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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.11.09 16:38:00 -
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I know there's a bug allowing the Augmented Ammunition system to be upgraded past it's maximum useable level (Lv. 4 for 5% damage bonus).
Are there any similar bugs on other warbarge systems? Will upgrading to Lv. 5 on the mobile factory actually give 600 components per day? What are the max USEABLE levels for each system?
Any feedback appreciated...especially trolling, b/c I both admire and practice it myself ;)
PS: Their are know speling or grammastical errors in this post.
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:05:00 -
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The current maximum Warbarge level is 8, ever since Warlords 1.2:
* Maximum Warbarge level is now 8.
As such, technically any subsystem could be upgraded till level 8.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
785
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:18:00 -
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Thank you for the quick feedback! o7
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:50:00 -
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Wait I'm lost.
I though you could upgrade warbarge up to 6 and each subsystem to 5.
I don't recall reading that both were bumped to 8.
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.09 17:51:00 -
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Well, check the link I posted.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:08:00 -
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Please gm archduke, tell us they will fill those subsystems with something in 1.3 please.
Regressed to blueberry level.
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:19:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:
Are there any similar bugs on other warbarge systems? Will upgrading to Lv. 5 on the mobile factory actually give 600 components per day?
I can personally confirm that it does
And its pretty reasonable to assume that the others work as advertised too at high levels, simply because it would quickly become obvious to anyone with the upgrades that they weren't getting the right amount of stuff and be simple to check
The 5% capped damage bonus bug on the other hand I'm surprised was noticed at all |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:20:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Well, check the link I posted.
But will they work as intended? For example, the ammo augmentation doesn't work past 5%. Any other levels not applying their bonuses past a certain limit?
Scouts United
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.09 18:50:00 -
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Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Francisco Walker
Molon Labe.
RUST415
18
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:03:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:
The 5% capped damage bonus bug on the other hand I'm surprised was noticed at all
Is there any easy way to check it? At 5% it works like an enhance light damage mod, but it is hard to notice it in game.
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nosa skamrosa
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:13:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:37:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Well, check the link I posted.
Nope, don't see anything warbarge related in there. 
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:38:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
18???!!! That's a lot 
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:40:00 -
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There is no ingame notification telling that there is no subsystem past Experimental Laboratory, and players can pay components for unlocking it. Will we see this subsystem soon or can we count for refund for wasted components?
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:44:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:There is no ingame notification telling that there is no subsystem past Experimental Laboratory, and players can pay components for unlocking it. Will we see this subsystem soon or can we count for refund for wasted components?
Soon.Gäó
No.Gäó
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GM Archduke
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.09 20:13:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Well, check the link I posted. Nope, don't see anything warbarge related in there.
CTRL+F Warbarge. It's that one line that I posted as link. It's under GAMEPLAY, like so:
GAMEPLAY
* Daily Missions now grant a specified amount of Command Points. These Command Points are automatically contributed to player corporations and can be spent on Planetary Conquest activities such as:
- Selling Clones.
- Moving Clones.
- Using Clone Packs to attack Districts.
- Changing Reinforcement Timers.
- Changing District Surface Infrastructures.
* Maximum Warbarge level is now 8.
Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:There is no ingame notification telling that there is no subsystem past Experimental Laboratory, and players can pay components for unlocking it. Will we see this subsystem soon or can we count for refund for wasted components?
