DUST Search - Reasons to strike today and further on!

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Dalmont Legrand wrote:

Let us start from afar.

Company spends millions on Valkyrie

Company tries to modernise EVE

New space games of EVE scale are developed with more features like 1st person and multiple environments, things EVE lacks.

If CCP fails to hold EVE player base they are done, EVE has decline and lowest online since 2007

When CCP Games has new product or they are into product they will sell it in every way possible.

On the other hand, we have silence and rare DEV and GMs now, since when we have GMs so present in here?

CCP keeps quiet to milk those who still believe

If CCP would announce future of DUST for next year - those believers would be first to quit.

Last time CCP announced future of DUST for next year was two years ago

CCP keeps silent to make believers believe based on expectations and promises that are not met.

CCP will keep silent to retain the rests of the player base

Players who donated will believe to the very last until they see the contrary that is why they are against strike

Strike to make them talk

Strike to make them move

Strike to find truth and not expectations

Strike to show we want future for this product

Strike to stop spending money on dead horse

Money is money

You prefer expectations or reality?

Pity that DEVs can't really put hands on this thing. Whoever decided to plant game on ageing console is a genius with lack of forecasting. Wrong approach since beginning was a deathly hallow for the developers to try and make it work.

1) Yes, the company spent millions on Valkyrie. It also spent millions on Dust 514, Eve Online, World of Darkness, etc. Given the thread, this seems accusational of something but lacks the context as to what.

2) Yes, the company is trying to modernize Eve. Not sure what the problem is.

3) Eve has a first person feature currently in the works on SiSi. But, then again, first person and environments weren't what made Eve popular in the first place - it was the sandbox, free market player economy, etc.

4) Systematically false. "Eve is dying" stems from looking at players active at one time on things like eve-offline, same as Dust 514 (which is also fairly misleading). This graph shows the actual PCU which has been stable since August 2012.

5) Happened once. With World of Darkness. Which, White Wolf was acquired prior to the Summer of Rage and what not, so that's a very isolated case.

6) Dev silence is because they're working. GM activity is because Archduke is a cool bro.

7) False and stupid. It is well known why CCP keeps quiet: Not making promises they can't keep.

8) A wise man does not speak for the people, he empowers them to speak for themselves. Likewise, saying what the playerbase will do in the event of an announcement is a sure-fire way to look silly.

9) Year and a half ago, really.

10) Correction: CCP keeps silent to discontinue making promises that can't be met.

11) ......Wat?

12-17) This strike is turning into stockholm syndrome levels of cultishness. I'm almost willing to bet that you are (or were) going to follow up with "don't listen to the CPM, anything he says is lies, the strike is the only truth; cpm is scared of us"

18) Yes. Money is money. That is why it's called money.

19) I prefer reality. However, expectations are subjective.

*stable since 2012* LOL!!!

From what YOU posted

SMACKDOWN
numbers of 42,000 of 2012 versus todays numbers of 30,000 in 2015

Thats NOT ! stable.!!!

Thats a DROP! of 12,000!!

DONT BELIEVE HIS LIES.

People believe what they want to believe. Go do some research, look up the dev blog this came from, or god forbid take a look at the presentation during Eve: Vegas. Or you can continue to grow up, grow old, and die stupid.

It really doesn't bother me either way. There was enough information in that dev blog to prove contrary to the myth that Eve is dying. Eve has been around for longer than a decade. There aren't many games that come to mind that can say the same, let alone say that they even have 30-45k players active at the same time.

But what do I know? I'm just a raging ******* dumbass posting information directly from CCP Quant's own research.

EDIT: Here, I did the hard part for you and got the link. Give it a read or you can continue to ****** your critical thinking. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-economy-update-eve-vegas-2015-report/


