6] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: some way to at least get my isk back at least. Other than appealing to his good nature, no. It's a risk of trading. Maxed Cores. Assault ck.0, ak.0 Scout ck.0. Sentinel ck.0, ak.0. Commando ck.0, ak.0 Logistics ck.0
DEATH THE KlD Imperfect - Bastards 894	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:19:00 - [7] - Quote Sadly the others are correct..CCP should put an in game message before going into a trade that says they do not monitor it and trade at your own risk...so newberries know they can and probably will get scammed..only trade with your friends or well known players CEO of Imperfect Bastards and NF -Heimdallr69 Steam - Heimpai
Union118 TH3 STRUGGL3 1	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:22:00 - [8] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? If i sell something its always payment first. As for paying for item same thing unless its multiple items of the same thing. Small quantity at a time. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:24:00 - [9] - Quote Messages me if you have questions about trading. There really isn't much you can do to get your isk back. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying Council's Modified Repair Tool 4m ea Check out my thread in player
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 3	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:45:00 - [10] - Quote So ... apparently , you seemed to imagine nothing could go wrong trading with a player that works for a corp called " Goat Bangers Elite " Proudly Inconsistent Dust Youtuber He does stupid shit ... and it works !

Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.26 23:53:00 - [11] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: So ... apparently , you seemed to imagine nothing could go wrong trading with a player that works for a corp called " Goat Bangers Elite You may not know this but smurf is pretty new to this game. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying Council's Modified Repair Tool 4m ea Check out my thread in player
Dust User Opus Arcana 3	Posted - 2015.11.27 00:04:00 - [12] - Quote You're lucky you were scammed by a scrub and he wasn't a real pro like alias lycans. Dust User for CPM 3.
Vlad Rostok 312	Posted - 2015.11.27 00:06:00 - [13] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? Smurf, the first rule here is "Trust no one." At least not until you know them and they are vouched for by others (that you know not that they know).
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet RUST415 636	Posted - 2015.11.27 00:13:00 - [14] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: some way to at least get my isk back at least. Find out his alliance and message his CEO and alliance leaders. Some actually take it seriously.
Crimson Moon V Ancient Exiles. 554	Posted - 2015.11.27 00:17:00 - [15] - Quote If you really want your isk back you can always go scam somebody else. It's really easy and there lots of stupid people in the dust community. Went on a drinking binge and scammed over 200 million isk. One person I scammed contacted kain spero who asked that I give the 30 mil back. He was the CEO of N-F at the time. I told kain if he sent me 50 mil I would send the 30 mil back and he did. Many lols were had. No fucks given. Didn't even need the isk Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x Winning is teaching, losing is learning.-Mavado V
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 2	Posted - 2015.11.27 02:36:00 - [16] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: Is there anything that can be done about this? You can support this thread: Time to ask for TRADING IMPROVEMENT! KERO-TRADER is my official Eve character for Dust trading. Search "KEROSKIN" for list of skins for sale!
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy 3	Posted - 2015.11.27 03:09:00 - [17] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: So ... apparently , you seemed to imagine nothing could go wrong trading with a player that works for a corp called " Goat Bangers Elite " You may not know this but smurf is pretty new to this game. Would his decision of trading with this individual would have been different if he was a vet ? My tip for smurf : If you are selling the item , always send item ONLY after receiving isk. If you are buying something , join legit trade channels like Trello Trade and only trade with people in there , that have people to vouch for them being legit traders. Proudly Inconsistent Dust Youtuber He does stupid shit ... and it works !
JudgeIsABadPilot Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 106	Posted - 2015.11.27 03:14:00 - [18] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? LOL That's like those Nigerian scams. Never believe them. I've been boycotting this game for many months. You're all late to the party.
Summa Militum Abstract Requiem 1	Posted - 2015.11.27 03:16:00 - [19] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: If you really want your isk back you can always go scam somebody else. It's really easy and there are lots of stupid people in the dust community. Went on a drinking binge and scammed over 200 million isk. One person I scammed contacted kain spero who asked that I give the 30 mil back. He was the CEO of N-F at the time. I told kain if he sent me 50 mil I would send the 30 mil back and he did. Many lols were had. No fucks given. Didn't even need the isk You're a pathetic piece of ****. I bet you're one of those obnoxious drunks at the bar who gets beat down for talking crap to the wrong person.