You cannot spend componentssubsystems that are not in game. What you technically spend your Warbarge Components on is leveling the Warbarge itself. Level 6-7-8 Warbarge can be purchased and have no new Subsystems. But upgrading your Warbarge above level 5 also allows you to upgrade existing subsystems above level 5 - so the components are not just wasted. If you're not happy with only upgrading the Warbarge itself and not getting a new subsystem, you can send us a ticket, we can reset your Warbarge and refund the components. New subsystems may be added in the future though.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.09 20:44:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Well, check the link I posted. Nope, don't see anything warbarge related in there. CTRL+F Warbarge. It's that one line that I posted as link. It's under GAMEPLAY, like so: GAMEPLAY * Daily Missions now grant a specified amount of Command Points. These Command Points are automatically contributed to player corporations and can be spent on Planetary Conquest activities such as: - Selling Clones. - Moving Clones. - Using Clone Packs to attack Districts. - Changing Reinforcement Timers. - Changing District Surface Infrastructures. * Maximum Warbarge level is now 8. Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:There is no ingame notification telling that there is no subsystem past Experimental Laboratory, and players can pay components for unlocking it. Will we see this subsystem soon or can we count for refund for wasted components? You cannot spend componentssubsystems that are not in game. What you technically spend your Warbarge Components on is leveling the Warbarge itself. Level 6-7-8 Warbarge can be purchased and have no new Subsystems. But upgrading your Warbarge above level 5 also allows you to upgrade existing subsystems above level 5 - so the components are not just wasted. If you're not happy with only upgrading the Warbarge itself and not getting a new subsystem, you can send us a ticket, we can reset your Warbarge and refund the components. New subsystems may be added in the future though.
I see it now. Either my mind is playing with me, I missed it, or you did magic, I didn't see it before.
Btw, what eve time are you on?
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.11.10 01:24:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
Thanks for testing that out and letting the players know. Important stuff.
Now I'd like to have a final clarification if the damage bonus past +5% is working or not.
I remember seeing a rumor by a very reputable source, but it's still just a rumor AFAIK.
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nosa skamrosa
Academy Inferno
E-R-A
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Posted - 2015.11.10 08:07:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
What bonus damage on level 8?
what is the maximum bonus damage now? |
Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.11.10 10:09:00 -
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Id like to know the bonus of a level 8 Augmented Ammo facility please. Am I allowed to know this information as a customer or nah?
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Jadek Menaheim
1nner.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.11.10 11:00:00 -
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Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:Id like to know the bonus of a level 8 Augmented Ammo facility please. Am I allowed to know this information as a customer or nah?
That would be 10% damage to your primary if you got it to level 8.
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dzizur
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.10 11:01:00 -
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@Kerosini
Here's the link, don't know how much of a confirmation this is , but hope it helps.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3009424#post3009424 |
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GM Archduke
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C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.10 17:28:00 -
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nosa skamrosa wrote:GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example. 1. What bonus damage on level 8? 2. What is the maximum bonus damage is now available?
The Augmented Ammunition Facility is providing a 9% damage bonus on level 8.
I cannot comment on whether this is working as intended at the moment.
GM Archduke
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
680
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Posted - 2015.11.10 18:34:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:
The Augmented Ammunition Facility is providing a 9% damage bonus on level 8.
I cannot comment on whether this is working as intended at the moment.
Hope no !!!
2x Complex light modify damages... 12.5%
Level 5 profency - 15%
Commando bonuses - 10%
Total "bonus" apply.... 37.5%
Experimental Assault Rifle damage: 38.52
Total damage... 52.77 EACH ROUND !!!!... x 77 rounds each clip... a bit total of 4063HP ... damage....
Oooh no !! please !!! this is a really "Pay to win" feature...
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.10 18:44:00 -
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To clarify - the 9% damage bonus is the intended bonus from the level 8 subsystem. What I cannot currently comment on is if it is actually giving the bonus as intended at the moment - there's that thing where it may be capped at 5% at the moment.
And no, not pay to win. This subsystem - like any other - can be upgraded to max level without spending any real money on the game. Also, +damage =/= win. It can be a big advantage, sure.
GM Archduke
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Aidualc
LATINOS KILLERS CORP
RUST415
681
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Posted - 2015.11.10 18:51:00 -
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Thanks for the answer, I know that is not a "pay to win" as the definition... but if you invest some real money to spend it in warbage components you will get a lot of advantage vs people doesn't do and have to wait to get warbarge in battles or the factory.
But for the newbies ... this will be a very frustrating... why not the warbarge advantage could be applied only in specific battles ? (PC / FW) and not in publics ?
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Cesar Geronimo
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.11.10 21:43:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
Let me play around with that test character for a few nights -- There's about 500 players I need to get revenge against...