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Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.11.14 15:12:00 - [1] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Dalmont Legrand wrote: Let us start from afar. Company spends millions on Valkyrie Company tries to modernise EVE New space games of EVE scale are developed with more features like 1st person and multiple environments, things EVE lacks. If CCP fails to hold EVE player base they are done, EVE has decline and lowest online since 2007 When CCP Games has new product or they are into product they will sell it in every way possible. On the other hand, we have silence and rare DEV and GMs now, since when we have GMs so present in here? CCP keeps quiet to milk those who still believe If CCP would announce future of DUST for next year - those believers would be first to quit. Last time CCP announced future of DUST for next year was two years ago CCP keeps silent to make believers believe based on expectations and promises that are not met. CCP will keep silent to retain the rests of the player base Players who donated will believe to the very last until they see the contrary that is why they are against strike Strike to make them talk Strike to make them move Strike to find truth and not expectations Strike to show we want future for this product Strike to stop spending money on dead horse Money is money You prefer expectations or reality? Pity that DEVs can't really put hands on this thing. Whoever decided to plant game on ageing console is a genius with lack of forecasting. Wrong approach since beginning was a deathly hallow for the developers to try and make it work. 1) Yes, the company spent millions on Valkyrie. It also spent millions on Dust 514, Eve Online, World of Darkness, etc. Given the thread, this seems accusational of something but lacks the context as to what. 2) Yes, the company is trying to modernize Eve. Not sure what the problem is. 3) Eve has a first person feature currently in the works on SiSi. But, then again, first person and environments weren't what made Eve popular in the first place - it was the sandbox, free market player economy, etc. 4) Systematically false. "Eve is dying" stems from looking at players active at one time on things like eve-offline, same as Dust 514 (which is also fairly misleading). This graph shows the actual PCU which has been stable since August 2012. 5) Happened once. With World of Darkness. Which, White Wolf was acquired prior to the Summer of Rage and what not, so that's a very isolated case. 6) Dev silence is because they're working. GM activity is because Archduke is a cool bro. 7) False and stupid. It is well known why CCP keeps quiet: Not making promises they can't keep. 8) A wise man does not speak for the people, he empowers them to speak for themselves. Likewise, saying what the playerbase will do in the event of an announcement is a sure-fire way to look silly. 9) Year and a half ago, really. 10) Correction: CCP keeps silent to discontinue making promises that can't be met. 11) ......Wat? 12-17) This strike is turning into stockholm syndrome levels of cultishness. I'm almost willing to bet that you are (or were) going to follow up with "don't listen to the CPM, anything he says is lies, the strike is the only truth; cpm is scared of us" 18) Yes. Money is money. That is why it's called money. 19) I prefer reality. However, expectations are subjective. stable since 2012 LOL!!! From what YOU posted SMACKDOWN numbers of 42,000 of 2012 versus todays numbers of 30,000 in 2015 Thats NOT ! stable.!!! Thats a DROP! of 12,000!! DONT BELIEVE HIS LIES.
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.11.14 22:50:00 - [2] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Dalmont Legrand wrote: Let us start from afar. Company spends millions on Valkyrie Company tries to modernise EVE New space games of EVE scale are developed with more features like 1st person and multiple environments, things EVE lacks. If CCP fails to hold EVE player base they are done, EVE has decline and lowest online since 2007 When CCP Games has new product or they are into product they will sell it in every way possible. On the other hand, we have silence and rare DEV and GMs now, since when we have GMs so present in here? CCP keeps quiet to milk those who still believe If CCP would announce future of DUST for next year - those believers would be first to quit. Last time CCP announced future of DUST for next year was two years ago CCP keeps silent to make believers believe based on expectations and promises that are not met. CCP will keep silent to retain the rests of the player base Players who donated will believe to the very last until they see the contrary that is why they are against strike Strike to make them talk Strike to make them move Strike to find truth and not expectations Strike to show we want future for this product Strike to stop spending money on dead horse Money is money You prefer expectations or reality? Pity that DEVs can't really put hands on this thing. Whoever decided to plant game on ageing console is a genius with lack of forecasting. Wrong approach since beginning was a deathly hallow for the developers to try and make it work. 1) Yes, the company spent millions on Valkyrie. It also spent millions on Dust 514, Eve Online, World of Darkness, etc. Given the thread, this seems accusational of something but lacks the context as to what. 2) Yes, the company is trying to modernize Eve. Not sure what the problem is. 3) Eve has a first person feature currently in the works on SiSi. But, then again, first person and environments weren't what made Eve popular in the first place - it was the sandbox, free market player economy, etc. 4) Systematically false. "Eve is dying" stems from looking at players active at one time on things like eve-offline, same as Dust 514 (which is also fairly misleading). This graph shows the actual PCU which has been stable since August 2012. 5) Happened once. With World of Darkness. Which, White Wolf was acquired prior to the Summer of Rage and what not, so that's a very isolated case. 6) Dev silence is because they're working. GM activity is because Archduke is a cool bro. 7) False and stupid. It is well known why CCP keeps quiet: Not making promises they can't keep. 8) A wise man does not speak for the people, he empowers them to speak for themselves. Likewise, saying what the playerbase will do in the event of an announcement is a sure-fire way to look silly. 9) Year and a half ago, really. 10) Correction: CCP keeps silent to discontinue making promises that can't be met. 11) ......Wat? 12-17) This strike is turning into stockholm syndrome levels of cultishness. I'm almost willing to bet that you are (or were) going to follow up with "don't listen to the CPM, anything he says is lies, the strike is the only truth; cpm is scared of us" 18) Yes. Money is money. That is why it's called money. 19) I prefer reality. However, expectations are subjective. stable since 2012 LOL!!! From what YOU posted SMACKDOWN numbers of 42,000 of 2012 versus todays numbers of 30,000 in 2015 Thats NOT ! stable.!!! Thats a DROP! of 12,000!! DONT BELIEVE HIS LIES. People believe what they want to believe. Go do some research, look up the dev blog this came from, or god forbid take a look at the presentation during Eve: Vegas. Or you can continue to grow up, grow old, and die stupid. It really doesn't bother me either way. There was enough information in that dev blog to prove contrary to the myth that Eve is dying. Eve has been around for longer than a decade. There aren't many games that come to mind that can say the same, let alone say that they even have 30-45k players active at the same time. But what do I know? I'm just a raging ***** dumbass posting information directly from CCP Quant's own research. EDIT: Here, I did the hard part for you and got the link. Give it a read or you can continue to **** your critical thinking. http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-economy-update-eve-vegas-2015-report/ LOL! So from your second post you have LESS Eve Online players producing MORE ISK? All that shows is that producing ISK-widget industry has been easier in 2015 versus 2012 Cause you know we saw CCP try to hide dying Dust 514 numbers by combining Dust 514 plus Eve Online numbers.