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.27 03:30:00 - [20] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: So ... apparently , you seemed to imagine nothing could go wrong trading with a player that works for a corp called " Goat Bangers Elite You may not know this but smurf is pretty new to this game. New? AND has been scammed? And no one has welcomed him to new eden yet?! I pop out to play FO4 and Battlefront for 2 weeks and everyone forgets the correct procedure for this type of sh.t. Anyway OP, Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. Director of T-W-L Lord of Scrubs Praise the Sun!

CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 732	Posted - 2015.11.27 04:24:00 - [21] - Quote SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? GÇª. Let me get this out the way first, that Summa, your last post here had me in stitches--you cracked me up!! What a hilariously frank and honest response. Good for you! Smurf, there is something you can do to get your ISK back, AND there is something that can be done about how easy it is for uninformed+unknowing players to be Scammed. GÇªBoth solutions are already in the game, and they don't need to be created or added by CCP (the Devs already inserted both solutions in the game, at least two years agoGÇª) Solutions 1 & 2 are based on the same thing: Player Socializing. Listen to this 3-minute guide from CCP Mimic (one girl to another, I luuv Mimic--her manner is SO sweet and polite). Near the end of the vid she tells you straight-upGÇª your MUST participate in forums/chat channels---CCP really doesn't want to teach you these games with a menu tutorial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TSfydbl0Jc There is also this video, where Mimic explains some of the features EVE chat menus have, that I suspect will be the course Dust will take as long as our game keeps alive and developing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JguZrbXV-o Don't trade with folks, until you've followed the vid's advice and interacted with a LOT of players and learned what this game is about. That's your Solution #2. Solution #1, is me. You'll hear Mimic describe me in the end of that second video. If you respond to this post, or send me a mail while in your game, I will do something about your 33mil ISK loss. But of course Smurf, you have to make the first step and reach out to me. From this point forward, remember this is New Eden. If you don't respond to my post, then by New Eden custom, we may have to start suspecting that YOU might be scamming US. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.27 04:42:00 - [22] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: So ... apparently , you seemed to imagine nothing could go wrong trading with a player that works for a corp called " Goat Bangers Elite You may not know this but smurf is pretty new to this game. New? AND has been scammed? And no one has welcomed him to new eden yet?! I pop out to play FO4 and Battlefront for 2 weeks and everyone forgets the correct procedure for this type of sh.t. Anyway OP, Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. This kind of behavior would be fine if there was some kind of warning for new players to read about in game. They should not have to come to the forums to find out scamming is an acceptable part of trading. The inadequate trading system that is in place right now does nothing but turn new players away from this game. New player are not door mats. They should not be walked all over because something as simply as communicating risk in a games trading system is not there. I have no clue why this community is so accepting of bullshit replies like yours but it needs to stop. New players should not be exploited like this. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying Council's Modified Repair Tool 4m ea Check out my thread in player
Twelve Guage Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.11.27 04:59:00 - [23] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: i just got scammed out of 33mil isk as i was trying to buy the state kampo suit. the player name is Richard Qwerty his clan is Goat Bangers Elite Is there anything that can be done about this? GÇª. Let me get this out the way first, that Summa, your last post here had me in stitches--you cracked me up!! What a hilariously frank and honest response. Good for you! Smurf, there is something you can do to get your ISK back, AND there is something that can be done about how easy it is for uninformed+unknowing players to be Scammed. GÇªBoth solutions are already in the game, and they don't need to be created or added by CCP (the Devs already inserted both solutions in the game, at least two years agoGÇª) Solutions 1 & 2 are based on the same thing: Player Socializing. Listen to this 3-minute guide from CCP Mimic (one girl to another, I luuv Mimic--her manner is SO sweet and polite). Near the end of the vid she tells you straight-upGÇª your MUST participate in forums/chat channels---CCP really doesn't