So please do whatever you need to and transfer it to my account... |
Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.11.10 23:21:00 -
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come on archduke some of these upgrades equate to months and months of playing, people have done the maths and all the upgrades are FAR beyond how long Sony will support the PS3 for.
it's a bit like saying "hey you don't have to spend money on a taxi, you could totally walk 1000 miles".
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2015.11.11 00:42:00 -
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lvl5-lvl6 91,000 WB Components
lvl6-lvl7?
lvl7-lvl8?
Would it even be possible to have a maxed out WB before the game reaches it's already announced demise? Without the use of $1000s for AURUM?
Why even put something in the game that's unobtainable, even when's it's partially complete?
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.11.11 01:53:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:To clarify - the 9% damage bonus... level 8 subsystem.
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And no, not pay to win. This subsystem - like any other - can be upgraded to max level without spending any real money on the game. Also, +damage =/= win. It can be a big advantage, sure.
(that is heavily debatable. It is actually the only thing in dust that can be legitly accused of being P2W. But, that is off topic for this conversation)
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2015.11.11 02:13:00 -
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Thanks, forgot that we got that good confirmation.
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Banjo Robertson
Random Gunz
Rise Of Legion.
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Posted - 2015.11.11 02:51:00 -
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Aidualc wrote:GM Archduke wrote:
The Augmented Ammunition Facility is providing a 9% damage bonus on level 8.
I cannot comment on whether this is working as intended at the moment.
Hope no !!! EDIT: reason (not include the warbarge %) 2x Complex light modify damages... 12.5% Warbarge 8% Level 5 profency - 15% Commando bonuses - 10% Total "bonus" apply.... 45.5% Experimental Assault Rifle damage: 38.52 Total damage... 55.8 EACH ROUND !!!!... x 77 rounds each clip... a bit total of 4298HP ... damage.... Oooh no !! please !!! this is a really "Pay to win" feature...
45.5% plus hybrid blaster bonus against shields.
only 30.5% bonus dmg against armor, minus the dmg penalty from hybrid-blaster |
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.11 21:03:00 -
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8213 wrote:Would it even be possible to have a maxed out WB before the game reaches it's already announced demise? Without the use of $1000s for AURUM?
The what now? Announced? Where did you hear or see that?
I'm not debating the time/warbarge component/money thing. I know exactly how many components a character needs to get there, and how freaking long that could take. I'm not saying it would be easy or even sane to do it, all I'm saying is that it is possible.
That announcement does sound interesting though, please link that here if possible 
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Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.11 21:06:00 -
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technically? which of those subsystems are broken>?
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Lightning35 Delta514
The Warlords Legion
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Posted - 2015.11.11 21:07:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:Would it even be possible to have a maxed out WB before the game reaches it's already announced demise? Without the use of $1000s for AURUM? The what now? Announced? Where did you hear or see that? I'm not debating the time/warbarge component/money thing. I know exactly how many components a character needs to get there, and how freaking long that could take. I'm not saying it would be easy or even sane to do it, all I'm saying is that it is possible. That announcement does sound interesting though, please link that here if possible
good old archduke
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.11 22:03:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:technically? which of those subsystems are broken>?
Didn't say any of them were, and I also mentioned that I tried and verified the level 8s on all Subsystems on a test character.
GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
GM Archduke
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MrShooter01
Ustio Mercenary Squadron
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Posted - 2015.11.11 22:14:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:I'm not debating the time/warbarge component/money thing. I know exactly how many components a character needs to get there, and how freaking long that could take. I'm not saying it would be easy or even sane to do it, all I'm saying is that it is possible.
If its not too much trouble or locked behind a "the players must discover these game mechanics themselves" policy, as I know some things are
Could you post the number of components required (and the cooldown after) to upgrade WB systems past level 5?
What I loosely remember so far, because I made the mistake of not writing this **** down while I was upgrading:
Level 1: 300ish (a few hours)
Level 2: 2500ish (under a day)
Level 3: 10k ish (a few days)
Level 4: 25k ish (a few weeks?)
Level 5: 50k ish (unknown)
Level 6: ???
Level 7: ???
Level 8: ???
