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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:03:00 -
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25 for MLT/STD 50 for adv 90 for proto
K/A stay 25 points.
What do ya think??
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:08:00 -
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I like it.
I have always advicated for some variation of this, usually in the form of extra ISK based on the meta gaps of the suits, but really anything that gives the new players or even highly skilled players looking for a challenge some incentives.
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:14:00 -
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+1 great idea!
Maybe 40 mlt, 50 std, 60 adv, 70 pro.
I think 25 std is a bit low and 90 pro is a bit high. |
Garcon lyfe
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:17:00 -
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that's a lot better i think
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:54:00 -
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Not bad. Would definitely be rewarding.
How about this-
Militia/40 Basic/50 Advanced/60 Proto/70 Officer/80
An heck, meta level could come into play aswell through differences.
Militar fit is 30 as an example.
Officer is 80.
The militia kills the officer and gets the remainder as wp.
80-30=50+ more wp.
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ROMULUS H3X
research lab
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:05:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:25 for MLT/STD 50 for adv 90 for proto
K/A stay 25 points.
What do ya think??
I like the way you think, Grease. Lets roll with the idea.. maybe rather than just basing the WP on the the suit, maybe linking more directly to the loadout's meta level.
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Dropship One
DROPSHIP ONE OPERATIONS
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:30:00 -
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I like it but it is adding more calculations to a game that all ready has too many computations. It would not improve game performance. Ideas to reduce computations would be best. |
SAMEERio
WarRavens Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:09:00 -
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+1
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:13:00 -
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Hmmm what about just 50+meta level?
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:14:00 -
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Grease Spillett wrote:25 for MLT/STD 50 for adv 90 for proto
K/A stay 25 points.
What do ya think?? ^^^^^^
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:26:00 -
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I think that's too much work for CCP >.>
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.11.25 20:29:00 -
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Will this change situation? I mean - Protos will have still grim reaper run on and newbies will be still slayed in great amount.
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.26 19:44:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Will this change situation? I mean - Protos will have still grim reaper run on and newbies will be still slayed in great amount.
Yeah but they won't be as rewarding as a pro v pro 30 and 0 run.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.11.26 19:46:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Will this change situation? I mean - Protos will have still grim reaper run on and newbies will be still slayed in great amount.
It alters a reward schedule, making killing proto special, and therefore presented as "worth" the extra effort and deaths to compete against. Makes me more palatable.
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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Death Shadow117
Wolf Pack Special Forces Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.11.26 20:22:00 -
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And what about apex/fac suits? I think they should count for 40 we or even 35 just something to differentiate between the suits (std bpos will have the same we count as apex but mlt bpos count the same as mlt) |
korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.11.26 20:29:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:And what about apex/fac suits? I think they should count for 40 we or even 35 just something to differentiate between the suits (std bpos will have the same we count as apex but mlt bpos count the same as mlt) HOW ABOUT WE DO IT AS A FLAT BONUS EQUAL TO THE SUITFITTINGS META?! EG: 50+METAFITTING RATING? All we would have to do then is rebalance the meta fitting measurement...which we could do pretty easily...and we could role that effort into mega locks in pubs...
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.11.26 20:32:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:And what about apex/fac suits? I think they should count for 40 we or even 35 just something to differentiate between the suits (std bpos will have the same we count as apex but mlt bpos count the same as mlt) HOW ABOUT WE DO IT AS A FLAT BONUS EQUAL TO THE SUITFITTINGS META?! EG: 50+METAFITTING RATING? All we would have to do then is rebalance the meta fitting measurement...which we could do pretty easily...and we could role that effort into mega locks in pubs...
I don't know I'm not a dev but I think it would make things a bit more enjoyable. More fun and reward for an inferior suit to get more isk which may balance the proto vs std argument into making pubs more fun and less proto friendly.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
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Posted - 2015.11.26 22:00:00 -
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Fewer points for killing a Logi??? I'm in. =ƒÿê |
Meee One
Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki
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Posted - 2015.11.26 23:12:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Not bad. Would definitely be rewarding.
How about this-
Militia/40 Basic/50 Advanced/60 Proto/70 Officer/80
An heck, meta level could come into play aswell through differences.
