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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.15 15:46:00 -
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You guys seem to forget we're a "Sandbox" game, responsibility goes as far as you're willing.
so yes, it is his fault, just as much as everyone else as it is CCP's. But on the flip side - it's also none of our individual faults.
Lag didn't kill PC - CCP did.
PC didn't stay stagnant because of CCP though, that is completely on you guys. There's too many groups and individuals not even willing to try. And it's because of people like Cuse, Dust User, and others who've taken advantage of there position of power to hurt others.
To say we hold no reasonability because it's a game is pretty tunnel vision way of thinking.
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.15 17:11:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:I guess people aren't allowed to lose interest?
Listen, if they're not showing up, launch some attacks and take some districts.
FA hasn't had decent membership in about 3 weeks. It took you guys this long to figure it out because nobody attacked us after we whopped Rust.
I for one, just finished downloading Stanley Parable. Excited to play this thing. We are giving away districts, just not all of them
Hey, just noticed, you got promoted from a Pure Evil Pleb, grats.
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.15 17:57:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Dust User wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Dust User wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:We came back tonight a played a few PCs. Many of us were drunk and rusty but still managed to lay the smackdown on Farm Raveins. Pub matchs were super bad but PC was kind of fun. We did lose that first match though and it forced me to join opus. i told you not to make that bet on the first match. Had to shake the rust of first and remember what buttons do what.  This is so true. I don't even know how many times I pressed circle trying to reload. I blame MGS. i kept trying to pull out my sword and use the drink potions button but it just ended up throwing core nades at my team mates.
Sounds like you're as good as you've ever been.
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.15 18:11:00 -
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Quasar Storm wrote:Shepherd Grey wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Dust User wrote:
This is so true.
I don't even know how many times I pressed circle trying to reload.
I blame MGS.
i kept trying to pull out my sword and use the drink potions button but it just ended up throwing core nades at my team mates. I was trying to....kick a soccer ball with my car. Hey, someone has to take 15th place. I can't believe you're still playing that.
Why wouldn't he, it's a great game. Even has weekly tournaments for real life cash from several different communities.
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:08:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:TheD1CK wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:You guys seem to forget we're a "Sandbox" game, responsibility goes as far as you're willing.
so yes, it is his fault, just as much as everyone else as it is CCP's. But on the flip side - it's also none of our individual faults.
Lag didn't kill PC - CCP did.
PC didn't stay stagnant because of CCP though, that is completely on you guys. There's too many groups and individuals not even willing to try. And it's because of people like Cuse, Dust User, and others who've taken advantage of there position of power to hurt others.
To say we hold no reasonability because it's a game is pretty tunnel vision way of thinking. Boom! It's a sandbox.. where we make the mess for ourselves.. I have little respect for the "top" Corps as.. what impact did they really make bar their own content and profit. Since beginning PC, I have brought in hundreds of new PC players, and a list of Corps. Very few have the desire to put up with the crap that comes along with it LAG + stomps. Carebear.. gets no-one anywhere .. but being a **** isn't exactly helping either. If we want good fights, we have to make it happen.. circlejerking brings nothing but bad gameplay. It's funny to see the greed and cowardice of "top" players, their actions clearly avoid "good fights" Some may have the skillz but next to none have the mentality to deserve that status. So much truth in these statements. Hunters who don't understand the neccessity of conservation eventually starve from lack of game. And the only difference between now and 2 years ago is that now you're actually seeing the results of all the useless aggressions, undeclared alliances and general hypocritical bullshit of wannabe kingmakers. Plus the CP limits forced into place because people with the ability to limit the increasingly irreversable damage being done wouldn't. Gee, I wonder where all those players from 15 months ago went? Hurrdurrr.....
This is why I like the idea of mercs over soldiers, soldiers believe in loyalty, honor. Mercs believe in money. One has to create content to survive - the other holds land and plays farmville.
Groups like KEQ who've thrown around the term 'corp hoppers' are part of the problem. Trying to insert there idea of what this game is rather then the reality of what we are. Alliances are a means to use others to get more or secure what you have. To grow, to create more content.