Warbarge itself: per-level costs and cooldowns much lower than subsystems, to level 6 is a little under 10k components |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
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Posted - 2015.11.11 22:28:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:technically? which of those subsystems are broken>? Didn't say any of them were, and I also mentioned that I tried and verified the level 8s on all Subsystems on a test character. GM Archduke wrote:Yes, they are working as intended, I verified on a test character. All subsystems upgraded to level 8, the produced and stored maximum climbing up as they should. Claimed 18 experimental weapons from the level 8 Experimental Laboratory for example.
so u can confirm the ammo facility works at max level then?
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.12 01:17:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:so u can confirm the ammo facility works at max level then?
That's been discussed earlier in this thread:
GM Archduke wrote:To clarify - the 9% damage bonus is the intended bonus from the level 8 subsystem. What I cannot currently comment on is if it is actually giving the bonus as intended at the moment - there's that thing where it may be capped at 5% at the moment.
As in, I upgraded the Subsystem to level 8 on the test character, and I can see on the Warbarge UI that it says 9% damage bonus. I cannot comment on whether this is accurately coded and currently functioning as intended, or if it's instead only giving a 5% damage bonus in game.
I'll try to remember to clarify this with Shanghai the next time I'm on shift, but I'm usually quite busy, and tend to forget about the Forums at work.
GM Archduke
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.12 01:22:00 -
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MrShooter01 wrote:If its not too much trouble or locked behind a "the players must discover these game mechanics themselves" policy, as I know some things are
Could you post the number of components required (and the cooldown after) to upgrade WB systems past level 5?
What I loosely remember so far, because I made the mistake of not writing this **** down while I was upgrading:
Level 1: 300ish (a few hours)
Level 2: 2500ish (under a day)
Level 3: 10k ish (a few days)
Level 4: 25k ish (a few weeks?)
Level 5: 50k ish (unknown)
Level 6: ???
Level 7: ???
Level 8: ???
Warbarge itself: per-level costs and cooldowns much lower than subsystems, to level 6 is a little under 10k components
I'm quite positive that all this is not a 'secret', but I can't remember seeing any raw data on this that I could just copy-paste. I'll see what I can do about this if I don't forget.
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2015.11.12 01:57:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:Would it even be possible to have a maxed out WB before the game reaches it's already announced demise? Without the use of $1000s for AURUM? The what now? Announced? Where did you hear or see that? I'm not debating the time/warbarge component/money thing. I know exactly how many components a character needs to get there, and how freaking long that could take. I'm not saying it would be easy or even sane to do it, all I'm saying is that it is possible. That announcement does sound interesting though, please link that here if possible
You mean where CCP announced quite infamously that they were no longer going to continue forward and give updates to DUST and new game called Legion was greenlit...
Unless, that just didn't happen. In that case, you should be running for public office. Because your spinning and lying are on par with that of a politician.
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.12 02:21:00 -
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8213 wrote:You mean where CCP announced quite infamously that they were no longer going to continue forward and give updates to DUST and new game called Legion was greenlit...
Unless, that just didn't happen. In that case, you should be running for public office. Because your spinning and lying are on par with that of a politician.
Umm...lol. I'll respond to this when I get back in the office tomorrow. Archduke needs some sleeps.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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8213
Blauhelme
E.B.O.L.A.
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Posted - 2015.11.12 05:23:00 -
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Meh, don't bother.
I can only read so much of your bulsh!t...
You're not going to convince me. I've dealt with community managers my whole gaming life. I know what you guys are paid to do.
I've played this game longer, and more than you. I've been gaming longer, and more than you.
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
Audacity of wanting improvement
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Richard Gamerich-R
WarRavens
Imperium Eden
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Posted - 2015.11.12 05:33:00 -
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I've played this game longer, and more than you 8213, so now shut up.
Wait... I restock.
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.12 10:02:00 -
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8213 wrote:Meh, don't bother.
You're not going to convince me. I've dealt with community managers my whole gaming life. I know what you guys are paid to do.
I've played this game longer, and more than you. I've been gaming longer, and more than you.