want to teach you these games with a menu tutorial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TSfydbl0Jc There is also this video, where Mimic explains some of the features EVE chat menus have, that I suspect will be the course Dust will take as long as our game keeps alive and developing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JguZrbXV-o Don't trade with folks, until you've followed the vid's advice and interacted with a LOT of players and learned what this game is about. That's your Solution #2. Solution #1, is me. You'll hear Mimic describe me in the end of that second video. If you respond to this post, or send me a mail while in your game, I will do something about your 33mil ISK loss. But of course Smurf, you have to make the first step and reach out to me. From this point forward, remember this is New Eden. If you don't respond to my post, then by New Eden custom, we may have to start suspecting that YOU might be scamming US. I don't know you but this looks to be very shady. Try not to take that too personal. SMURF0012 INFECTIOUS wrote: You can do what you like in regards to Celesta post however please be cautious. If Celesta ask you to send them anything first don't just break off contact after that. The Mistress of Massdrivers Buying Council's Modified Repair Tool 4m ea Check out my thread in player
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 732	Posted - 2015.11.27 05:13:00 - [24] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: This kind of behavior would be fine if there was some kind of warning for new players to read about in game. They should not have to come to the forums to find out scamming is an acceptable part of trading. The inadequate trading system that is in place right now does nothing but turn new players away from this game. New player are not door mats. They should not be walked all over because something as simply as communicating risk in a games trading system is not there. I have no clue why this community is so accepting of bullshit replies like yours but it needs to stop. New players should not be exploited like this. Part of your text here, should become the Mantra for a "corp" or "Brotherhood" of players who establish themselves in our game. I like almost ever sentence you wrote here, Twelve guage---I think the words shoud be preserved on the plaque of the corp (kudos for writing them, btw). But it's got to be US players that build that thing, and make it possible. This IS the game design for Dust (as it was the design for EVE). When the Devs said this was going to be "sandbox", we all thought they meant just roaming around the PLANETS doing what we want (something many PS3 players said would never be possible to do in Dust)GÇª But what the Devs meant by "sandbox" was also that we could roam around the other PLAYERS doing what we wantGÇª. Eve learned that long ago, and now trading in Dust is teaching to us just how "sandbox" we suddenly are too. If a designer integrates cursing and swearing into his game about drug lords fighting cops, it's really kind of hard to tell the designer that it's not right for his game to have violence and foul language in it. That's the environment he intended, and we need not play. If someone tells me, Celesta here's a game, it's hard, it's full of dangers, we're not going to tell you what all the dangers are, and you have to explore and learn it along the wayGÇª I'll want to try that game. It's what I personally like games for. But I am also waiting for the other side of "sandbox" to be utilized, were we players step forward to combat the dangers (in this case, Scamming) and take control of "Communication", the way EVE players have done so well in the ten years of their game, and the way you rally a fighting spirit so well in the words you wrote, Twelve. CCP regularly makes it clear, they are boldly NOT going to steer or direct player interaction in their New Eden game. They will only say player-interaction is a core mechanic of these games, and control of it is all up to US. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Starvenger's ButtCheeks 32	Posted - 2015.11.27 05:37:00 - [25] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: If you really want your isk back you can always go scam somebody else. It's really easy and there are lots of stupid people in the dust community. Went on a drinking binge and scammed over 200 million isk. One person I scammed contacted kain spero who asked that I give the 30 mil back. He was the CEO of N-F at the time. I told kain if he sent me 50 mil I would send the 30 mil back and he did. Many lols were had. No fucks given. Didn't even need the isk You're a pathetic piece of ****. I bet you're one of those obnoxious drunks at the bar who gets beat down for talking crap to the wrong person. Skank azz Coon V is known for being, well, what you called him. However, he's one of those no lifers who has nothing better to do Panthrax's Alt
