DUST Search - How about we remove the leave battle button?

Kail Mako wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

Every time I read these threads, I always come to the same conclusion. Some people just don't get it.

You can't improve the game by punishing people like that. It only rewards the stompers. Which is a problem in an of itself, and part of the reason people leave in the first place.

If you try and force them to stay, they will just restart the game, or system. If that is too much work, they will stop signing in and playing.

What they aren't going to do is stick around and play in a gamr that's conclusion was decided before they even spawned in. They aren't going to stick around so you can farm them in the redline.

If you REALLY want to be helpful, try and understand where they are coming from and REWARD them for sticking it out, and with enough incentive, they will!

What people don't realize is that every match is decided before anyone has even spawned in. One team is always going to win, and one team is always going to lose. It might not be a large difference on some games, but I can guarantee that one of the teams is going to beat the other.

Names, and tags alone aren't enough to judge how the match is going to go. I've had enough matches facing enemies who can completely wreck my whole team, but through some savvy tactics, and perseverance my team has won anyway. Leaving isn't the solution, and won't ever be.

As for punishing leavers? I just say make everything they do that match not count toward dailies, and make it so they get no SP/ISK from an incomplete. Basically, I agree with Worthless Target. Other than that, I don't really think a punishment needs to be implemented.

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Baal Omniscient Qualified Scrub 2	Posted - 2015.11.20 10:18:00 - [31] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Keister Shrapnel wrote: Or change "leave battle" option to "I'm a big ***" ==> "Do you really want to be a big *?" X-yes O-no Should get changed to "Beer Break Button". I fully support this message. Perhaps 'Beer/Cigarette Break' button. añ¼añ+añ¦-añ¬añ+añƒañ¦-añÿañ¿añ+añ+añ¦-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ "Baal comes...and destruction follows him like a storm."** añ¿añ+añ¦añ¿aÑìaññañ¦añ+añ¿aÑìañºañòañ+añ¦añ+aññ-añªañ+añùañ¿aÑìaññ-añ¦añ¦añÖaÑìañù
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 241	Posted - 2015.11.20 10:39:00 - [32] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Every time I read these threads, I always come to the same conclusion. Some people just don't get it. You can't improve the game by punishing people like that. It only rewards the stompers. Which is a problem in an of itself, and part of the reason people leave in the first place. If you try and force them to stay, they will just restart the game, or system. If that is too much work, they will stop signing in and playing. What they aren't going to do is stick around and play in a gamr that's conclusion was decided before they even spawned in. They aren't going to stick around so you can farm them in the redline. If you REALLY want to be helpful, try and understand where they are coming from and REWARD them for sticking it out, and with enough incentive, they will! What people don't realize is that every match is decided before anyone has even spawned in. One team is always going to win, and one team is always going to lose. It might not be a large difference on some games, but I can guarantee that one of the teams is going to beat the other. Names, and tags alone aren't enough to judge how the match is going to go. I've had enough matches facing enemies who can completely wreck my whole team, but through some savvy tactics, and perseverance my team has won anyway. Leaving isn't the solution, and won't ever be. As for punishing leavers? I just say make everything they do that match not count toward dailies, and make it so they get no SP/ISK from an incomplete. Basically, I agree with Worthless Target. Other than that, I don't really think a punishment needs to be implemented. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.
Union118 TH3 STRUGGL3 979	Posted - 2015.11.20 11:32:00 - [33] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: And fill matches by putting people on the team which has less players instead of the opposite. We just need smaller team based matches. Instead of 16 v 16 make it 8v 8 Also take out parties and just do randoms or soloists. Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
Jack Boost Zarena Family 1	Posted - 2015.11.20 11:42:00 - [34] - Quote What about we do ONE 256x256 match? We can put all players here and even people leave .. they join same match. Not much time left...
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides Learning Alliance 7	Posted - 2015.11.20 13:14:00 - [35] - Quote Quote: How about we remove the leave battle button? This would be a good idea and solve the problem if everyone was running solo, or if everyone in a squad always got into every match that their squad leader gets into. However, we don't all run solo, and when a full squad or fire team is queuing for match after match it is not uncommon for someone not to get in for whatever reason. If everyone in the squad had to reboot their PlayStations to reform the Squad every time Scotty gets frisky it would be a huge pain in the posterior! Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 1	Posted - 2015.11.20 14:19:00 - [36] - Quote Let me get this out there... IN ORDER TO LEAVE A MATCH, YOU DO NOTHAVE TO RESTART YOUR PS3 OR QUIT THE GAME. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SIGN OUT OF PSN AND YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE MATCH. What... 1.3, when?
Dewie Cheecham Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 873	Posted - 2015.11.20 14:33:00 - [37] - Quote Hawkings Greenback wrote: All that will happen is that the MCC will become a merc living room. Then people will more than likely just switch off the game to leave the match. It would be interesting to see if CCP had figures for the number of leavers during matches & if it has actually increased over the last 6 months. From my experience in game it has gotten worse. Then remove the ability to stay in the MCC, and spawn people into mid air.
Dewie Cheecham Enlightened Infantries Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 873	Posted - 2015.11.20 14:35:00 - [38] - Quote The only way to stop people leaving, is to add a penalty for doing so. Make it 2x SP and ISK reward of the top earner in that match. And I mean leaving for ANY reason. True accidental disconnects are so rare that It'll be merely annoying if it happens.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 13	Posted - 2015.11.20 18:15:00 - [39] - Quote Kail Mako wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Every time I read these threads, I always come to the same conclusion. Some people just don't get it. You can't improve the game by punishing people like that. It only rewards the stompers. Which is a problem in an of itself, and part of the reason people leave in the first place. If you try and force them to stay, they will just restart the game, or system. If that is too much work, they will stop signing in and playing. What they aren't going to do is stick around and play in a gamr that's conclusion was decided before they even spawned in. They aren't going to stick around so you can farm them in the redline. If you REALLY want to be helpful, try and understand where they are coming from and REWARD them for sticking it out, and with enough incentive, they will! What people don't realize is that every match is decided before anyone has even spawned in. One team is always going to win, and one team is always going to lose. It might not be a large difference on some games, but I can guarantee that one of the teams is going to beat the other. Names, and tags alone aren't enough to judge how the match is going to go. I've had enough matches facing enemies who can completely wreck my whole team, but through some savvy tactics, and perseverance my team has won anyway. Leaving isn't the solution, and won't ever be. As for punishing leavers? I just say make everything they do that match not count toward dailies, and make it so they get no SP/ISK from an incomplete. Basically, I agree with Worthless Target. Other than that, I don't really think a punishment needs to be implemented. I rarely leave when I play. And this is precisely why I don't play anymore. There USED to be good and even great games. Games where a bunch of solo players managed to have the skill and ability to read the battle to work well as a team, and beat coordinated opposition. That hardly happens anymore. And I repeat for the person above me spouting nonsense, you CANNOT penalize people enough to stay! The vast majority of people leaving are leaving because of proto stompers on the other side. The small minority of people leaving because they want to be the stompers and see a game they can't is not large enough to make any difference in removing. People WILL stop playing all together if you penalize them for playing. The ONLY way to be successful is to REWARD people for STAYING, especially when on the losing team, THEN more people will stick around. Stop supporting penalties that may satisfy you baseless sense of vengeance but ultimately kill the game. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
IG8T8 68	Posted - 2015.11.20 18:30:00 - [40] - Quote needs rep instead of MU. complete match +rep leave match -rep. contracts based on rep. then all the serial leavers can play with each other and let the fighters fight. Nomadic ISK farmer.