I know I won't convince you, I've talked to you before, and seen you ignore all possibilities in order to arrive at a preconceived conclusion that supports your emotional state at the time. I'm not delusional. But I'll still explain - a bit later - because you're just plain wrong.
2 more things:
- what do you base the theory on that you've been a gamer longer than me?
- please watch the personal attacks and language, you're getting into bannable territory
GM Archduke
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GM Archduke
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Posted - 2015.11.12 11:03:00 -
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8213 wrote:You mean where CCP announced quite infamously that they were no longer going to continue forward and give updates to DUST and new game called Legion was greenlit...
Unless, that just didn't happen. In that case, you should be running for public office. Because your spinning and lying are on par with that of a politician.
First of all, please listen to CCP Rouge carefully in the Fanfest 2014 - DUST 514 Keynote - he never said anything about not having further updates for DUST 514.
In this additional FanFest Announcement Rouge also specifically stated that Legion was not greenlit at the time, and that we will continue having updates for DUST 514.
Please also see these Forum posts answering DUST 514 and Project Legion concerns:
If Project Legion becomes something more than a prototype, we will not leave our DUST 514 players behind.
I want to address the concerns about character migration from DUST 514 to Project Legion if it goes ahead.
And there's this /incomplete/ list of stuff that we actually did since that announcement:
Warlords 1.0 Overview & Patch Notes
Warlords 1.1 Overview & Patch Notes
Warlords 1.2 Overview & Patch Notes
Introducing Warlords 1.2 Planetary Conquest Revamp
Introducing Warlords 1.2 Progression System
[Feedback] Hotfix FoxFour
DUST 514 Development Roadmap
These are facts, man. Nothing you said just there is correct.
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i see you have your own corp and Alliance
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Oh, my bad.
I guess there is an entirely different reason all my old friends, and corps haven't played the game in a year.
Or, an entirely different reason the game's own CPMs discontinued play. An entirely different reason that players end up bitter like me.
I hope you figure out what that cause is, because although it may not look like it I'm sure you'd love to be a Community Manager of a successful and/or popular game.
I really can't remember my total hours on this game. Perhaps you have more. I'm not going to measure straws.
You claim to help players, but yet have refused to listen to feedback that was critical to the game, by players, reviews, and publications.
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:You mean where CCP announced quite infamously that they were no longer going to continue forward and give updates to DUST and new game called Legion was greenlit...
Unless, that just didn't happen. In that case, you should be running for public office. Because your spinning and lying are on par with that of a politician. Umm...lol. I'll respond to this when I get back in the office tomorrow. Archduke needs some sleeps.
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8213 wrote:Oh, my bad.
I guess there is an entirely different reason all my old friends, and corps haven't played the game in a year.
Or, an entirely different reason the game's own CPMs discontinued play. An entirely different reason that players end up bitter like me.
I hope you figure out what that cause is, because although it may not look like it I'm sure you'd love to be a Community Manager of a successful and/or popular game.
I really can't remember my total hours on this game. Perhaps you have more. I'm not going to measure straws.
You claim to help players, but yet have refused to listen to feedback that was critical to the game, by players, reviews, and publications.
I've seen this exact same strategy from you in a different thread - when proven wrong with stone-cold facts, just slightly modify the subject.
Yes, many players stopped playing. Doesn't change the fact that we never announced an end to DUST 514, never said we would stop updates, and the fact that we're actually continuously releasing updates. Facts. So, since you cannot argue with them, you change your argument. Well, sure, go ahead, but you were still plain wrong.
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8213
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Posted - 2015.11.12 17:32:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:8213 wrote:Oh, my bad.
I guess there is an entirely different reason all my old friends, and corps haven't played the game in a year.
Or, an entirely different reason the game's own CPMs discontinued play. An entirely different reason that players end up bitter like me.
I hope you figure out what that cause is, because although it may not look like it I'm sure you'd love to be a Community Manager of a successful and/or popular game.
I really can't remember my total hours on this game. Perhaps you have more. I'm not going to measure straws.