Happy Violentime Baby Cancer 1	Posted - 2015.11.27 13:36:00 - [26] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: If you really want your isk back you can always go scam somebody else. It's really easy and there are lots of stupid people in the dust community. Went on a drinking binge and scammed over 200 million isk. One person I scammed contacted kain spero who asked that I give the 30 mil back. He was the CEO of N-F at the time. I told kain if he sent me 50 mil I would send the 30 mil back and he did. Many lols were had. No fucks given. Didn't even need the isk At least you're good at scamming, shame the rest of your game is weak
sizwe sizzle T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K Damage LLC 25	Posted - 2015.11.27 18:13:00 - [27] - Quote Also got scammed by a guy from the warlords legion and reported him to his CEO I was compensated 25% of what I was scammed Sizzle is sizzling when he strafe's
Jonny D Buelle The Warlords Legion 2	Posted - 2015.11.27 18:14:00 - [28] - Quote Twelve Guage wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Twelve Guage wrote: DAAAA BEAST wrote: So ... apparently , you seemed to imagine nothing could go wrong trading with a player that works for a corp called " Goat Bangers Elite You may not know this but smurf is pretty new to this game. New? AND has been scammed? And no one has welcomed him to new eden yet?! I pop out to play FO4 and Battlefront for 2 weeks and everyone forgets the correct procedure for this type of sh.t. Anyway OP, Welcome to New Eden, have a nice day. This kind of behavior would be fine if there was some kind of warning for new players to read about in game. They should not have to come to the forums to find out scamming is an acceptable part of trading. The inadequate trading system that is in place right now does nothing but turn new players away from this game. New player are not door mats. They should not be walked all over because something as simply as communicating risk in a games trading system is not there. I have no clue why this community is so accepting of bullshit replies like yours but it needs to stop. New players should not be exploited like this. I know you are not new here, but your reply is surprising. So let me explain to you why "Welcome to New Eden" should be the first response to any "omg player x just scammed me." This is New Eden, a place where you are either getting or getting got. A place where, if I wanted to, could make an alt, join your corp and then take everything. A place where I could, from EVE side, steal all the shares of the corp, or even buy them outright and have direct control of your corp. There is no warning in EVE for new players and there is no warning in Dust. Hell, the two rules of EVE (Don't fly what you can't afford to lose and Everything is a scam) you learn from the players. Saying "Welcome to New Eden," is saying to them: that sh.t happens all the time, nothing the devs can do. Director of T-W-L Lord of Scrubs Praise the Sun!
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 737	Posted - 2015.11.27 20:15:00 - [29] - Quote I'll and to your last line, Johnny: GÇªnothing the Devs WANT to do about it! It's what they intended to happen in the game. The stealing and trickery mechanic is DESIGNED into the game, and is part of the game Lore. New Eden is a power-play universe a la "Grand Theft Auto" and "The Getaway". Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.
Crimson Moon V Ancient Exiles. 555	Posted - 2015.11.28 02:28:00 - [30] - Quote Starvenger's ButtCheeks wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: If you really want your isk back you can always go scam somebody else. It's really easy and there are lots of stupid people in the dust community. Went on a drinking binge and scammed over 200 million isk. One person I scammed contacted kain spero who asked that I give the 30 mil back. He was the CEO of N-F at the time. I told kain if he sent me 50 mil I would send the 30 mil back and he did. Many lols were had. No fucks given. Didn't even need the isk You're a pathetic piece of ****. I bet you're one of those obnoxious drunks at the bar who gets beat down for talking crap to the wrong person. Skank azz Coon V is known for being, well, what you called him. However, he's one of those no lifers who has nothing better to do I am not a no lifer anymore. Well I am a no lifer but my no life is working all the time. As for being an obnoxious drunk. I am actually a really happy philosophical drunk. I am that guy that will buy you several beers if you are intelligent and have something interesting to talk about. On dust I can be a horrible person. Eve/dust is a place to be a douche and get away with it. We are part of the eve community. It is actually accepted and praised to scam. Most people don't understand that. Holding your moral code high in a video game where it is accepted and legal to scam is silly. The eve community is cut-+throat. Let how you play speak for you, not what you say.-Naberuis_x Winning is teaching, losing is learning.-Mavado V



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