Taskanoss Abstract Requiem 113	Posted - 2015.11.20 18:36:00 - [41] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Keister Shrapnel wrote: Or change "leave battle" option to "I'm a big ***" ==> "Do you really want to be a big ***?" X-yes O-no Should get changed to "Beer Break Button". I fully support this message. Perhaps 'Beer/Cigarette Break' button. Now someone here actually understands the Dust life. GÇ£Nothing external to you has any power over you.GÇ¥
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance. 4	Posted - 2015.11.20 23:03:00 - [42] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: We don't need this. (PC will be broken without this - cus you can't bring more people to match) Instead we need list of all matches and freely join to match that is suitable for you. (people limit/ ping-connection/ wp etc) If Scoty can't make happy all, you must do it onself. But question is if console players can handle this? What is this madness you speak of? LOBBIES IN A LOBBY SHOOTER!!!???????? Go away with your logical and sense making ideas. Show there is a future #CCPSpeakOn514
duster 35000 623	Posted - 2015.11.20 23:15:00 - [43] - Quote TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote: And fill matches by putting people on the team which has less players instead of the opposite. how about we remove kebab? https://i.4cdn.org/mlp/1448058172468.png We'll bang ok?
Zan Azikuchi G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance 309	Posted - 2015.11.20 23:29:00 - [44] - Quote Laggy map's = me not wanting to play laggy map = simply leave the game, whether or not the PB is lousy or not does not contribute to this, whatsoever, and completely derailed the thread (if this hasn't already been stated, it is now, #LateForTheParty) If the maps didn't lag, I'd stay more, pub stomping however, not an extreme issue by far and now, it's just a regular thing. PC getting hacked, large/small corps farming isk, once more CCP's fault for allowing it to progress this way, PC should have never been opened in the first place due to lack of suits/weapons/vehicles prior, still shouldn't be a thing now, but, too late, damage done, (and who's bright idea was it, to base every buff/nerf off of PC? That's another kind of damage done from it). PvE is the only thing that'll solve the issue's now, no new PVP game mode, no kind of "PVP FIX", just you and your boy's, vs A.I. . When there is light, shadow's lurk and fear reign's... Yet by the blade of knight's, mankind, was given hope.
SOGZ PANDA WarRavens Imperium Eden 155	Posted - 2015.11.21 00:02:00 - [45] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: What about we do ONE 256x256 match? We can put all players here and even people leave .. they join same match. I ******* love this idea. One constant battle where everyone can join/leave whenever they need to. People just fight over bases to acquire SP an...........................oh wait that's planetside 2 :\| dust is life... ... uncertain, and usually pretty dissapointing.
Kail Mako Capital Acquisitions LLC 243	Posted - 2015.11.21 07:32:00 - [46] - Quote SOGZ PANDA wrote: Jack Boost wrote: What about we do ONE 256x256 match? We can put all players here and even people leave .. they join same match. I ******* love this idea. One constant battle where everyone can join/leave whenever they need to. People just fight over bases to acquire SP an...........................oh wait that's planetside 2 :\| When do we make ISK? Also, 256x256? I know that Dust has a small pool of players, but I'd like to think that there are more mercs than that online at any given point in time. Officially recognized for advancing the science of getting bent.


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