You claim to help players, but yet have refused to listen to feedback that was critical to the game, by players, reviews, and publications. I've seen this exact same strategy from you in a different thread - when proven wrong with stone-cold facts, just slightly modify the subject. Yes, many players stopped playing. Doesn't change the fact that we never announced an end to DUST 514, never said we would stop updates, and the fact that we're actually continuously releasing updates. Facts. So, since you cannot argue with them, you change your argument. Well, sure, go ahead, but you were still plain wrong.
I watched the keynote and Rouge Wedding many of times. I've done my best to keep up with Legion. My personal opinion is that Legion will fail and never make it to release (unless of course it gets pushed like DUST did, which ended in failure).
Did he say DUST would carry over? Yes. Did he specify, of course not. But since DUST is "Laser focused" on the PS3 (unless you guys lie about that one too), you are having people spend time and money on console and game that will be obsolete.
I believe the main point of this back-n-forth was "Why put something in the game that unobtainable?" Which, as usual, you didn't answer.
The "Facts" you presented were people talking in generalities and speculation. Since when does CCP ever tell people something straight forward?
Hope to here back from you SOON (get it? "Soon" as in the phrase you stopped using because people called you out on the bullsh!t that went with it. I'm a clever one at times)
In all honestly, I'd love a round-table and discussion with devs. But you see, to only surround yourself with kool-aid sippers and fanboys that never push the real topics and try to get solid answers. I guess I have a place
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
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8213 wrote:I believe the main point of this back-n-forth was "Why put something in the game that unobtainable?" Which, as usual, you didn't answer.
Original:
8213 wrote:Why even put something in the game that's unobtainable, even when's it's partially complete?
UPRISING - incomplete
WARBARGE - Incomplete
DUST 514 - Incomplete
I did answer that question, you chose not to understand the answer.
The simple answer is - Warbarge /and separate Subsystems/ levels 6-7-8 are not unobtainable, as we're continuously working on DUST 514 and releasing updates. Nobody says the game is coming to an end except you. Twist this any way you want, I don't have any more time to waste on discussing this moot point.
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GM Archduke wrote:As in, I upgraded the Subsystem to level 8 on the test character, and I can see on the Warbarge UI that it says 9% damage bonus. I cannot comment on whether this is accurately coded and currently functioning as intended, or if it's instead only giving a 5% damage bonus in game.
I'll try to remember to clarify this with Shanghai the next time I'm on shift, but I'm usually quite busy, and tend to forget about the Forums at work.
GM Archduke wrote:MrShooter01 wrote:If its not too much trouble or locked behind a "the players must discover these game mechanics themselves" policy, as I know some things are
Could you post the number of components required (and the cooldown after) to upgrade WB systems past level 5?
What I loosely remember so far, because I made the mistake of not writing this **** down while I was upgrading:
Level 1: 300ish (a few hours)
Level 2: 2500ish (under a day)
Level 3: 10k ish (a few days)
Level 4: 25k ish (a few weeks?)
Level 5: 50k ish (unknown)
Level 6: ???
Level 7: ???
Level 8: ???
Warbarge itself: per-level costs and cooldowns much lower than subsystems, to level 6 is a little under 10k components I'm quite positive that all this is not a 'secret', but I can't remember seeing any raw data on this that I could just copy-paste. I'll see what I can do about this if I don't forget.
You know me Archduke. I love numbers, as you know from some of my past tickets. I won't let you forget. 
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8213
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GM Archduke wrote:
Nobody says the game is coming to an end except you.
Sorry, but that's just plain hilarious...
I know WB Levels 6,7,through to 8 are not obtainable. So, Why put it in the game then? Are there plans to have it go even higher? Would it mathematically be possible to obtain those higher levels with 10-15 years? Or, as that question for the dev team?
Maybe all this is just me ranting and pointing out another moronic game implement that (almost) NOBODY asked for.
Never thank me for ISK, never call me a legend, and always send your 'gg' to CCP.
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8213 wrote:I know WB Levels 6,7,through to 8 are not obtainable. So, Why put it in the game then?
That is plain wrong again. Why can't you understand when you're wrong? It's funny actually. I've seen players actually having level 8 Warbarges. Closing.
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