Militar fit is 30 as an example.
Officer is 80.
The militia kills the officer and gets the remainder as wp.
80-30=50+ more wp. Logis equipment would make them the only targets.
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TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Fewer points for killing a Logi??? I'm in. Actually this would make being a logi even harder.
ADV gear is outdated as soon as Pro is unlocked. Pro requires higher fittings.
Min logi still only has 240 eHP,the same as the Amarr scout. Pro for logi is equivalent to basic/adv for assaults.
And if meta levels were brought in,many low level logis would be forced to fight higher teir players.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.11.27 01:28:00 -
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So long as the ob ready spam goes away with it... Good idea m8
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Baal Omniscient
Qualified Scrub
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Posted - 2015.11.27 02:11:00 -
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If I hop in this game at some point in the future and proto suits are getting a measly 5 wp for 0 meta lvl suit kills and MLT is getting 100 wp for 75+ meta lvl suit kills (in pubs only) I would probably start playing again immediately as it gives people an incentive to not spam proto/officer and may balance matches by giving incentive to run low tier gear. Well... I say I'd start immediately, but I'd have to visit the hospital first after cracking a few ribs reading and laughing at the rage of officer spammers on the forums.
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korrah silain
True Illuminate
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Posted - 2015.11.27 03:03:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Not bad. Would definitely be rewarding.
How about this-
Militia/40 Basic/50 Advanced/60 Proto/70 Officer/80
An heck, meta level could come into play aswell through differences.
Militar fit is 30 as an example.
Officer is 80.
The militia kills the officer and gets the remainder as wp.
80-30=50+ more wp. Logis equipment would make them the only targets. -1 TIGER SHARK1501 wrote:Fewer points for killing a Logi??? I'm in. Actually this would make being a logi even harder. ADV gear is outdated as soon as Pro is unlocked. Pro requires higher fittings. Min logi still only has 240 eHP,the same as the Amarr scout. Pro for logi is equivalent to basic/adv for assaults. And if meta levels were brought in,many low level logis would be forced to fight higher teir players. As a workaround I propose that the suits have meta modifiers for different slot types. For example logis have an abundance of equipment which i believe tends to have higher meta ratings than,s say modules, so for logi suits they have a negative meta modifiers for equipment(if I'm wrong and modules have the same meta ballpark as modules and weapons, then its even easier, all we do is base the multiplyer on the number of slot the suit has) so in the case of logis their meta rating would go down because they only have (say) .25 the meta rating from equipment.
On the other end of the spectrum would be heavies who have few slots over all and would slip by with a lower meta rating. This is fixed by assigning it a positive meta rating multiplyer for its modules and weapons.
you ever get to that point where you know you should sleep, but ya just...dont? yeah...me too.
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Dueling God
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.27 09:47:00 -
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I'd go with Officer 55wp proto 50wp Adv/apex 40wp STD 30wp Militia 25 wp
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.12.05 16:37:00 -
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Good stuff guys.
Somebody call for an exterminator?
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.12.05 17:37:00 -
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korrah silain wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Will this change situation? I mean - Protos will have still grim reaper run on and newbies will be still slayed in great amount.
It alters a reward schedule, making killing proto special, and therefore presented as "worth" the extra effort and deaths to compete against. Makes me more palatable.
Game should not push people to trying to kills the protoons.
We mostly have modes with points ergo there is no need for something like that especially if protoons have already advatage to kill three+ newbos on one run.
Over all it will be more contraproductive than productive ergo not solving the gap between tiering of game.
Balance through latency+wp+inventory/meta filter is the only way here.
BUT
First of all we need to get rid of FoTM and OP combos!!
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Grease Spillett
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2015.12.05 17:44:00 -
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I never said anything about META calculations. TBH I don't think CCP could pull that off so keeping it at gear by suit level is the easy option to the idea.
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Stupid Blueberry
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.05 21:30:00 -
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Really good idea but hard to implement I would think.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.12.05 22:44:00 -
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The idea's pretty much as old as the game itself. I used to lobby for it as well, but the official response from CCP was along the lines of, "We'll think about it, but it would be very difficult to do."
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