Imperfects, AE, TP, they were groups who understood this, and that's why I stood firmly by them, even when they made terrible calls. Because without them, without them ticking, there was no content being made, because the rest of you are soldiers, not mercenaries.
FA is close, but they're not really content makers more then friends with rights.
n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ I watch anime for the plot
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.15 23:57:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:TheD1CK wrote:SoTa PoP wrote:You guys seem to forget we're a "Sandbox" game, responsibility goes as far as you're willing.
so yes, it is his fault, just as much as everyone else as it is CCP's. But on the flip side - it's also none of our individual faults.
Lag didn't kill PC - CCP did.
PC didn't stay stagnant because of CCP though, that is completely on you guys. There's too many groups and individuals not even willing to try. And it's because of people like Cuse, Dust User, and others who've taken advantage of there position of power to hurt others.
To say we hold no reasonability because it's a game is pretty tunnel vision way of thinking. Boom! It's a sandbox.. where we make the mess for ourselves.. I have little respect for the "top" Corps as.. what impact did they really make bar their own content and profit. Since beginning PC, I have brought in hundreds of new PC players, and a list of Corps. Very few have the desire to put up with the crap that comes along with it LAG + stomps. Carebear.. gets no-one anywhere .. but being a **** isn't exactly helping either. If we want good fights, we have to make it happen.. circlejerking brings nothing but bad gameplay. It's funny to see the greed and cowardice of "top" players, their actions clearly avoid "good fights" Some may have the skillz but next to none have the mentality to deserve that status. So much truth in these statements. Hunters who don't understand the neccessity of conservation eventually starve from lack of game. And the only difference between now and 2 years ago is that now you're actually seeing the results of all the useless aggressions, undeclared alliances and general hypocritical bullshit of wannabe kingmakers. Plus the CP limits forced into place because people with the ability to limit the increasingly irreversable damage being done wouldn't. Gee, I wonder where all those players from 15 months ago went? Hurrdurrr..... This is why I like the idea of mercs over soldiers, soldiers believe in loyalty, honor. Mercs believe in money. One has to create content to survive - the other holds land and plays farmville. Groups like KEQ who've thrown around the term 'corp hoppers' are part of the problem. Trying to insert there idea of what this game is rather then the reality of what we are. Alliances are a means to use others to get more or secure what you have. To grow, to create more content. Imperfects, AE, TP, they were groups who understood this, and that's why I stood firmly by them, even when they made terrible calls. Because without them, without them ticking, there was no content being made, because the rest of you are soldiers, not mercenaries. FA is close, but they're not really content makers more then friends with rights. You can try to break it up like that (mercs vs soldiers) but it really doesn't matter. Either/or will behave wastefully when focusing less on fighting and more on passively profiteering. And this is just compounded when individuals feel they possess some inherent justification for being abusive. If consideration isn't made past the most immediate circumstances then the long term results reflect the short term thinking. And all the hindsight whitewashing in the world won't change the facts.
Just... one question.
How do mercs, who rely on content making, use passive profiteering?
That's sorta the entire issue with the soldier types.
and while I am advocating that the mindset around here is detrimental, this is still a game, it's survival shouldn't depend on long term thinking, those sort of issue start landing more in mechanic issues.
The issues I'm talking about is perspective. It changes everything, and right now with the lack of people from Pubs wanting to PC, there's no cure anymore for getting more people in, this game has no player base.
If people actually thought this game worthwhile, we'd see new people every once in a while here in the War Room, a place made to talk ****, and really meet people who want to fight and be competitive. But no one ever comes.
instead we get GD peasants willing to throw complaints but not commitment.
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2015.11.16 00:15:00 -
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Milita Mable wrote:Or we get players who only praise about how the game was better 2 years ago.
Don't worry, Cobra was always bad.  
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SoTa PoP
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.16 01:32:00 -
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Milita Mable wrote:You mean "is" always bad.
You'd know best 
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